Michael Jordan is the GOAT
Apr 28, 2021 13:03:05 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 28, 2021 13:03:05 GMT
This stuff is nuts.
-- 25% of players in the NBA who played against MJ never beat him. The majority of them beat him three times or less. For his career. 74 players never lost to him, most of those with records like 2-0 or 3-0 at the end of his career with the Wizards. Imagine these numbers if he hadn't come out of retirement to waste time with the Wizards.
-- Jordan averaged 37 PPG in 1987 while averaging less than one 3 pt attempt per game. In 1996 he shot 43% from 3 on 260 attempts. That's a better % than ANY single season by, well, go to the 8:30 mark of the video and prepare to be shocked.
-- Only four players other than Jordan have ever led the league in scoring and won the title that season. Jordan did it six times. It should also be mentioned three of the other four are centers and one was a PF back in 1947.
-- About those scoring titles. Lebron (1), Curry (1), Harden (2), Durant (4), Westbrook (2), combine for ten scoring titles. Jordan alone had ten scoring titles.
-- Jordan has the highest BPM is league history, highest career PER in league history, highest PPG in league history (which, when combined with the PER stuff is truly, truly insane), highest career WS/48 and six of the top ten VORP seasons in league history.
Here's another great video I found a while back.
Of course MJ has the highest career playoff scoring average-- he averaged 40 PPG for an entire playoff series 6 times in his career!
A while back somebody started a thread about dominant stretches in a player's career, and these are the staggering stats/anecdotes I posted about Jordan's performance during the two three peats.
And again this isn't some Center who's just bigger than everyone else. This is the embodiment of talent, athleticism, hard work and sheer force of will that dominated the NBA for 13 years. (And he wasn't half bad when he came back with the Wizards, either.) For the sake of conversation, I'm willing to listen to the argument for any other player as the GOAT. You'll just have to wait for me to stop laughing first, particularly if your argument is for someone from the last 20 years.
-- 25% of players in the NBA who played against MJ never beat him. The majority of them beat him three times or less. For his career. 74 players never lost to him, most of those with records like 2-0 or 3-0 at the end of his career with the Wizards. Imagine these numbers if he hadn't come out of retirement to waste time with the Wizards.
-- Jordan averaged 37 PPG in 1987 while averaging less than one 3 pt attempt per game. In 1996 he shot 43% from 3 on 260 attempts. That's a better % than ANY single season by, well, go to the 8:30 mark of the video and prepare to be shocked.
-- Only four players other than Jordan have ever led the league in scoring and won the title that season. Jordan did it six times. It should also be mentioned three of the other four are centers and one was a PF back in 1947.
-- About those scoring titles. Lebron (1), Curry (1), Harden (2), Durant (4), Westbrook (2), combine for ten scoring titles. Jordan alone had ten scoring titles.
-- Jordan has the highest BPM is league history, highest career PER in league history, highest PPG in league history (which, when combined with the PER stuff is truly, truly insane), highest career WS/48 and six of the top ten VORP seasons in league history.
Here's another great video I found a while back.
Of course MJ has the highest career playoff scoring average-- he averaged 40 PPG for an entire playoff series 6 times in his career!
A while back somebody started a thread about dominant stretches in a player's career, and these are the staggering stats/anecdotes I posted about Jordan's performance during the two three peats.
