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Post by millar70 on Apr 19, 2021 19:53:07 GMT
So about 2 weeks into the season, and let's look at the American League standings thus far......
Red Sox leading the East? Surprising for sure, but it's the Red Sox. They do this stuff somewhat regularly over the years.
Royals leading the Central? Alright, well this is pretty unexpected.
Mariners leading the West? Now, that's just goofy, isn't it?
Yankees with the worst record? Pinch me, I'm dreaming.....
Pretty wild stuff, thus far. My question for you all is does any of this last through the whole season? I'm hopeful of my Red Sox, but what about KC and Seattle, does the fun last?
And speaking of fun and last, I saw that Aaron Boone was seen this morning at a Bronx Home Depot buying three cases of lightbulbs. Why?
Cuz it's pretty dark in the cellar. 😂😂😂👍👍👍
Thanks, I'll be here all year!
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 19, 2021 20:01:29 GMT
Pretty wild stuff, thus far. My question for you all is does any of this last through the whole season? I'm hopeful of my Red Sox, but what about KC and Seattle, does the fun last? The Royals are playing above their heads, but it won't last. The White Sox, Twins and Indians all have better run differentials which suggests that the Royals have been a little lucky, and they've also received scalding hot play from unlikely sources like perennial 4th outfielder, Michael Taylor. Over the course of a season, that'll catch up to them. The Mariners actually have a negative run differential, so they are lucky, pure and simple. Oakland has won 8 in a row after a disgusting start, Houston has had injuries and a COVID outbreak and the Angels have been playing well. Seattle will be in 4th place by the end of the month.
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Post by millar70 on Apr 19, 2021 20:10:11 GMT
Pretty wild stuff, thus far. My question for you all is does any of this last through the whole season? I'm hopeful of my Red Sox, but what about KC and Seattle, does the fun last? The Royals are playing above their heads, but it won't last. The White Sox, Twins and Indians all have better run differentials which suggests that the Royals have been a little lucky, and they've also received scalding hot play from unlikely sources like perennial 4th outfielder, Michael Taylor. Over the course of a season, that'll catch up to them. The Mariners actually have a negative run differential, so they are lucky, pure and simple. Oakland has won 8 in a row after a disgusting start, Houston has had injuries and a COVID outbreak and the Angels have been playing well. Seattle will be in 4th place by the end of the month. Listen to Debbie Downer over here, talking about run differential and all that. Don't be a dream killer! I am now officially rooting for Seattle to have a +1 run differential and still win the division. Go Mariners!!! Run differential? 😒
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 19, 2021 20:11:02 GMT
The Royals are playing above their heads, but it won't last. The White Sox, Twins and Indians all have better run differentials which suggests that the Royals have been a little lucky, and they've also received scalding hot play from unlikely sources like perennial 4th outfielder, Michael Taylor. Over the course of a season, that'll catch up to them. The Mariners actually have a negative run differential, so they are lucky, pure and simple. Oakland has won 8 in a row after a disgusting start, Houston has had injuries and a COVID outbreak and the Angels have been playing well. Seattle will be in 4th place by the end of the month. Listen to Debbie Downer over here, talking about run differential and all that. Don't be a dream killer! I am now officially rooting for Seattle to have a +1 run differential and still win the division. Go Mariners!!! Run differential? 😒 I mean, their team also sucks so there's that, but the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes so it explains their decent start.
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Post by millar70 on Apr 19, 2021 20:14:07 GMT
Listen to Debbie Downer over here, talking about run differential and all that. Don't be a dream killer! I am now officially rooting for Seattle to have a +1 run differential and still win the division. Go Mariners!!! Run differential? 😒 I mean, their team also sucks so there's that, but the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes so it explains their decent start. You just focus on your beloved Mets. Should be a fun filled year in Queens, yes?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 19, 2021 20:20:59 GMT
I mean, their team also sucks so there's that, but the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes so it explains their decent start. You just focus on your beloved Mets. Should be a fun filled year in Queens, yes? I think so, they've been winning series in the early going in spite of getting virtually nothing from the offense. I'll take it.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 19, 2021 20:29:17 GMT
Can anyone tell me why the Yankees are #9 in SI Power rankings and the Red Sox are #11? I know this stuff is pure twaddle but Good God...
