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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 0:16:40 GMT
I don’t go in for conspiracies but the reviews on IMDb are laughable. Every one of them says it’s a “Masterpiece” after just one episode. That’s what really takes the “fun out of things nowadays”: the extreme views that take over everything. No, it is not laughable. Entertainment is subjective. Not everyone will enjoy or see merit in the exact same things. I've wanted to see this TV series since it was announced. I just want everyone to have fun watching it and talk about the plot points here. But if you want to critique, which is fine, please so elsewhere so we don't have to defend our taste in TV shows. Chill, dude. It’s all good. All I’m saying is that I was checking to see some honest unbiased reviews to get a sense of how good the show is, and the original IMDb Loki page was spammed with phony 10/10 reviews by obvious shills that offered no substance to back their shill scores. That’s annoying.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 10, 2021 0:21:31 GMT
That line is Loki basically saying the only person you can really trust is your self. He's talking about trusting your self, not loving somebody else, so I'm sure Mobius's quip about the t-shirt was just a coincidence. Hiddleston didn't wear a t-shirt saying "I trust myself." Yes, of course, you are right. How stupid of me to want to simply have some fun watching this TV show. Joy is no longer a thing. This is a discussion thread, for actual discussion. Ya wanna just "enjoy" the show without actually discussing or debating anything, this is not the thread for it.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 10, 2021 0:22:36 GMT
Now he's gone and just deleted his last several posts from this thread. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 0:25:31 GMT
Now he's gone and just deleted his last several posts from this thread. lol Paul is usually very friendly. I don’t know why he got so defensive today. We meant no harm.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 10, 2021 0:28:25 GMT
This is a discussion thread, for actual discussion. Ya wanna just "enjoy" the show without actually discussing or debating anything, this is not the thread for it. It is a sci-fi TV show. What is there to so serious to debate? If I want that, I'll stay on the politics board, 00killjoy. Such things as whether Loki's line at that point is an allusion to Hiddleston's real life.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 10, 2021 2:19:19 GMT
As far as first episodes go, I like this a lot more than Wandavision or TFATWS.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 10, 2021 2:39:46 GMT
Didn't have a problem with the flashbacks. This variant had to see how the original Loki ended up. We all knew that scene was coming, I thought they'd save it for much later in the series. He can't get there without recapping where he'd been up to that point. It's a deconstruction of the character, how are they not going to dredge up the past? It's the whole point.
One thing worth noting, Umbrella Academy also had a time keeping organization with a 50s/60s motif. Interesting how that is a recurring theme in these shows. An organization controlling time must be retro and futuristic at the same time; it's like pop culture can only go back as far as the 1950s before it seems of another era entirely.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 10, 2021 5:39:19 GMT
Such things as whether Loki's line at that point is an allusion to Hiddleston's real life. Debate implies winning an argument. I don't want to argue over who is right or wrong about the story or plot points or predictions or whether TH's TS shirt is being joked about or maybe it's just me. Neither one of us has to be right or wrong about anything. At least not in a spoiler discussion thread. I set up this thread for discussion about the show. I don't care what form that discussion takes. Discussion is discussion is discussion. If we're talking about the show, we're talking about the show. That's what matters to me. Not whether the discussion is positive or negative. You don't want to debate, don't debate. But I set up this thread for ALL forms of discussion.
