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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 14, 2021 10:11:32 GMT
Per Vegas Insider
Kansas City Chiefs +450 9/2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers +700 7/1 Baltimore Ravens +1200 12/1 Buffalo Bills +1200 12/1 Los Angeles Rams +1200 12/1 San Francisco 49ers +1400 14/1 Cleveland Browns +1600 16/1 Green Bay Packers +1800 18/1 Denver Broncos +2000 20/1 Indianapolis Colts +2000 20/1 Dallas Cowboys +2500 25/1 Arizona Cardinals +3000 30/1 Los Angeles Chargers +3000 30/1 Miami Dolphins +3000 30/1 New England Patriots +3000 30/1 Seatle Seahawks +3000 30/1 New Orleans Saints +3500 35/1 Chicago Bears +4000 40/1 Tennessee Titans +4000 40/1 Carolina Panthers +5000 50/1 Pittsburgh Steelers +5000 50/1 Las Vegas Raiders +6600 66/1 Minnesota Vikings +6600 66/1 Washington Football Team +6600 66/1 Atlanta Falcons +8000 80/1 New York Giants +8000 80/1 New York Jets +8000 80/1 Philadelphia Eagles +8000 80/1 Cincinnati Bengals +10000 100/1 Jacksonville Jaguars +12500 125/1 Detroit Lions +20000 200/1 Houston Texans +25000 250/1
Super Bowl 56 will be -
Browns 35 Cowboys 31
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 14, 2021 12:13:04 GMT
Buccaneers over Bills.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 14, 2021 12:16:41 GMT
I have no problem with Brady winning another
I want him to keep winning and winning and winning as long as he's playing
That would be heart wrenching for Bills fans
All of those years with Brady in their own division with him owning them -
Then he beats them in the Super Bowl
That would be great theater....
As would the Bills getting revenge on him and winning the big one....
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 14, 2021 12:20:39 GMT
I have no problem with Brady winning another
I want him to keep winning and winning and winning as long as he's playing
That would be heart wrenching for Bills fans
All of those years with Brady in their own division with him owning them -
Then he beats them in the Super Bowl
That would be great theater....
As would the Bills getting revenge on him and winning the big one....
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Post by Winston Wolfe on May 14, 2021 13:53:16 GMT
How in the freaking hell are the Rams that high?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 14, 2021 14:03:04 GMT
How in the freaking hell are the Rams that high? Banking on Stafford being that elite QB we've all heard about for years
I don't see it
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 14, 2021 14:09:01 GMT
How in the freaking hell are the Rams that high? Banking on Stafford being that elite QB we've all heard about for years
I don't see it
Do you think that Dak is elite? Assume for the sake of this question he’s 100% healthy even though I have no idea his current medical status. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 14, 2021 14:12:58 GMT
Banking on Stafford being that elite QB we've all heard about for years
I don't see it
Do you think that Dak is elite? Assume for the sake of this question he’s 100% healthy even though I have no idea his current medical status. By no means - but I do think he is above average
However he has a ton of weapons
Their major problem last year was their defense
I'm banking on their defense being better
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 14, 2021 15:59:48 GMT
Banking on Stafford being that elite QB we've all heard about for years
I don't see it
Do you think that Dak is elite? Assume for the sake of this question he’s 100% healthy even though I have no idea his current medical status. Do I think Prescott is an elite QB? I do not. Elite QB's win games. Elite QB's win playoff games. Dak puts up gaudy stats but gaudy stats do not win playoff games. He's another Dan Marino. Before y'all jump to a false conclusion, my take of Marino was that he was a "Stat Whore". He looked good in the end of season numbers but never won a damned thing. Never at Pitt and he had very good teams in his four years. never at Miami. If Dak wins something, I'll take it back. I said the same thing about Elway and he proved me wrong.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 14, 2021 16:33:52 GMT
I'd like to pick somebody else other than the Bucs from the NFC but, man, is that an unimpressive conference. I'd like to pick the Niners, but I can't bet on Garoppolo/Lance over Brady.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 14, 2021 16:43:47 GMT
I'd like to pick somebody else other than the Bucs from the NFC but, man, is that an unimpressive conference. I'd like to pick the Niners, but I can't bet on Garoppolo/Lance over Brady. This is exactly my reasoning for going with Dallas
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 14, 2021 16:51:53 GMT
Do you think that Dak is elite? Assume for the sake of this question he’s 100% healthy even though I have no idea his current medical status. Do I think Prescott is an elite QB? I do not. Elite QB's win games. Elite QB's win playoff games. Dak puts up gaudy stats but gaudy stats do not win playoff games. He's another Dan Marino. Before y'all jump to a false conclusion, my take of Marino was that he was a "Stat Whore". He looked good in the end of season numbers but never won a damned thing. Never at Pitt and he had very good teams in his four years. never at Miami. If Dak wins something, I'll take it back. I said the same thing about Elway and he proved me wrong. Elway went to 5 Super Bowls. He was better than Marino even if he'd never won any of them.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 14, 2021 17:02:32 GMT
Do I think Prescott is an elite QB? I do not. Elite QB's win games. Elite QB's win playoff games. Dak puts up gaudy stats but gaudy stats do not win playoff games. He's another Dan Marino. Before y'all jump to a false conclusion, my take of Marino was that he was a "Stat Whore". He looked good in the end of season numbers but never won a damned thing. Never at Pitt and he had very good teams in his four years. never at Miami. If Dak wins something, I'll take it back. I said the same thing about Elway and he proved me wrong. Elway went to 5 Super Bowls. He was better than Marino even if he'd never won any of them. Those Pitt Panther teams in Marino's four years were incredibly talented. The offensive linemen, Jim Covert, Mark May, Bill Fralic. The defensive monsters, Hugh Green, Rickey Jackson, Chris Doleman, Tim Lewis, Carlton Williamson. But never a title. One game a year, Marino would lay an egg. Yeah, Pitt never had a run game in those years, Tony Dorsett was long gone and Ironhead Heyward was in the future. But still...