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Post by millar70 on Apr 19, 2021 21:00:58 GMT
Can anyone tell me why the Yankees are #9 in SI Power rankings and the Red Sox are #11? I know this stuff is pure twaddle but Good God... Because many people who work in media are lazy fucks who pay very little attention to what they are actually supposed to pay attention to.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 19, 2021 21:08:16 GMT
Can anyone tell me why the Yankees are #9 in SI Power rankings and the Red Sox are #11? I know this stuff is pure twaddle but Good God... This board needs the Dystryx power rankings, ASAP.
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Post by Rufus-T on Apr 20, 2021 1:37:13 GMT
June 4th
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Post by Xeliou66 on Apr 20, 2021 2:12:44 GMT
The AL East and AL Central are wide open IMO - I think that every team except the O’s are good in the AL East, I think the Yankees will get back on track and improve, the Rays are good and still somewhat underrated, the Jays are decent and the Sox have been more impressive than I expected so far. I have no idea what to make of the AL Central, I could see the Royals staying in front actually, I’m not sold on any of the teams in that division, I think the Twins or White Sox are probably the most talented, but who knows, I could see anyone except the Tigers winning that division.
No way the Mariners stay atop the AL West, they are weak, the Astros will start playing better soon, the A’s are playing better after a bad start and the Angels are solid, the M’s will fall back soon.
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Post by tristramshandy on Apr 20, 2021 2:35:04 GMT
Yankees have five guys with at least 34 at bats plus Odor batting less than .200 and three of the five starters with ERAs over 6.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 3:27:03 GMT
Yankees with the worst record? Pinch me, I'm dreaming..... Pretty wild stuff, thus far. My question for you all is does any of this last through the whole season? I'm hopeful of my Red Sox, but what about KC and Seattle, does the fun last? And speaking of fun and last, I saw that Aaron Boone was seen this morning at a Bronx Home Depot buying three cases of lightbulbs. Why? Cuz it's pretty dark in the cellar. 😂😂😂👍👍👍 I will not pinch you and let's hope you have a long long (through the season) slumber! Yuck the Fankees!!! Crazy start so far. Whatever happens I'm just glad it's happening!
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Post by _ on Apr 20, 2021 16:36:05 GMT
For some reason, I thought this thread would be about the first few seasons of the AL 
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Post by _ on Apr 20, 2021 16:46:03 GMT
Five Who Did: The Founding of the American League by Five Irish-American Milwaukeeans Published 2017 Guest Bloggers, Brian Witt & Bob Buege
For well over a century, major league baseball has comprised two leagues, the National League and the American League. The junior circuit was formed at a clandestine meeting in room 185 in Milwaukee’s Republican Hotel (aka Republican House) on the evening of March 5, 1900. A historical marker commemorates the site at which that once-grand hotel stood, near the corner of what is now Old World Third Street and Kilbourn Avenue.
The five men most responsible for the creation of the second league met secretly in the Republican Hotel to escape the prying eyes and ears of Chicago newspaper reporters. The establishment of the new league, with a rival club in Chicago, challenged Chicago’s National League monopoly and represented a declaration of baseball war.
The originators of the American League included two men whose names have remained prominent in baseball circles, Connie Mack and Charles Comiskey, who both became team owners. The other three were league president Ban Johnson and a pair of Milwaukee lawyers, Henry Killilea and his brother Matthew, previously the owners of Milwaukee’s team in the Western League.
The unseen person was Timothy “Ted” Sullivan, a native of County Clare, and long-time resident of Milwaukee.
Most people do not know that the American League was founded and incorporated in Milwaukee. The fact that four of them were Irish-Americans, as well as the man who initially brought them all together, Ted Sullivan, is even less well-known.
One of the new American League franchises belonged to the Milwaukee Brewers. The Brewers played their home games in 1900 in Milwaukee Park, a ramshackle wooden structure located between 16th and 17th Streets, with North Avenue on the north and Lloyd Street on the south. The street name gave the park the moniker by which it was commonly known, the Lloyd Street Grounds.
The American League in 1900 was still considered a minor league. The following year it replaced several clubs with larger eastern cities and became baseball’s second major league. The Milwaukee franchise was summarily transferred to St. Louis after the 1901 season and became the Browns. Milwaukee did not return to major league status until Lou Perini relocated his Boston Braves to County Stadium in 1953 and became the Milwaukee Braves.
