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Post by Xeliou66 on May 19, 2021 17:34:26 GMT
Fuck Tony La Russa. He’s a dinosaur, and it’s because of dinosaurs like him that baseball has trouble attracting younger viewers. The whole “unwritten rules” thing is total bullshit, teams should play their hardest every play and not stop until the game is over. Mercedes did nothing wrong and shouldn’t apologize for anything, and La Russa, and anyone at the Twins who’s offended, can go fuck themselves, and La Russa is a disgrace for not sticking up for his player.
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Post by NJtoTX on May 19, 2021 18:03:48 GMT
I've seen plenty of guys swing at an eephus and miss embarrassingly. If you're going to disrespect the game by putting a guy out there who can barely throw pitches, it's fair game.
Maybe Tony will decide to not put a guy at 2nd in extras for the respect of the game.
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Post by millar70 on May 19, 2021 19:21:39 GMT
There is something to be said about not kicking someone when they are already down. If that makes me sound like a cranky old man, then so be it. I guess the era that I learned about this kind of stuff was a little classier than where we are at now, and I refuse to be embarrassed for embracing older, better ideals than what is currently the trend.
However, I will say that when a team puts in a position player to pitch, then maybe all bets are off. The game has already been altered into something goofy, so if a player wants to launch, I'm cool with that.
As far as Larussa goes, while I can understand where he is coming from, the fact that he publicly threw his own player under the bus was a total douchebag move. Not too surprising though, Tony Larussa has ALWAYS been a douchebag.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 19:26:17 GMT
There is something to be said about not kicking someone when they are already down. If that makes me sound like a cranky old man, then so be it. I guess the era that I learned about this kind of stuff was a little classier than where we are at now, and I refuse to be embarrassed for embracing older, better ideals than what is currently the trend. However, I will say that when a team puts in a position player to pitch, then maybe all bets are off. The game has already been altered into something goofy, so if a player wants to launch, I'm cool with that. As far as Larussa goes, while I can understand where he is coming from, the fact that he publicly threw his own player under the bus was a total douchebag move. Not too surprising though, Tony Larussa has ALWAYS been a douchebag. Yeah, my biggest gripe is La Russa’s public reaction to this. I never liked him anyway but come on, it’s baseball, it’s not the Senate. |
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Post by millar70 on May 19, 2021 19:33:27 GMT
There is something to be said about not kicking someone when they are already down. If that makes me sound like a cranky old man, then so be it. I guess the era that I learned about this kind of stuff was a little classier than where we are at now, and I refuse to be embarrassed for embracing older, better ideals than what is currently the trend. However, I will say that when a team puts in a position player to pitch, then maybe all bets are off. The game has already been altered into something goofy, so if a player wants to launch, I'm cool with that. As far as Larussa goes, while I can understand where he is coming from, the fact that he publicly threw his own player under the bus was a total douchebag move. Not too surprising though, Tony Larussa has ALWAYS been a douchebag. Yeah, my biggest gripe is La Russa’s public reaction to this. I never liked him anyway but come on, it’s baseball, it’s not the Senate. I'm seriously considering starting a thread dedicated to how horrible Tony Larussa really is, and how much damage he has actually done to the game of baseball, but that would require me to have to think and write about Tony Larussa. It's my day off, and I want to enjoy it. Maybe later this week when I'm in work mode and already kind of grumpy. There are a LOT of examples of why Larussa is to baseball what Joe Biden has been to politics. (Sorry, had to slip that in 😉) |
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Post by Shane Falco on May 19, 2021 21:52:52 GMT
I had no clue this was even an unwritten rule until last year when there was an issue with Tatis Jr hitting a grand slam on a 3-0 count while the Padres were up big. He celebrated like one would only to then look like a kid being scolded by his parent in the dugout after. Baseball has far too many unwritten rules how can anyone keep track?
La Russa can fuck all the way off. One of your top priorities as a manager is to have your players back. Make them feel supported even if they are struggling or in the wrong. Don't throw them under the bus publicly as if you have some sort of moral high ground. What a way to completely destroy a guys confidence. Maybe that homer got his confidence up? Instead, it makes him feel horrible and could kill said confidence at the plate.
Baseball should be fun. Its refreshing to see these younger kids celebrating and even better when you hear pitchers like Bauer saying "do it, if I strike you out im gonna flex so if you hit a homer off me go for it" instead of pitchers being damn near offended by it. La Russa is the type that is holding baseball back from appealing to a younger audience, but I imagine that's what he wants.
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Post by NJtoTX on May 19, 2021 21:59:57 GMT
Something I don't get. I get it when you retaliate by beaning a guy. But if you obviously throw behind the batter, shouldn't that just be considered a message? Why toss a pitcher for that?
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Post by tristramshandy on May 19, 2021 22:03:47 GMT
There is something to be said about not kicking someone when they are already down. If that makes me sound like a cranky old man, then so be it. I guess the era that I learned about this kind of stuff was a little classier than where we are at now, and I refuse to be embarrassed for embracing older, better ideals than what is currently the trend. However, I will say that when a team puts in a position player to pitch, then maybe all bets are off. The game has already been altered into something goofy, so if a player wants to launch, I'm cool with that. As far as Larussa goes, while I can understand where he is coming from, the fact that he publicly threw his own player under the bus was a total douchebag move. Not too surprising though, Tony Larussa has ALWAYS been a douchebag. If I'm on a team that is up big, the only way that I'm not going to try my hardest to get a hit is if I'm told the outs will not be used against my stats. It's not like guys were bunting or trying to steal bases with the game at such a run discrepancy. Swinging at the ball is pretty essential to playing the game of baseball.
