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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 10:24:10 GMT
Which side are you taking in the 3-0 swing gate? The fresh young fun exciting player? Or the old drunken douchebag who is fucking up yet another Mercedes who defends the other team throwing at his own player for violating an unwritten rule that dates back to the time when Eppa Rixey was going to his junior prom. Hint - the correct answer is not the joyless old future liver transplant recipient.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 19, 2021 10:28:00 GMT
I agree with La Russa but not the way he behaved
Talk with him behind closed doors
Like Giradi/Segura
No need to air that stuff out in public with/for the media/fans
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 19, 2021 10:33:19 GMT
Didn't he get a sign to take the pitch? Maybe I'm off Maybe La Russa felt it was disrespectful of the kid too that he was ignoring what he was supposed to do
** Edit - maybe he thought it was disrespectful too he was swinging for the fences in a blowout game
Do baseball old timers view this as pretty much as an NBA player shooting a 3 pointer late in the game when they're up by 30?
Like you can't be trying to show the other team up by scoring more runs?
Personally I don't have a problem with it - but is this one of the unwritten rules?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 19, 2021 10:45:30 GMT
Question for the baseball gurus
What percentage of players do you think are given free will at the plate
i.e. - you're not sending Bryce Harper and Mike Trout instructions on whether to take a pitch or not - you'd think they're seasoned and elite enough at this point to know the game and are given carte blanche to do what they want at the plate, no? I mean wouldn't it be disrespectful to give Trout/Harper a 'greenlight'? That's why they've got those massive contracts, no?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 11:13:33 GMT
Didn't he get a sign to take the pitch? Maybe I'm off Maybe La Russa felt it was disrespectful of the kid too that he was ignoring what he was supposed to do
** Edit - maybe he though it was disrespectful too he was swinging for the fences in a blowout game
Do baseball old timers view this as pretty much as an NBA player shooting a 3 pointer late in the game when they're up by 30?
Like you can't be trying to show the other team up by scoring more runs?
Personally I don't have a problem with it - but is this one of the unwritten rules?
It was late in the game and the White Sox already had 16 runs and were leading the Twins by double digits. The Twins had a position player pitching and he lobbed a 3-0 pitch up there at like 47 miles per hour. Mercedes teed off on it. The unwritten rule says that’s showing up the other team, like stealing a base when you have a big lead. That’s a huge no no in La Russa’s book. So La Russa publicly trashed his own player. God I hate that drunken bastard. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on May 19, 2021 11:17:27 GMT
I was just reading up on this 'kid' Turns out he is actually 28 years old and has been a journeyman Here's his quote - “I’m going to play like that. I’m Yermín,” he told reporters. “I can’t be another person because if I change it, everything is going to change. We’re just having fun. It’s baseball.” Screw him ( but i like that kind of attitude if he was on my team  ) |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 12:09:29 GMT
I was just reading up on this 'kid' Turns out he is actually 28 years old and has been a journeyman Here's his quote - “I’m going to play like that. I’m Yermín,” he told reporters. “I can’t be another person because if I change it, everything is going to change. We’re just having fun. It’s baseball.” Screw him ( but i like that kind of attitude if he was on my team ) If La Russa wants to institute a mercy rule he should go coach a little league team. Fuck that guy. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 19, 2021 12:15:55 GMT
Didn't he get a sign to take the pitch? Maybe I'm off Maybe La Russa felt it was disrespectful of the kid too that he was ignoring what he was supposed to do
** Edit - maybe he thought it was disrespectful too he was swinging for the fences in a blowout game
Do baseball old timers view this as pretty much as an NBA player shooting a 3 pointer late in the game when they're up by 30?
Like you can't be trying to show the other team up by scoring more runs?
Personally I don't have a problem with it - but is this one of the unwritten rules?
Never understood any of this logic. Why not shoot threes up 30? The other team is already pissed that they're having a bad night, what do you think is bound to happen if you dump it down low and let the big guys bang around? It's a recipe for trouble. Shoot the lower percentage shot that's less likely to result in direct confrontation, that seems more respectful to me. As far as running up the score, in any professional sport. Fuck you, take your beating like a man. You're making six figures at the minimum to play a game. College kids get their doors blown off in lopsided games all the time and nobody bats an eye. That's just how it's done, you have to impress to climb up in the polls. But grown men making millions playing professionally? We should definitely be concerned for their feelings.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 12:23:21 GMT
If La Russa is such a North Star for the integrity of the game, how come nearly every juicer played under his watch?