The Killelea brothers were born to Irish emigrant parents in Winnebago County. Both were outstanding athletes, and, after their graduation from college, they played semi-pro baseball together, with Matt pitching and Henry catching. Both brothers were lawyers, and both were active in the Democratic politics in Milwaukee and Wisconsin.
Henry had also been an accomplished football player at University of Michigan, playing both quarterback and punter. In the 1890’s, they purchased the Milwaukee Brewers of the minor league Western League.
The Western League had a history of folding and coming back to life. In one iteration, Ted Sullivan brought the league back into existence, as well as resurrecting the Milwaukee Brewers name. Both the league and the team were taken away from him, for flooding the field so as not to play a home game against a stronger team.
In an even earlier time, Sullivan brought his protégé, and brother-in-law, Charles Comiskey, originally from Chicago, to play for Ted’s Milwaukee Alerts. Comiskey lived in Milwaukee off and on for about decade.
In the 1890’s, the Killeleas brought a well-respected manager and player on board to manage the minor league Brewers, Cornelius McGillicuddy, better known as Connie Mack. Mack had managed the Pittsburgh Pirates, and had also played for the team, a common theme at the time in baseball. Mack would manage the team from its min or league status until it entered the American league. He lived in the area for a number of years, as he also had an ownership stake in the Brewers.
In 1894, Comiskey was managing the Cincinnati Reds when he met Cincinnati sportswriter Ban Johnson. The two of them decided to buy the Western League, with Johnson to become president. The idea was to take it to major league status, as the only major league was the National League.
When the quintet of Johnson, Comiskey, Matt and Henry Killelea and Mack met at the Roosevelt Hotel on 3rd and Kilbourn in 1900, it was done in secret, because many of the Western League teams had minor league contracts with the National League. One of the first things done was that the league was named the American League, to keep with the patriotic theme.
Johnson also instituted a number of rules, including no swearing on the field, as he felt the Nationals were crude and vulgar, and he wanted mothers to feel good about bringing children to the matches.
After the 1900 season, the owners announced they would be taking on major league status in 1901, and without the $2400 salary cap the NL had instituted. Over 100 players jumped to the new major league.
The original American League consisted of the Boston Americans, Chicago White Stockings, Cleveland Bluebirds, Detroit Tigers, Baltimore Orioles, Philadelphia Athletics, Milwaukee Brewers, and Washington Senators. Connie Mack owned the Philadelphia team, Comiskey the White Stockings, the Killeleas the Brewers. Other Irish-American owners were Jack Kilfoyl, co-owner of the Cleveland Blues, John McMahon and John McGraw, (also the player-manager) of the Baltimore Orioles; and James Burns of the Detroit Tigers.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 20, 2021 17:05:34 GMT
Five Who Did: The Founding of the American Leagueby Five Irish-American MilwaukeeansPublished 2017 Guest Bloggers, Brian Witt & Bob BuegeFor well over a century, major league baseball has comprised two leagues, the National League and the American League. The junior circuit was formed at a clandestine meeting in room 185 in Milwaukee’s Republican Hotel (aka Republican House) on the evening of March 5, 1900. A historical marker commemorates the site at which that once-grand hotel stood, near the corner of what is now Old World Third Street and Kilbourn Avenue. The five men most responsible for the creation of the second league met secretly in the Republican Hotel to escape the prying eyes and ears of Chicago newspaper reporters. The establishment of the new league, with a rival club in Chicago, challenged Chicago’s National League monopoly and represented a declaration of baseball war. The originators of the American League included two men whose names have remained prominent in baseball circles, Connie Mack and Charles Comiskey, who both became team owners. The other three were league president Ban Johnson and a pair of Milwaukee lawyers, Henry Killilea and his brother Matthew, previously the owners of Milwaukee’s team in the Western League. The unseen person was Timothy “Ted” Sullivan, a native of County Clare, and long-time resident of Milwaukee. Most people do not know that the American League was founded and incorporated in Milwaukee. The fact that four of them were Irish-Americans, as well as the man who initially brought them all together, Ted Sullivan, is even less well-known. One of the new American League franchises belonged to the Milwaukee Brewers. The Brewers played their home games in 1900 in Milwaukee Park, a ramshackle wooden structure located between 16th and 17th Streets, with