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Post by millar70 on May 19, 2021 22:23:11 GMT
There is something to be said about not kicking someone when they are already down. If that makes me sound like a cranky old man, then so be it. I guess the era that I learned about this kind of stuff was a little classier than where we are at now, and I refuse to be embarrassed for embracing older, better ideals than what is currently the trend. However, I will say that when a team puts in a position player to pitch, then maybe all bets are off. The game has already been altered into something goofy, so if a player wants to launch, I'm cool with that. As far as Larussa goes, while I can understand where he is coming from, the fact that he publicly threw his own player under the bus was a total douchebag move. Not too surprising though, Tony Larussa has ALWAYS been a douchebag. If I'm on a team that is up big, the only way that I'm not going to try my hardest to get a hit is if I'm told the outs will not be used against my stats. It's not like guys were bunting or trying to steal bases with the game at such a run discrepancy. Swinging at the ball is pretty essential to playing the game of baseball. I think the big gripe was him swinging at a 3-0 pitch. No one is saying not to swing hard, that would be unnatural for a player. However, in a 16-4 game in the 9th inning, maybe you just go ahead and take a pitch on 3-0. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 19, 2021 22:41:25 GMT
If I'm on a team that is up big, the only way that I'm not going to try my hardest to get a hit is if I'm told the outs will not be used against my stats. It's not like guys were bunting or trying to steal bases with the game at such a run discrepancy. Swinging at the ball is pretty essential to playing the game of baseball. I think the big gripe was him swinging at a 3-0 pitch. No one is saying not to swing hard, that would be unnatural for a player. However, in a 16-4 game in the 9th inning, maybe you just go ahead and take a pitch on 3-0. If you’re a player, would you want to hear your manager telling the media that he had no problem with the other team trying to bean you regardless of what you may have done in the field? If I’m that player I call La Russa out publicly and swing at every 3-0 pitch I see until I die. In terms of personality, La Russa makes Belichick seem like Bobcat Goldthwait. |
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Post by hehatesshe on May 20, 2021 0:34:19 GMT
If I'm on a team that is up big, the only way that I'm not going to try my hardest to get a hit is if I'm told the outs will not be used against my stats. It's not like guys were bunting or trying to steal bases with the game at such a run discrepancy. Swinging at the ball is pretty essential to playing the game of baseball. I think the big gripe was him swinging at a 3-0 pitch. No one is saying not to swing hard, that would be unnatural for a player. However, in a 16-4 game in the 9th inning, maybe you just go ahead and take a pitch on 3-0. But 3-0 is likely to be the best pitch you see. Why put yourself in position to get an out, lowering all of your statistics? Call the mercy rule in the 8th. Don't tell my players to go easy on the opponent. |
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Post by tristramshandy on May 20, 2021 1:36:06 GMT
If I'm on a team that is up big, the only way that I'm not going to try my hardest to get a hit is if I'm told the outs will not be used against my stats. It's not like guys were bunting or trying to steal bases with the game at such a run discrepancy. Swinging at the ball is pretty essential to playing the game of baseball. I think the big gripe was him swinging at a 3-0 pitch. No one is saying not to swing hard, that would be unnatural for a player. However, in a 16-4 game in the 9th inning, maybe you just go ahead and take a pitch on 3-0. I think I heard the stat today that in the last 255 at bats where a player had a 3-0 count and his team was up by ten or more runs, the batter did take that next pitch, so your point makes sense.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on May 20, 2021 1:46:25 GMT
i want answers.
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Post by hehatesshe on May 20, 2021 2:23:20 GMT
I think the big gripe was him swinging at a 3-0 pitch. No one is saying not to swing hard, that would be unnatural for a player. However, in a 16-4 game in the 9th inning, maybe you just go ahead and take a pitch on 3-0. I think I heard the stat today that in the last 255 at bats where a player had a 3-0 count and his team was up by ten or more runs, the batter did take that next pitch, so your point makes sense. Has there been that many in that situation since Tatis last year? Or was Tatis last year not 10 run game? |
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Post by tristramshandy on May 20, 2021 2:39:25 GMT
I think I heard the stat today that in the last 255 at bats where a player had a 3-0 count and his team was up by ten or more runs, the batter did take that next pitch, so your point makes sense. Has there been that many in that situation since Tatis last year? Or was Tatis last year not 10 run game? I'm guessing it's got to be the latter, but I remember that controversy too - - maybe it was some 9-1 type game.
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Post by hehatesshe on May 20, 2021 2:45:31 GMT
Has there been that many in that situation since Tatis last year? Or was Tatis last year not 10 run game? I'm guessing it's got to be the latter, but I remember that controversy too - - maybe it was some 9-1 type game. Yeah, it was 10-3 in the 8th. |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 27, 2021 0:28:51 GMT
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jun 27, 2021 1:24:54 GMT
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jun 27, 2021 1:52:24 GMT
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jun 27, 2021 1:56:04 GMT
Fun fact: Mercedes has been ass ever since this happened.
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