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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 7:15:49 GMT
Well, after being stuck in development hell, we finally have ourselves a live-action justice league film. Looks good, but there IS the likelihood that it could be disappointing.
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Post by politicidal on May 14, 2017 16:07:39 GMT
It's the Justice League film we deserve I suppose. So we'll hate it. Because it can take it.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 15, 2017 4:06:08 GMT
I already said this on the DCEU board so I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record, but Justice League will be divisive.
It's just how Snyder is. He caters to his following and his following alone. You either hate his style or love it. He will never change his style either.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 15, 2017 19:58:26 GMT
I will say this: According to what we saw in the trailer it does look like more of the same; a bigger version of MOS and BVS. That's good or bad depending on whether or not you liked the previous movies.
Whats missing in Snyders version of these movies is hope and fun. Darkness works for Batman, but not for Superman or a team like Justice League. For example darkness works for Suicide Squad because they're a team of criminals, and are Batman related anyway.
But Superman and the Justice League are supposed to save the world. We should revel in the heroism of characters that are larger than life. Not be brought down into gloom.
In short Snyder would have been perfect for Batman movies, but instead he got Superman and Justice League movies. Maybe instead of directing Justice League 2 he should direct Afflecks The Batman.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on May 15, 2017 20:28:45 GMT
development hell? did they not move at quite a clip to get this one produced?
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Post by politicidal on May 15, 2017 21:31:26 GMT
I will say this: According to what we saw in the trailer it does look like more of the same; a bigger version of MOS and BVS. That's good or bad depending on whether or not you liked the previous movies. Whats missing in Snyders version of these movies is hope and fun. Darkness works for Batman, but not for Superman or a team like Justice League. For example darkness works for Suicide Squad because they're a team of criminals, and are Batman related anyway. But Superman and the Justice League are supposed to save the world. We should revel in the heroism of characters that are larger than life. Not be brought down into gloom. In short Snyder would have been perfect for Batman movies, but instead he got Superman and Justice League movies. Maybe instead of directing Justice League 2 he should direct Afflecks The Batman. I think you're onto something because what I liked most about BVS was Batman and Alfred and what Snyder portrayed his equipment and gadgetry. Makes you wonder why they didn't just assign Snyder to Batman and someone else for Superman?
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 15, 2017 21:58:30 GMT
I will say this: According to what we saw in the trailer it does look like more of the same; a bigger version of MOS and BVS. That's good or bad depending on whether or not you liked the previous movies. Whats missing in Snyders version of these movies is hope and fun. Darkness works for Batman, but not for Superman or a team like Justice League. For example darkness works for Suicide Squad because they're a team of criminals, and are Batman related anyway. But Superman and the Justice League are supposed to save the world. We should revel in the heroism of characters that are larger than life. Not be brought down into gloom. In short Snyder would have been perfect for Batman movies, but instead he got Superman and Justice League movies. Maybe instead of directing Justice League 2 he should direct Afflecks The Batman. I think you're onto something because what I liked most about BVS was Batman and Alfred and what Snyder portrayed his equipment and gadgetry. Makes you wonder why they didn't just assign Snyder to Batman and someone else for Superman? That's a great idea. Why not let Snyder direct the solo Batman film and give Reeves Man of Steel 2? I do think that Reeves can make a really good Batman movie, but Superman could suit him as well. Snyder also seemed to be in his element with Batman.
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Post by brownstones on May 15, 2017 22:00:04 GMT
I will say this: According to what we saw in the trailer it does look like more of the same; a bigger version of MOS and BVS. That's good or bad depending on whether or not you liked the previous movies. Whats missing in Snyders version of these movies is hope and fun. Darkness works for Batman, but not for Superman or a team like Justice League. For example darkness works for Suicide Squad because they're a team of criminals, and are Batman related anyway. But Superman and the Justice League are supposed to save the world. We should revel in the heroism of characters that are larger than life. Not be brought down into gloom. In short Snyder would have been perfect for Batman movies, but instead he got Superman and Justice League movies. Maybe instead of directing Justice League 2 he should direct Afflecks The Batman. I think you're onto something because what I liked most about BVS was Batman and Alfred and what Snyder portrayed his equipment and gadgetry. Makes you wonder why they didn't just assign Snyder to Batman and someone else for Superman? you gotta ask Nolan, WB, and the line of directors who said no. I get that the MoS script isn't bad per se, it's pretty barebones, but definitely malleable, however I think a lot of people refused the job because they didn't want to touch what donner made..........40 years ago. even singer's superman returns, he couldn't let go of that era trying to incorporate into the film. and so I think Snyder was able to pick it up because everyone else refused, I mean if WB and Nolan had to pick between Aronofsky and Snyder....I mean........come on, because I doubt they would have said "sorry Darren, but Zack said yes"
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 7:11:41 GMT
development hell? did they not move at quite a clip to get this one produced? Sorry, I meant to get a justice league movie, given that the George Miller one was cancelled.
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Post by misstique on May 16, 2017 7:50:12 GMT
I will say this: According to what we saw in the trailer it does look like more of the same; a bigger version of MOS and BVS. That's good or bad depending on whether or not you liked the previous movies. Whats missing in Snyders version of these movies is hope and fun. Darkness works for Batman, but not for Superman or a team like Justice League. For example darkness works for Suicide Squad because they're a team of criminals, and are Batman related anyway. But Superman and the Justice League are supposed to save the world. We should revel in the heroism of characters that are larger than life. Not be brought down into gloom. In short Snyder would have been perfect for Batman movies, but instead he got Superman and Justice League movies. Maybe instead of directing Justice League 2 he should direct Afflecks The Batman. I think you're onto something because what I liked most about BVS was Batman and Alfred and what Snyder portrayed his equipment and gadgetry. Makes you wonder why they didn't just assign Snyder to Batman and someone else for Superman? That's the problem with WB. They want Snyder to handle ALL of their superhero movies. Even if he's not directing, he is on as executive producer (and you know those guys usually are very "involved" in the movie-making process). That's what Marvel got right. They assign different directors for different superheroes based on the tone of the movie.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 16, 2017 17:20:01 GMT
I actually do think that Snyder would be great for a solo Batman movie. Both visually and thematically its his "wheelhouse" as it were. Whereas Matt Reeves hasn't made a bad movie, but he doesn't necessarily have a "style" just yet.