There really is nothing in this life that I hate more than hypocrisy. Walk the fucking walk if you’re going to talk the talk. And stay off the road before you kill somebody.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on May 19, 2021 12:48:16 GMT
brian 'unwritten rule' mccann needs to write a book with all the unwritten rules so players know what to do. this can be the cover:  |
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 19, 2021 13:11:03 GMT
This has been discussed in various publication and it's a take I 100% agree with - What's really bullshit about La Russa here is that Mercedes is 28 years old and has toiled in the minors and random ass Mexican leagues like Eastbound and Down for the past 10 years. He's on a 1-year deal with the Sox at basically a rookie rate. He's also heading into arbitration after this season for the first time in his career and what he ultimately gets in arbitration will be determined by his counting stats. His average, his RBI and yes, his HR. It doesn't matter whether he hits those homers off Gerrit Cole or a position player.
So fuck La Russa, he should care about his player first, and the Twins collective sensibilities second. If anything, the Twins insulted the game by waiving the white flag. Whatever happened to "it aint over till it's over?"
Of course, the Twins announcers had their anal period when it happened. And the next night, the Twins deliberately beaned Mercedes. Bunch of pussies. It's not Yermin's fault that the Twins have been playing like fermented garbage.
Oh, and get this, after that game....La Russa said he didn't have a problem with them beaning his own player because they didn't throw at his head. Wow.
Literally everyone involved here, except Yermin Mercedes, has embarrassed themselves.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 13:17:44 GMT
I agree with La Russa but not the way he behaved Talk with him behind closed doors Like Giradi/Segura No need to air that stuff out in public with/for the media/fans How can you of all people, the guy who wants entertainment above all else, possibly take La Russa’s side? How can you of all people take the “get off my lawn” side when literally every other post in your history suggests you’re a fan of the other side of this argument? |
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Post by klawrencio79 on May 19, 2021 13:23:59 GMT
I agree with La Russa but not the way he behaved Talk with him behind closed doors Like Giradi/Segura No need to air that stuff out in public with/for the media/fans How can you of all people, the guy who wants entertainment above all else, possibly take La Russa’s side? How can you of all people take the “get off my lawn” side when literally every other post in your history suggests you’re a fan of the other side of this argument? It's contrary to your take.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 13:29:46 GMT
How can you of all people, the guy who wants entertainment above all else, possibly take La Russa’s side? How can you of all people take the “get off my lawn” side when literally every other post in your history suggests you’re a fan of the other side of this argument? It's contrary to your take. That was my first guess. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 19, 2021 13:40:01 GMT
How can you of all people, the guy who wants entertainment above all else, possibly take La Russa’s side? How can you of all people take the “get off my lawn” side when literally every other post in your history suggests you’re a fan of the other side of this argument? It's contrary to your take. It's gotten to the point where you can actually hear the gears turning when Frogs posts. "Public sentiment is leaning this way? I'll go the other direction." I'm glad he does it, he keeps the board active. But I'd get bored making disingenuous arguments all the time.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 19, 2021 13:46:01 GMT
Swing away. Otherwise just call the game as a forfeit.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 19, 2021 15:49:29 GMT
If La Russa is such a North Star for the integrity of the game, how come nearly every juicer played under his watch? There really is nothing in this life that I hate more than hypocrisy. Walk the fucking walk if you’re going to talk the talk. And stay off the road before you kill somebody. Here, here. Especially with the holier than thou ones.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 19, 2021 16:07:56 GMT
It's contrary to your take. It's gotten to the point where you can actually hear the gears turning when Frogs posts. "Public sentiment is leaning this way? I'll go the other direction." I'm glad he does it, he keeps the board active. But I'd get bored making disingenuous arguments all the time. It's why he likes guys like Skip Bayless so much. Both are Sophists.
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Post by hehatesshe on May 19, 2021 17:05:25 GMT
If you don't want to run up the score (not that there's anything wrong with that, for all the reasons already listed), then take your god damn starters out! It's the 9th inning, put in a damn pitcher to bat against the damn hitter if you would be this butt hurt over a 9th inning home run.
"Lance has a locker, I have an office. I disagree with him."
Goooooooo away and let me enjoy my team. The Process is complete, was a success, and we are in first place. Why are we letting an 80 year old coach fuck it up???
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Post by Winston Wolfe on May 19, 2021 17:17:28 GMT
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