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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 17, 2021 19:19:16 GMT
...impossible.
Nothing new there, but I thought it was interesting. This bit however caught my attention:
Shouldn't it be "shipping me off to an uncertain fate with Jabba the Hutt?
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 17, 2021 19:48:09 GMT
The fact that George Lucas apparently included a clause in his contract with Disney that said they couldn’t release the unaltered versions of the original movies is the most George Lucas thing I can think of.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on May 17, 2021 22:18:31 GMT
The fact that George Lucas apparently included a clause in his contract with Disney that said they couldn’t release the unaltered versions of the original movies is the most George Lucas thing I can think of. That always makes me laugh - The changed versions were part of his "original vision" and it's just the technology didn't exist at the time... Well if that's the case, why has he never gone back and tidied up the CGI on the prequels? e.g Was the Windows 98 background looking battlefield on Naboo really his "final" original vision, which can never be improved upon? |
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Post by Prime etc. on May 17, 2021 23:16:12 GMT
Check out the 1954 Prince Valiant. Star Wars is a remake of this FOX film.
You got a black knight just like Vader, you have a magic sword, you got a Han Solo guy (Sterling Hayden), an awards scene at the end just like Star Wars and the hero is a farm boy.
They wanted Flash Gordon-but once they saw they couldn't get it they just switched to Prince Valiant.
What original vision? It is a sci-fi remake. No wonder they didn't have a sequel in place.
Gary Kurtz said that "May the Force Be With You" was meant to be medieval --Prince Valiant is medieval.
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Post by ck100 on May 17, 2021 23:57:13 GMT
Just take the laserdisc/non-anamorphic DVD and do a remaster of it.
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Post by alpha128 on May 18, 2021 0:11:19 GMT
I own the 2006 limited edition DVDs with the “theatrical versions” of the three original movies.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 18, 2021 0:38:37 GMT
I own the 2006 limited edition DVDs with the “theatrical versions” of the three original movies. Is that the one with the 4:3 version mentioned in the article? |
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Post by alpha128 on May 18, 2021 0:52:03 GMT
I own the 2006 limited edition DVDs with the “theatrical versions” of the three original movies. Is that the one with the 4:3 version mentioned in the article? Yes. But I held off on buying any Star Wars home video releases until I could get the theatrical versions of the original films. As soon as these DVDs become available, I snapped them up. I have no regrets.
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Post by ant-mac on May 18, 2021 6:27:50 GMT
...impossible.
Nothing new there, but I thought it was interesting. This bit however caught my attention:
Shouldn't it be "shipping me off to an uncertain fate with Jabba the Hutt?
Really, I've got it on VHS videocassette. I pirated a copy of it and the other two from the original trilogy in the 1980s. Although I was never really a huge fan of STAR WARS... I prefer STAR TREK.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on May 18, 2021 19:20:43 GMT
I still have my VHS copies if I’m dying for the classic experience. Personally I think people overreact to the special edition changes but I guess I’m one of the lucky ones who has a choice of how I watch Star Wars.
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Post by MCDemuth on May 18, 2021 20:00:29 GMT
Is that the one with the 4:3 version mentioned in the article? Yes. But I held off on buying any Star Wars home video releases until I could get the theatrical versions of the original films. As soon as these DVDs become available, I snapped them up. I have no regrets. I have those too... and considering that they appear to be the best quality versions of the originals ever released, I have no reqrets as well... I just wished they could have formatted the video for 16x9 TVs... Seriously, how hard could that have been to do in 2006?