However Mathew Vaughn would be perfect for a MOS2 Superman sequel. He's mainstream enough and irreverent enough to do movie that's at once safe but with a touch of edge. Just what a Superman movie needs.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 16, 2017 22:11:52 GMT
development hell? did they not move at quite a clip to get this one produced? Justice League "Remade Twice" During "Extensive" Reshoots Splash Report is citing a trusted anonymous source that claims that JUSTICE LEAGUE has been "plagued with reshoots" since the movie wrapped production in October of 2016. In addition to the reshoots, the movie has also gone through plenty of on-the-spot rewrites. "Speaking on a condition of anonymity, [ REDACTED ] said that in the 17 months between the start of principal photography, and the final cut arriving in theaters in November, that the film will have essentially been "remade... twice." That's pretty big news for Justice League if the rumor proves as true. There are more reshoots COMING SOON . There have been a bunch but they're going to do MORE." The source refused to offer any more details, but according to Splash Report, has a trustworthy track record, revealing rewrites for Rogue One last year, and some other news involving Ben Affleck and The Batman.
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Post by politicidal on May 16, 2017 22:32:08 GMT
development hell? did they not move at quite a clip to get this one produced? Justice League "Remade Twice" During "Extensive" Reshoots Splash Report is citing a trusted anonymous source that claims that JUSTICE LEAGUE has been "plagued with reshoots" since the movie wrapped production in October of 2016. In addition to the reshoots, the movie has also gone through plenty of on-the-spot rewrites. "Speaking on a condition of anonymity, [ REDACTED ] said that in the 17 months between the start of principal photography, and the final cut arriving in theaters in November, that the film will have essentially been "remade... twice." That's pretty big news for Justice League if the rumor proves as true. There are more reshoots COMING SOON . There have been a bunch but they're going to do MORE." The source refused to offer any more details, but according to Splash Report, has a trustworthy track record, revealing rewrites for Rogue One last year, and some other news involving Ben Affleck and The Batman. Yea I know, Comrade Stalin just gleefully informed everyone on the DCEU board.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 22:39:20 GMT
I already said this on the DCEU board so I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record, but Justice League will be divisive. It's just how Snyder is. He caters to his following and his following alone. You either hate his style or love it. He will never change his style either. In other words, he gives not a damn about how fans of DC and the Justice League feel about anything.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 6:25:32 GMT
I am looking forward to seeing it but I think they are making a mistake not using Green Lantern and having Cyborg over Martian Manhunter. Justice League 2 could be even better since Warner Bros said they have plans to bring more superheroes into it and we might get the lineup with Supergirl, Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, Stargirl, Hawkman, Equinox and Adam Strange.
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Post by politicidal on May 17, 2017 17:09:41 GMT
I am looking forward to seeing it but I think they are making a mistake not using Green Lantern and having Cyborg over Martian Manhunter. Justice League 2 could be even better since Warner Bros said they have plans to bring more superheroes into it and we might get the lineup with Supergirl, Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, Stargirl, Hawkman, Equinox and Adam Strange. I'd like to see a Justice Society of America story (or at least an Earth-Two movie) featuring Mr. Miracle, Big Barda, Power Girl, Wildcat, Doctor Fate, Hawkman, and Johnny Quick as the lineup.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 17, 2017 17:56:15 GMT
IF, IF, I had been allowed to write and direct Justice League (one can dream!) I would spend the first third of the movie having the team get together and resolving the re-birth of Superman so we could have him in the rest of the movie. The second third of the movie would have the whole team starting to fight the enemies from Apokolips as they attack Earth.
And the last third would have them travel to Apokolips for a showdown of some kind, and there I would have the Green Lantern corps show up to lend a hand. By the end of the first movie the whole team would be together.
IF I had my way I would have had Martian Manhunter instead of Cyborg too, but cest la vie...
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 18, 2017 17:51:36 GMT
So I've been thinking about this, because I really want Justice League to succeed... What if Justice League turns out to be just like BvS, but just bigger with more superheroes? The same tone and dark and kinda gloomy, but with cool action and maybe a few more jokes? I think that's what its going to be. Would that be enough to lift this up above BvS? Opinions?
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Post by chatterer on May 18, 2017 21:29:12 GMT
So I've been thinking about this, because I really want Justice League to succeed... What if Justice League turns out to be just like BvS, but just bigger with more superheroes? The same tone and dark and kinda gloomy, but with cool action and maybe a few more jokes? I think that's what its going to be. Would that be enough to lift this up above BvS? Opinions? I think it will be lighter in tone. Geoff Johns involvement from those that have seen WW say it is noticeable. This will carry through onto JL. I think the changes go deeper than just humour. It only needs to make 80m more in Domestic and International to get it over 1b. So I do think it will be received better than BvS both critically and financially.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 22:47:18 GMT
I'm passing on this crap (unless the reviews are damn good. Not holding my breath though haha). Been burned too many times by the people at DC/Warner Bros.
Oh well, we'll always have The Dark Knight trilogy at least.
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