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 14, 2021 17:08:20 GMT
Dan Marino got love because he was an attractive male (I'm secure in my sexuality where I can say that)
He even had Duper and Clayton and won squatolla
This is pretty much why some still praise Jimmy G
If Jimmy looked like an Ewok he wouldn't be discussed as much as he is
Looks are important folks - sad fact of life for some (not me though)
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 15, 2021 3:49:56 GMT
Buffalo 23 - LA Rams 20
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Post by bluerisk on May 15, 2021 12:23:21 GMT
Per Vegas Insider
Kansas City Chiefs +450 9/2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers +700 7/1 Baltimore Ravens +1200 12/1 Buffalo Bills +1200 12/1 Los Angeles Rams +1200 12/1 San Francisco 49ers +1400 14/1 Cleveland Browns +1600 16/1 Green Bay Packers +1800 18/1 Denver Broncos +2000 20/1 Indianapolis Colts +2000 20/1 Dallas Cowboys +2500 25/1 Arizona Cardinals +3000 30/1 Los Angeles Chargers +3000 30/1 Miami Dolphins +3000 30/1 New England Patriots +3000 30/1 Seatle Seahawks +3000 30/1 New Orleans Saints +3500 35/1 Chicago Bears +4000 40/1 Tennessee Titans +4000 40/1 Carolina Panthers +5000 50/1 Pittsburgh Steelers +5000 50/1 Las Vegas Raiders +6600 66/1 Minnesota Vikings +6600 66/1 Washington Football Team +6600 66/1 Atlanta Falcons +8000 80/1 New York Giants +8000 80/1 New York Jets +8000 80/1 Philadelphia Eagles +8000 80/1 Cincinnati Bengals +10000 100/1 Jacksonville Jaguars +12500 125/1 Detroit Lions +20000 200/1 Houston Texans +25000 250/1
Super Bowl 56 will be -
Browns 35 Cowboys 31
Chiefs are overrated a bit, Rams underrated. Bills and 49ers are a bit of a dark horse here. Super Bowl maybe, but they will choke. Bucs vs. Bills 37 - 12
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Post by Xeliou66 on May 15, 2021 17:34:59 GMT
How in the hell are the Niners so high? Yeah I get they made it to the Super Bowl in 2019, but they are clearly transitioning to a new QB now, and that will be a challenge. I think Jimmy G will be the QB to start the year at least but they clearly want Lance to be the QB of the future, and so I think 2021 could be a rocky transition season for the Niners. However, an interesting question becomes what if Jimmy G puts up big numbers and the Niners have a great year? What do they do then?
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Post by tristramshandy on May 15, 2021 18:30:51 GMT
Elway went to 5 Super Bowls. He was better than Marino even if he'd never won any of them. Those Pitt Panther teams in Marino's four years were incredibly talented. The offensive linemen, Jim Covert, Mark May, Bill Fralic. The defensive monsters, Hugh Green, Rickey Jackson, Chris Doleman, Tim Lewis, Carlton Williamson. But never a title. One game a year, Marino would lay an egg. Yeah, Pitt never had a run game in those years, Tony Dorsett was long gone and Ironhead Heyward was in the future. But still...
Matt Cavanaugh and Tee Martin have college titles and Dan Marino and Peyton Manning don't.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 15, 2021 19:14:23 GMT
Those Pitt Panther teams in Marino's four years were incredibly talented. The offensive linemen, Jim Covert, Mark May, Bill Fralic. The defensive monsters, Hugh Green, Rickey Jackson, Chris Doleman, Tim Lewis, Carlton Williamson. But never a title. One game a year, Marino would lay an egg. Yeah, Pitt never had a run game in those years, Tony Dorsett was long gone and Ironhead Heyward was in the future. But still...
Matt Cavanaugh and Tee Martin have college titles and Dan Marino and Peyton Manning don't. Josh Heupel, Jake Coker, Craig Krenzel, JT Barrett, Tim Tebow all won titles. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Pat Mahomes, John Elway did not. Of course, this means diddly, but I do think this will change. The last six title winning QB's, Mac Jones, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jalen Hurts/Tua, DeShaun Watson were all NFL prospects. I don't think we will ever see option QB again, not at a high level. No more Tommy Frazier or Turner Gill. Will there be a title winning QB with no NFL future again, yeah. But I think they will be rarer and rarer
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Post by tristramshandy on May 15, 2021 19:46:53 GMT
Matt Cavanaugh and Tee Martin have college titles and Dan Marino and Peyton Manning don't. Josh Heupel, Jake Coker, Craig Krenzel, JT Barrett, Tim Tebow all won titles. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Pat Mahomes, John Elway did not. Of course, this means diddly, but I do think this will change. The last six title winning QB's, Mac Jones, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jalen Hurts/Tua, DeShaun Watson were all NFL prospects. I don't think we will ever see option QB again, not at a high level. No more Tommy Frazier or Turner Gill. Will there be a title winning QB with no NFL future again, yeah. But I think they will be rarer and rarer
Very true, but Pitt wins the title in '76 and Marino gets there in '79. It's not like Cal, Texas Tech, or Stanford - - the structure was there for Pitt to win a title. IIRC, Martin wins the Vols the title the year after Manning graduates.
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