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Post by MCDemuth on May 18, 2021 20:07:25 GMT
I still have my VHS copies if I’m dying for the classic experience. Personally I think people overreact to the special edition changes but I guess I’m one of the lucky ones who has a choice of how I watch Star Wars. I loved the special effects updates... Cloud City in ESB, looks so much better since they added windows to see the beautiful clouds and such... What I didn't like, and what most other fans didn't like, was when they made changes to what the characters did and a what they said... "Han Shot First!"And what they did at the end of "Return Of The Jedi", was blasphemy.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on May 18, 2021 20:16:02 GMT
I still have my VHS copies if I’m dying for the classic experience. Personally I think people overreact to the special edition changes but I guess I’m one of the lucky ones who has a choice of how I watch Star Wars. I loved the special effects updates... Cloud City in ESB, looks so much better since they added windows to see the beautiful clouds and such... What I didn't like, and what most other fans didn't like, was when they made changes to what the characters did and a what they said... "Han Shot First!"And what they did at the end of "Return Of The Jedi", was blasphemy. I agree Han shot first and alone, definitely the stupidest change. As for RotJ, not sure what you have an issue with there. |
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Post by Jan El Señor on May 18, 2021 20:23:33 GMT
The fact that George Lucas apparently included a clause in his contract with Disney that said they couldn’t release the unaltered versions of the original movies is the most George Lucas thing I can think of. This has been debunked. Disney can release them if they want. |
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Post by MCDemuth on May 18, 2021 23:23:16 GMT
I loved the special effects updates... Cloud City in ESB, looks so much better since they added windows to see the beautiful clouds and such... What I didn't like, and what most other fans didn't like, was when they made changes to what the characters did and a what they said... "Han Shot First!"And what they did at the end of "Return Of The Jedi", was blasphemy. I agree Han shot first and alone, definitely the stupidest change. As for RotJ, not sure what you have an issue with there. In my opinion, the celebration music was better in the original. They should have kept Sebastian Shaw as the Anakin Skywalker force ghost.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on May 18, 2021 23:25:34 GMT
I agree Han shot first and alone, definitely the stupidest change. As for RotJ, not sure what you have an issue with there. In my opinion, the celebration music was better in the original. They should have kept Sebastian Shaw as the Anakin Skywalker force ghost. Very well, this is a agree to disagree situation. I prefer the Hayden change, but I understand why others don't. As for the music, they are both great and I'm glad both exist!
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Post by MCDemuth on May 18, 2021 23:28:01 GMT
The fact that George Lucas apparently included a clause in his contract with Disney that said they couldn’t release the unaltered versions of the original movies is the most George Lucas thing I can think of. This has been debunked. Disney can release them if they want. I have heard... That the films were chopped into pieces when Lucas created his special editions in the 1990s... The pieces are still in the vaults... But they would have to reassemble the film. It shouldn't be hard to scan it all, into a computer... put the pieces in the right order... and then release it.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 19, 2021 0:29:47 GMT
This has been debunked. Disney can release them if they want. I have heard... That the films were chopped into pieces when Lucas created his special editions in the 1990s... The pieces are still in the vaults... But they would have to reassemble the film. It shouldn't be hard to scan it all, into a computer... put the pieces in the right order... and then release it. If that’s the case, I don’t see why Disney doesn’t seize that opportunity. It sounds like an easy way to squeeze some more money out of the original films.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 19, 2021 0:53:29 GMT
Check out the 1954 Prince Valiant. Star Wars is a remake of this FOX film. You got a black knight just like Vader, you have a magic sword, you got a Han Solo guy (Sterling Hayden), an awards scene at the end just like Star Wars and the hero is a farm boy. They wanted Flash Gordon-but once they saw they couldn't get it they just switched to Prince Valiant. What original vision? It is a sci-fi remake. No wonder they didn't have a sequel in place. Gary Kurtz said that "May the Force Be With You" was meant to be medieval --Prince Valiant is medieval. This is the first I'm hearing of Prince Valiant. Usually I hear A New Hope was already busy being a sci-fi remake of The Hidden Fortress, and the similarities there are pretty obvious.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 19, 2021 1:14:14 GMT
This is the first I'm hearing of Prince Valiant. Usually I hear A New Hope was already busy being a sci-fi remake of The Hidden Fortress, and the similarities there are pretty obvious. Prince Valiant was a few years before the Hidden Fortress and a FOX film so there's no copyright shenanigans with it. It was known that Flash Gordon was an inspiration but they couldn't get the rights to it--Prince Valiant was also a famous comic strip like FG.
Secret of the Incas was not promoted as the inspiration for Raiders of the Lost Ark when it absolutely is and is also a Paramount film, coincidentally.
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