Michael Jordan from 1991-1993
3x NBA Champion
3x NBA Finals MVP
2x NBA MVP (1991, 1992)
3x All Star
3x All Defensive NBA First Team
3x NBA Scoring Champion
1x NBA Steals Leader (1993)
3x All NBA First Team
3x AP Athlete of the Year
In 1991, the Bulls swept the two time defending champion Pistons in the ECF and beat Magic's Lakers 4-1 in the Finals
In 1992, the Bulls beat the 51 win Knicks in the second round, the 57 win Cavs in the ECF, and the 57 win Trail Blazers led by Clyde Drexler (in 6 games)
In 1993, the Bulls swept the first two rounds of the playoffs, beat the 60 win Knicks in 6 games in the ECF, and beat a loaded, 62 win Suns team featuring MVP Charles Barkley (in 6 games)
Michael Jordan from 1996-1998
3x NBA Champion
3x NBA Finals MVP
2x NBA MVP (1996, 1998)
3x All Star
2x All Star MVP (1996, 1998)
3x All Defensive NBA First Team
3x NBA Scoring Champion
3x All NBA First Team
In 1996 the Bulls went 72-10 in the regular season, went 12-1 in the EC playoff bracket (including a sweep of the Shaq/Penny defending EC champion Magic) and beat the 64 win Payton/Kemp Sonics (in 6 games)
In 1997, the Bulls went 69-13 in the regular season, beat the 56 win Mutombo/Smith/Blaylock Hawks in 5 games, the 61 win Mourning/Hardaway Heat in 5 games and the 64 win Malone/Stockton Jazz (in 6 games)
In 1998, the Bulls beat the 58 win Miller/Smits/Jackson Pacers in the ECF and the 62 win Stockton/Malone Jazz (in 6 games)
Jordan played in 82 of 82 games in all three seasons, averaging over 37 MPG, and obviously played every post season game. The man played at the elite of the elite level at both ends of the floor, every single night, for three seasons and won the title each year. He beat multiple 60 win teams featuring HOF players in the playoffs en route to a second threepeat. If that's not dominance, I don't know what is.
3x NBA Champion
3x NBA Finals MVP
2x NBA MVP (1991, 1992)
3x All Star
3x All Defensive NBA First Team
3x NBA Scoring Champion
1x NBA Steals Leader (1993)
3x All NBA First Team
3x AP Athlete of the Year
In 1991, the Bulls swept the two time defending champion Pistons in the ECF and beat Magic's Lakers 4-1 in the Finals
In 1992, the Bulls beat the 51 win Knicks in the second round, the 57 win Cavs in the ECF, and the 57 win Trail Blazers led by Clyde Drexler (in 6 games)
In 1993, the Bulls swept the first two rounds of the playoffs, beat the 60 win Knicks in 6 games in the ECF, and beat a loaded, 62 win Suns team featuring MVP Charles Barkley (in 6 games)
Michael Jordan from 1996-1998
3x NBA Champion
3x NBA Finals MVP
2x NBA MVP (1996, 1998)
3x All Star
2x All Star MVP (1996, 1998)
3x All Defensive NBA First Team
3x NBA Scoring Champion
3x All NBA First Team
In 1996 the Bulls went 72-10 in the regular season, went 12-1 in the EC playoff bracket (including a sweep of the Shaq/Penny defending EC champion Magic) and beat the 64 win Payton/Kemp Sonics (in 6 games)
In 1997, the Bulls went 69-13 in the regular season, beat the 56 win Mutombo/Smith/Blaylock Hawks in 5 games, the 61 win Mourning/Hardaway Heat in 5 games and the 64 win Malone/Stockton Jazz (in 6 games)
In 1998, the Bulls beat the 58 win Miller/Smits/Jackson Pacers in the ECF and the 62 win Stockton/Malone Jazz (in 6 games)
Jordan played in 82 of 82 games in all three seasons, averaging over 37 MPG, and obviously played every post season game. The man played at the elite of the elite level at both ends of the floor, every single night, for three seasons and won the title each year. He beat multiple 60 win teams featuring HOF players in the playoffs en route to a second threepeat. If that's not dominance, I don't know what is.
And again this isn't some Center who's just bigger than everyone else. This is the embodiment of talent, athleticism, hard work and sheer force of will that dominated the NBA for 13 years. (And he wasn't half bad when he came back with the Wizards, either.) For the sake of conversation, I'm willing to listen to the argument for any other player as the GOAT. You'll just have to wait for me to stop laughing first, particularly if your argument is for someone from the last 20 years.