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Post by mortsahlfan on May 26, 2021 18:33:30 GMT
They could be in love, too. But besides just being great, if we can try to list the lesser known gems, since most of us have probably seen "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" for example, but that movie is kinda beating a dead horse. The exploitation gets old after a while.
The best I can think of at the moment are:
-Buffalo '66
-A Woman Under The Influence
-Minnie and Moskowitz
-Fat City
-Last Tango In Paris
I also highly recommend the movie "Les Chat". Starring Jean Gabin. It's French for "the cat", and its about an older couple who can't stand each other. I don't wanna spoil anything, but the movie to me is an 8.5/10
The last two movies I have seen would be good examples, and just good movies like "Head-On" (7.5/10) about a young suicidal woman who wants to get away from her strict parents so she asks a guy she sees at the mental hospital if he would marry her.
Three days ago, I saw "The Honeymoon Killers" (7/10). They meet from a newspaper ad, and the woman sees that her "man" embezzles money from old woman who are tempted by this younger Latin guy, with the help of his "sister" his overweight girlfriend who is very insecure, which also placates any suspicion the women might have.
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Post by jcush on May 26, 2021 19:06:11 GMT
Phantom Thread
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Post by Cat on May 26, 2021 19:09:07 GMT
Cold War (2018)
I really liked Cold War. It brought into focus how much I like couples that are torn apart and brought back together by the universe. Some couples seem to go years, even a chunk of their own lifetime without each other and find their way back together. It makes me think they were really never apart, only separated.
That last line sounded better in my head.
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (1966)
Doesn't get much better than that. The revelation about their "son", the depths to which they hurt, scorn each other but can't live without each other. That relationship reminded me of the analogy of the entangled porcupines. They can't be apart, yet their closeness is an exercise in being stabbed because of the quills.
Rashomon (1950)
It's still brilliant to me. This sequence of events set into motion by a gust of wind in the forest revealed a dangerously toxic doomed-to-fail relationship. A simple crime turned complicated because they're all self-loathing frauds. It makes you wonder about how their relationship came to be.
It's just such a contrast to their otherwise picture perfect relationship. It seems like they secretly loathe each other, or themselves for going through the motions.
Gone Girl (2013)
So, the toxicity in their relationship speaks for itself because of the plot. The killer for me is quietly resigning themselves to each other at the end. That's where it got the most dark for me. To cuddle back into each other after all that, as well as the show they put on for the public.
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Post by politicidal on May 26, 2021 19:21:05 GMT
Sunset Boulevard (1950).
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Post by marianne48 on May 26, 2021 19:21:37 GMT
The Ref--Burglar Denis Leary hides out in the home of a married couple, then has to engage in some serious couples therapy when they turn on each other. Bonus: the wife's mother-in-law is there, too--it's the holiday season, after all.
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Post by kolchak92 on May 26, 2021 19:39:34 GMT
Days of Wine and Roses
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Post by Archelaus on May 26, 2021 20:06:40 GMT
Sid & Nancy
Natural Born Killers
What's Love Got to Do with It
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 26, 2021 20:25:34 GMT
Cold War (2018)
I really liked Cold War. It brought into focus how much I like couples that are torn apart and brought back together by the universe. Some couples seem to go years, even a chunk of their own lifetime without each other and find their way back together. It makes me think they were really never apart, only separated.
That last line sounded better in my head.
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (1966)
Doesn't get much better than that. The revelation about their "son", the depths to which they hurt, scorn each other but can't live without each other. That relationship reminded me of the analogy of the entangled porcupines. They can't be apart, yet their closeness is an exercise in being stabbed because of the quills.
Rashomon (1950)
It's still brilliant to me. This sequence of events set into motion by a gust of wind in the forest revealed a dangerously toxic doomed-to-fail relationship. A simple crime turned complicated because they're all self-loathing frauds. It makes you wonder about how their relationship came to be.
It's just such a contrast to their otherwise picture perfect relationship. It seems like they secretly loathe each other, or themselves for going through the motions.
Gone Girl (2013)
So, the toxicity in their relationship speaks for itself because of the plot. The killer for me is quietly resigning themselves to each other at the end. That's where it got the most dark for me. To cuddle back into each other after all that, as well as the show they put on for the public.
I swear this is the 5th time today where people didn't read the first sentence.
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Post by drystyx on May 26, 2021 20:29:59 GMT
What in the wide, wide world of sports is a "toxic couple"?
If it's a couple that has spats, that's about any couple in any movie.
If it's a couple that are evil, or preying upon other human beings who aren't as blessed, then there's no way the movie could be great to anyone but Beavis and Butthead and Al Bundy.
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Post by Cat on May 26, 2021 21:01:20 GMT
Cold War (2018)
I really liked Cold War. It brought into focus how much I like couples that are torn apart and brought back together by the universe. Some couples seem to go years, even a chunk of their own lifetime without each other and find their way back together. It makes me think they were really never apart, only separated.
That last line sounded better in my head.
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (1966)
Doesn't get much better than that. The revelation about their "son", the depths to which they hurt, scorn each other but can't live without each other. That relationship reminded me of the analogy of the entangled porcupines. They can't be apart, yet their closeness is an exercise in being stabbed because of the quills.
