basmaticathury
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Post by basmaticathury on Jun 3, 2021 19:58:39 GMT
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 3, 2021 20:52:43 GMT
Bezos and Blofeld. They're the same person.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 3, 2021 20:53:32 GMT
Maybe not destroy, but pillage and plunder.
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Downey
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Post by Downey on Jun 3, 2021 20:59:46 GMT
The Bond family have already assured fans of more cinematic releases there's not really much else that can be done. Looking at the other movies and franchises Amazon have also purchased in the MGM deal they're nowhere near as powerful as Bond, so while I understand the discomfort with Amazon he's just going to have to sit tight on this. Could the current Bond films do with more American characters?... Maybe.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 3, 2021 21:09:31 GMT
Are they worried Amazon is going to dial back the wokeness?
I doubt they need to worry about that.
A transgender Moneypenny is a worthy follow-up to a black one--you got to keep the awakening going--and Bezos would probably give approval.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 3, 2021 21:09:35 GMT
Yes he is.
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Downey
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Post by Downey on Jun 3, 2021 21:16:29 GMT
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Post by Jason143 on Jun 3, 2021 21:53:39 GMT
Bonds time is up sooner or later regardless. A toxic white male womanizer is a dying breed in entertainment these days.
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Downey
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Post by Downey on Jun 3, 2021 21:56:28 GMT
Bonds time is up sooner or later regardless. A toxic white male womanizer is a dying breed in entertainment these days. Really? Which is why the last Bond took a billion at the box office because his "time is up". Lol. And how is he toxic? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2021 21:59:19 GMT
They might veto copying a twist from Austin Powers in Goldmember?
Seriously, you wrote Spectre. Shut the fuck up.
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Post by thebayharborbutcher on Jun 4, 2021 3:30:21 GMT
They’ve made like what 27 Bond movies? I don’t see how Amazon can exploit it anymore than it already has been. I feel like any type of jumping the shark moment would have been made by now.
I also doubt they will go direct to streaming with Bond. Streaming films are generally for movies that might not do quite as well at the box office. Not bad movies per say, but movies that would struggle to find the right or big enough audience. As of right now, Bond works for theaters. Not because it’s so special that it deserves some magical theatrical release, but because it can make money there.
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Post by jonesjxd on Jun 4, 2021 10:31:06 GMT
I'm a lifelong James Bond fan and in the past ten years or so I've kind of just accepted that right now is as good as things will ever be in the Bond franchise. There are still some Connery hold outs, but the general consensus is that Daniel Craig is the quintessential James Bond. Not only is he the best actor to ever play the role, he's the most physically fit and believable in the role. Also, just look at the movies in the Craig tenure. Casino Royale is really becoming the general consensus best movie in the franchise, sure, we can chalk Quantum of Solace up to just being an extended epilogue more than a stand alone movie, but then there's Skyfall, another that's generally in peoples top fives, and then Spectre, which has been a grower over the years and probably in my top ten. Honestly after No Time To Die, I don't know how interested I am in this franchise without Craig, and the general path carved out by Martin Campbell and Sam Mendes. I feel Amazon would have to go the auteur route and hire Christopher Nolan or Quentin Tarantino and give them complete control for me to even get a hint of excitement.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 4, 2021 10:43:51 GMT
Are they worried Amazon is going to dial back the wokeness? I doubt they need to worry about that. A transgender Moneypenny is a worthy follow-up to a black one--you got to keep the awakening going--and Bezos would probably give approval. Naomi Harris does play a good Moneypenny but it’s a shame Samantha Bond didn’t keep the role for a few more years even though they were making the character rather silly by the end of the Brosnan era. Does anyone miss Samantha Bliss?
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Post by Lux on Jun 4, 2021 11:20:41 GMT
I'm a lifelong James Bond fan and in the past ten years or so I've kind of just accepted that right now is as good as things will ever be in the Bond franchise. There are still some Connery hold outs, but the general consensus is that Daniel Craig is the quintessential James Bond. Not only is he the best actor to ever play the role, he's the most physically fit and believable in the role. Also, just look at the movies in the Craig tenure. Casino Royale is really becoming the general consensus best movie in the franchise, sure, we can chalk Quantum of Solace up to just being an extended epilogue more than a stand alone movie, but then there's Skyfall, another that's generally in peoples top fives, and then Spectre, which has been a grower over the years and probably in my top ten. Honestly after No Time To Die, I don't know how interested I am in this franchise without Craig, and the general path carved out by Martin Campbell and Sam Mendes. I feel Amazon would have to go the auteur route and hire Christopher Nolan or Quentin Tarantino and give them complete control for me to even get a hint of excitement. I'll give you Daniel Craig being the best stuntman Bond ever but to a drunk with very little knowledge of Bond is he the "best actor to have played the role" don't get it twisted. You think he's fit and that's fine, but don't over extend yourself into thinking he's a butch Lawrence of Arabia because he sure as fuck isn't. |
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Jun 4, 2021 11:40:27 GMT
Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson, the head honchos of EON Productions, hold approval/veto power over key aspects of the cinematic Bond franchise (casting, script, etc.) -- and Amazon understands this. To change that situation, Amazon would have to cough up more $$$ to buy Broccoli & Wilson out.
