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Post by lune7000 on May 20, 2021 21:00:58 GMT
I saw a classic British film that had a flashback in it with a ventriloquist who seemed to be controlled by his puppet. It was made during the 1950's I believe. I also saw a Talking Tina evil doll on Twilight Zone early 60's. Then there was a movie called the Devil Doll (1936) which had real humans that were miniaturized (but not actual dolls).
Are there any other classic antecedents to Chucky?
What is the earliest? I have to think silent film may have touched on this some way. The Golem seems more like a monster than doll.
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Post by manfromplanetx on May 20, 2021 22:06:47 GMT
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Post by london777 on May 20, 2021 22:09:19 GMT
I saw a classic British film that had a flashback in it with a ventriloquist who seemed to be controlled by his puppet. This was no doubt Dead of Night (1945), a portmanteau film from various directors, from which the ventriloquist section is the most celebrated and influential. It was directed by Alberto Cavalcanti and starred Michael Redgrave as the ventriloquist. 
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Post by bravomailer on May 20, 2021 23:47:41 GMT
Not the original by any means but the doll in Trilogy of Terror with Karen Black might have been a proximate inspiration for Chucky.  |
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Post by Stammerhead on May 21, 2021 0:02:12 GMT
Special mention for the dolls in Barbarella…  |
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Post by Prime etc. on May 21, 2021 0:22:38 GMT
Devil Doll 1964 is another one.
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Post by london777 on May 21, 2021 1:15:48 GMT
The Dummy (2002) written and directed by Greg Pritikin and starring Adrian Brody. 
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Post by lune7000 on May 21, 2021 20:58:02 GMT
I sometimes wonder if the silent film era has covered most of the stories that were ever told (realizing that this film had sound)
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Post by manfromplanetx on May 21, 2021 21:31:32 GMT
The Unholy Three (1925) Silent Crime drama Directed by Tod Browning. Lon Chaney plays Prof. Echo, the ventriloquist who assumes the role of Mrs. O'Grady, a kindly old grandmother, who runs a pet shop... The film was remade in 1930 by Dir. Jack Conway, it was Chaney's last film, as well as his only talkie. Chaney died from throat cancer just one month after the film's release. 1925 
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Post by claudius on May 21, 2021 23:59:19 GMT
To be sure, the doll only appeared at the beginning and the end, and Chaney's character- although a crook- was probably the least 'Unholy' of the Three.
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Post by phantomparticle on May 22, 2021 1:50:10 GMT
Magic (1978) 
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Post by manfromplanetx on May 22, 2021 3:21:36 GMT
The excellent classic British TV series from the sixties The Avengers has a great episode featuring the creepy doll "Henrietta". Starring Patrick Macnee and Diana Rigg, How to Succeed ....At Murder was episode 25, season 4 which first aired in June 66. Running just under an hour the entertaining story tells of Henrietta's plan to destroy the patriarchy by replacing male CEOs with their female secretaries....  |
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Post by Prime etc. on May 22, 2021 5:44:10 GMT
A little earlier than the Golem was this film with a similar idea. It is a creature created by someone but maybe it is closer to Frankenstein in idea, or is Frankenstein the source for this story. I am trying to think of a mythology story that is similar--the Pygmalion story is very different since it has a happy ending. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus_(film) |
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Post by dirtypillows on May 22, 2021 7:13:06 GMT
Not the original by any means but the doll in Trilogy of Terror with Karen Black might have been a proximate inspiration for Chucky. I am not joking when I say that this was probably Karen Black's acting tour de force. I already think that Black was an excellent and incredibly under-rated actress, and I know this is a tv movie horror anthology, but she pulls off everything here. She's sexy, funny, scary and sad.
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Post by london777 on May 22, 2021 12:51:53 GMT
The name and idea of the homunculus first appeared in the West in the writings of Paracelsus, though similar concepts can be found in much older Arabic and Jewish writings. After Paracelsus the idea was mainly popularized through its appearance in various versions of the Doctor Faustus legend, especially that by Goethe.
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Post by bravomailer on May 22, 2021 17:54:16 GMT
Two more Twilight Zone episodes: The Dummy (with Cliff Robertson) and Caesar and Me (with Jackie Cooper).   |
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Post by Stammerhead on Jul 8, 2021 18:40:24 GMT
This isn’t a film but I saw this cover in a YouTube video and just had to include it in this thread.  |
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Post by frogarama on Jul 11, 2021 6:30:27 GMT
I saw a classic British film that had a flashback in it with a ventriloquist who seemed to be controlled by his puppet. This was no doubt Dead of Night (1945), a portmanteau film from various directors, from which the ventriloquist section is the most celebrated and influential. It was directed by Alberto Cavalcanti and starred Michael Redgrave as the ventriloquist. Are you aware that Dead Of Night's circular plot structure led the physicists Fred Hoyle, Hermann Bondi and Thomas Gold to devise their Steady State Model of the universe, a direct competitor to the Big Bang Theory?
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