Rashomon (1950)
It's still brilliant to me. This sequence of events set into motion by a gust of wind in the forest revealed a dangerously toxic doomed-to-fail relationship. A simple crime turned complicated because they're all self-loathing frauds. It makes you wonder about how their relationship came to be.
It's just such a contrast to their otherwise picture perfect relationship. It seems like they secretly loathe each other, or themselves for going through the motions.
Gone Girl (2013)
So, the toxicity in their relationship speaks for itself because of the plot. The killer for me is quietly resigning themselves to each other at the end. That's where it got the most dark for me. To cuddle back into each other after all that, as well as the show they put on for the public.
I swear this is the 5th time today where people didn't read the first sentence.
I read it, I just forgot it by the time I started typing because it's too strong an example to ignore. I watched it for the first time recently and I have never discussed it with anybody. It's not beating a dead horse for everybody.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 26, 2021 21:11:10 GMT
What in the wide, wide world of sports is a "toxic couple"? I assume it's like the War of the Roses
or that Simpsons episode with the guidance camp
"You're the queen of the Harpies! Here's your crown, your majesty!"
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Post by Archelaus on May 26, 2021 21:16:54 GMT
What in the wide, wide world of sports is a "toxic couple"? If it's a couple that has spats, that's about any couple in any movie. If it's a couple that are evil, or preying upon other human beings who aren't as blessed, then there's no way the movie could be great to anyone but Beavis and Butthead and Al Bundy. Another word for "toxic relationships" is just emotional abuse. Frequent arguments is one feature, but it can expand to verbal, substance, and physical abuse, gaslighting, codependency, and other factors. This types of behavior lead to an individual lacking self-esteem, developing psychological problems, or feeling trapped in the relationship.
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Post by drystyx on May 26, 2021 21:41:59 GMT
What in the wide, wide world of sports is a "toxic couple"? If it's a couple that has spats, that's about any couple in any movie. If it's a couple that are evil, or preying upon other human beings who aren't as blessed, then there's no way the movie could be great to anyone but Beavis and Butthead and Al Bundy. Another word for "toxic relationships" is just emotional abuse. Frequent arguments is one feature, but it can expand to verbal, substance, and physical abuse, gaslighting, codependency, and other factors. This types of behavior lead to an individual lacking self-esteem, developing psychological problems, or feeling trapped in the relationship. Has there ever been a couple without some emotional abuse? Even in movies? Even THE SEARCHERS could be said to have emotional abuse with Ethan being an interest to his brother's wife. Does "toxic" mean a certain level of abuse? I am one of those people with no psychic ability to know the answer.
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Post by Archelaus on May 26, 2021 22:37:09 GMT
Another word for "toxic relationships" is just emotional abuse. Frequent arguments is one feature, but it can expand to verbal, substance, and physical abuse, gaslighting, codependency, and other factors. This types of behavior lead to an individual lacking self-esteem, developing psychological problems, or feeling trapped in the relationship. Has there ever been a couple without some emotional abuse? Even in movies? Even THE SEARCHERS could be said to have emotional abuse with Ethan being an interest to his brother's wife. Does "toxic" mean a certain level of abuse? I am one of those people with no psychic ability to know the answer. You have to think in terms of psychology. If the relationship is damaging one's emotional health (in how they communicate, act around people, or cope with their feelings), then, it's toxic. A normal couple can have arguments, but still love each other. I don't think the level of abuse can't be generally defined because relationship dynamics work differently from others.
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Post by vegalyra on May 27, 2021 1:39:08 GMT
Probably one of the most over the top films about this topic is X Y and Zee with Elizabeth Taylor, Michael Caine and Susannah York. After a drink or two it’s completely amazing how crazy it is.
Dirty Mary Crazy Larry is primarily a car chase film but Peter Fonda and Susan George have a major love hate thing going on. The lines are amazing such as Fonda calling George “Supercrotch” and threatening to “braid her tits.”
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Post by mgmarshall on May 27, 2021 2:31:13 GMT
Woody Allen's movies- particularly his more dramatic ones- are just rife with toxic relationships, the standouts for me being the two couples at the center of Husbands and Wives and Gena Rowlands and Ian Holm's unimaginably cold, loveless marriage in Another Woman.
Ace and Ginger are pretty much poison for each other from the word go in Casino.
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Post by drystyx on May 27, 2021 2:56:35 GMT
Has there ever been a couple without some emotional abuse? Even in movies? Even THE SEARCHERS could be said to have emotional abuse with Ethan being an interest to his brother's wife. Does "toxic" mean a certain level of abuse? I am one of those people with no psychic ability to know the answer. You have to think in terms of psychology. If the relationship is damaging one's emotional health (in how they communicate, act around people, or cope with their feelings), then, it's toxic. A normal couple can have arguments, but still love each other. I don't think the level of abuse can't be generally defined because relationship dynamics work differently from others. Okay, in that case my top nominees are THE LION IN WINTER, THE STRANGER, and DOUBLE INDEMNITY
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Post by darkpast on May 27, 2021 3:04:31 GMT
The Muppet Movies ? Miss Piggie is an abuser
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Post by SIRIUS on May 27, 2021 3:22:16 GMT
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Post by mortsahlfan on May 27, 2021 16:42:18 GMT
There's always some conflict with every couple in a movie. I've never seen a movie with ZERO conflicts. Toxic is a well-defined word. If I make some more money, I promise to buy everyone in the world a PAPERBACK dictionary.
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