North Avenue on the north and Lloyd Street on the south. The street name gave the park the moniker by which it was commonly known, the Lloyd Street Grounds. The American League in 1900 was still considered a minor league. The following year it replaced several clubs with larger eastern cities and became baseball’s second major league. The Milwaukee franchise was summarily transferred to St. Louis after the 1901 season and became the Browns. Milwaukee did not return to major league status until Lou Perini relocated his Boston Braves to County Stadium in 1953 and became the Milwaukee Braves. The Killelea brothers were born to Irish emigrant parents in Winnebago County. Both were outstanding athletes, and, after their graduation from college, they played semi-pro baseball together, with Matt pitching and Henry catching. Both brothers were lawyers, and both were active in the Democratic politics in Milwaukee and Wisconsin. Henry had also been an accomplished football player at University of Michigan, playing both quarterback and punter. In the 1890’s, they purchased the Milwaukee Brewers of the minor league Western League. The Western League had a history of folding and coming back to life. In one iteration, Ted Sullivan brought the league back into existence, as well as resurrecting the Milwaukee Brewers name. Both the league and the team were taken away from him, for flooding the field so as not to play a home game against a stronger team. In an even earlier time, Sullivan brought his protégé, and brother-in-law, Charles Comiskey, originally from Chicago, to play for Ted’s Milwaukee Alerts. Comiskey lived in Milwaukee off and on for about decade. In the 1890’s, the Killeleas brought a well-respected manager and player on board to manage the minor league Brewers, Cornelius McGillicuddy, better known as Connie Mack. Mack had managed the Pittsburgh Pirates, and had also played for the team, a common theme at the time in baseball. Mack would manage the team from its min or league status until it entered the American league. He lived in the area for a number of years, as he also had an ownership stake in the Brewers. In 1894, Comiskey was managing the Cincinnati Reds when he met Cincinnati sportswriter Ban Johnson. The two of them decided to buy the Western League, with Johnson to become president. The idea was to take it to major league status, as the only major league was the National League. When the quintet of Johnson, Comiskey, Matt and Henry Killelea and Mack met at the Roosevelt Hotel on 3rd and Kilbourn in 1900, it was done in secret, because many of the Western League teams had minor league contracts with the National League. One of the first things done was that the league was named the American League, to keep with the patriotic theme. Johnson also instituted a number of rules, including no swearing on the field, as he felt the Nationals were crude and vulgar, and he wanted mothers to feel good about bringing children to the matches. After the 1900 season, the owners announced they would be taking on major league status in 1901, and without the $2400 salary cap the NL had instituted. Over 100 players jumped to the new major league. The original American League consisted of the Boston Americans, Chicago White Stockings, Cleveland Bluebirds, Detroit Tigers, Baltimore Orioles, Philadelphia Athletics, Milwaukee Brewers, and Washington Senators. Connie Mack owned the Philadelphia team, Comiskey the White Stockings, the Killeleas the Brewers. Other Irish-American owners were Jack Kilfoyl, co-owner of the Cleveland Blues, John McMahon and John McGraw, (also the player-manager) of the Baltimore Orioles; and James Burns of the Detroit Tigers. The article doesn't mention Charles Somers. He was the majority owner of the Cleveland team. He also owned the Red Sox for their first two years. Joint ownership was huge problem for the NL, leading to the abominable 1899 Cleveland Spiders. But Somers kept both teams on the level until a buyer was found the the Sox. Somers also bankrolled Robert Hedges of the St. Louis Browns, Charles Comiskey's White Sox and Connie Mack's Athletics. Without Somers cash, the AL couldn't have gone to war with the NL and probably would have folded.
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Post by sublime92 on Apr 20, 2021 18:35:05 GMT
Mickey Mantle struck out an average of 115 times a season (which was heavily criticized back then) but still hit for .300. Mantle was versatile as well. He would drag bunt down the first base line, beat the throw, get a single and get the runner over.
Aaron Judge strikes out 140+ times during the 2017, 2018 and 2019 seasons and can't crack .300. It's pathetic. It's either a homerun or a strike out with guys like Judge and Stanton. How about slow down your swing and hit to the opposite field, get a base hit, get the runner over and maybe drive in a run? Nope. It's usually a strikeout/pop up or a home run.
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