Other MGM franchises (such as the Pink Panther & Robocop) do not have such an arrangement.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 4, 2021 16:17:39 GMT
Naomi Harris does play a good Moneypenny but it’s a shame Samantha Bond didn’t keep the role for a few more years even though they were making the character rather silly by the end of the Brosnan era. Does anyone miss Samantha Bliss? I haven't read the books so I don't know who is more in line with it--the first obviously creates the biggest impression. I think Samantha Bond was too young and thus too close to a Bond girl from what I remember. I liked Bliss from the brief scene in License to Kill. They have to consider who the Bond actor is -- there's a chemistry issue involved. Or should be.
Maxwell was fine with Connery and Moore -I don't remember her having any interaction with Lazenby.
I did not know Harris was Moneypenny at first--from a trailer I saw--I thought she was an agent. She seemed more of an agent type than a secretary. I know that Ian Fleming supposedly said James Bond isn't a hero-but as I keep saying, it is very hard to eliminate a heroic sensibility in an adventure story. The audience expects it.
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Post by Lux on Jun 4, 2021 16:21:32 GMT
Naomi Harris does play a good Moneypenny but it’s a shame Samantha Bond didn’t keep the role for a few more years even though they were making the character rather silly by the end of the Brosnan era. Does anyone miss Samantha Bliss? I haven't read the books so I don't know who is more in line with it--the first obviously creates the biggest impression. I think Samantha Bond was too young and thus too close to a Bond girl from what I remember. I liked Bliss from the brief scene in License to Kill. They have to consider who the Bond actor is -- there's a chemistry issue involved. Or should be.
Maxwell was fine with Connery and Moore -I don't remember her having any interaction with Lazenby.
I did not know Harris was Moneypenny at first--from a trailer I saw--I thought she was an agent. She seemed more of an agent type than a secretary. I know that Ian Fleming supposedly said James Bond isn't a hero-but as I keep saying, it is very hard to eliminate a heroic sensibility in an adventure story. The audience expects it.
Samantha Bond was just the right age for Ms Moneypenny all the previous Moneypennys have been young and close to Bond's age. Moore grew old with his Moneypenny. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 4, 2021 16:33:42 GMT
Samantha Bond was just the right age for Ms Moneypenny all the previous Moneypennys have been young and close to Bond's age. Moore grew old with his Moneypenny. He was already old when he took the role-it would have been weirder to have a younger secretary. It was already weird with him and the bond girls---at his age. Less with Connery because people just seemed older in the 60s. The movie version worked on the supposition that she was not a Bond girl in type. There was irony to it. It was a little different with the Dalton era from what I remember because they were closer in age or at least it felt more reasonable in a match up.
I guess Samantha Bond was the right type for the Brosnan era especially since M was now gender swapped and older than the previous one.
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Post by Lux on Jun 4, 2021 16:40:14 GMT
Samantha Bond was just the right age for Ms Moneypenny all the previous Moneypennys have been young and close to Bond's age. Moore grew old with his Moneypenny. He was already old when he took the role-it would have been weirder to have a younger secretary. It was already weird with him and the bond girls---at his age. Less with Connery because people just seemed older in the 60s. The movie version worked on the supposition that she was not a Bond girl in type. There was irony to it. It was a little different with the Dalton era from what I remember because they were closer in age or at least it felt more reasonable in a match up.
I guess Samantha Bond was the right type for the Brosnan era especially since M was now gender swapped and older than the previous one.
Um Roger Moore wasn't old when he became Bond, in the long list of Area 51 investigative worthy comments from you on here over the years that's pretty high. Roger looked great with his Bond girls. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 4, 2021 16:52:46 GMT
Um Roger Moore wasn't old when he became Bond, in the long list of Area 51 investigative worthy comments from you on here over the years that's pretty high. Roger looked great with his Bond girls. He was in the 40s. I am not critiquing that he was picked-just pointing out that he was not young-looking.
Connery was about the same age as him so he was Bond much younger. Moore was a father with a midlife crisis in a movie just a couple of years earlier.
I just think Maxwell was fine for him --they were around the same age in appearance and their chemistry was about the same as between her and Connery. Same with Bernard Lee.
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