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Post by James Bond on Jun 10, 2021 5:43:49 GMT
Didn't have a problem with the flashbacks. This variant had to see how the original Loki ended up. We all knew that scene was coming, I thought they'd save it for much later in the series. He can't get there without recapping where he'd been up to that point. It's a deconstruction of the character, how are they not going to dredge up the past? It's the whole point. One thing worth noting, Umbrella Academy also had a time keeping organization with a 50s/60s motif. Interesting how that is a recurring theme in these shows. An organization controlling time must be retro and futuristic at the same time; it's like pop culture can only go back as far as the 1950s before it seems of another era entirely. I don't feel they had to show us so much. Sure, show all that stuff to Loki, but we've seen it all. Can't they just allude to some of the stuff Loki's watching instead of making us watch him watch all of it?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 10, 2021 11:50:45 GMT
Didn't have a problem with the flashbacks. This variant had to see how the original Loki ended up. We all knew that scene was coming, I thought they'd save it for much later in the series. He can't get there without recapping where he'd been up to that point. It's a deconstruction of the character, how are they not going to dredge up the past? It's the whole point. One thing worth noting, Umbrella Academy also had a time keeping organization with a 50s/60s motif. Interesting how that is a recurring theme in these shows. An organization controlling time must be retro and futuristic at the same time; it's like pop culture can only go back as far as the 1950s before it seems of another era entirely. I don't feel they had to show us so much. Sure, show all that stuff to Loki, but we've seen it all. Can't they just allude to some of the stuff Loki's watching instead of making us watch him watch all of it? To each their own I guess, I thought it was good television. Though it does seem ridiculous that they'd show him scenes from Avengers considering it literally just happened from his perspective, they felt they needed to remind the audience where he's been so they get more invested on where he's going. I'm sure the entire audience hasn't seen the Avengers or the various other films as many times as I have. I see your point, it just didn't bother me as much.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 12:56:28 GMT
I was just looking at the reviews on IMDb. It’s literally dozens after dozens of 10/10s. I don’t doubt that people like the show, but I do wonder why super positive “reviews” always spam the internet for every single Disney IP regardless of actual quality. A bit suspicious. It was decent enough, just expected more. 7/10 for the pilot
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Post by Archelaus on Jun 10, 2021 19:01:20 GMT
Truth be told, I'm not that heavily interested in this series compared to WandaVision and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, but I'll tag along for the ride. As for the pilot, I give it a 7/10. Here's a few of my thoughts: - Owen Wilson and Tom Hiddleston have surprisingly good chemistry.
- I did like the TVA public service announcement narrated by "Miss Minutes", which was a nice throwback to UPA/Hanna-Barbera limited animation style from the 1950s and 1960s.
- The production design was another interesting retro throwback to 1970s office interiors.
- The bit where Loki was revealed to be D.B. Cooper was humorous.
- I didn't exactly like the throwaway gag of the Infinity Stones being used as paperweights, but the Infinity Saga is over so it's time to move on to new threats. Also, for a brief moment, you can see multiple Infinity Stones (especially the Time Stone) when Casey places the Tesseract inside a desk drawer.
- I'm guessing the looming threat that was teased at the end is Kang the Conqueror. I never read the comics, but from basic research, he involves himself with time travel.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 10, 2021 20:07:52 GMT
Here's a question I had about Loki being powerless in the TVA. Does it mean it only removed his magical powers or does it also remove his innate physical stats? I mean, this is a guy who can trade blows with Thor and has shrugged off full-powered hits from Captain America. Then now he's struggling with a beefy female TVA agent. And even if his strength and durability was reduced, I was still expecting to see far better fighting skills from him. Either those TVA agents are all superpowered in their own right or Loki's innate physical strength, toughness and skill have been removed. Or this series is again going to play fast and loose with power consistency.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jun 10, 2021 21:45:35 GMT
RT score: 95%
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 23, 2021 21:55:30 GMT
When I saw the first episodes, I said this was my current favorite MCU/Disney+ show yet. Then the 2nd episode came out, and I started doubting myself. Now after watching ep3, I have to say it just dropped to bottom place in my rankings. WTF did I just watch?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 24, 2021 4:14:04 GMT
Loki episode 1 - 9/10
So many corny moments, but you know what? They went for it. That is impressive to me. The setup for the story is so creative and fun. Easily the best TV show intro I’ve seen in a while.
The TVA is ridiculously over-powered, but they can fix that. I really like that first episode.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 24, 2021 5:21:13 GMT
When I saw the first episodes, I said this was my current MCU/Disney+ show yet. Then the 2nd episode came out, and I started doubting myself. Now after watching ep3, I have to say it just dropped to bottom place in my rankings. WTF did I just watch? Criticising the MCU? That’s troll talk. Shame on you.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 24, 2021 8:11:39 GMT
When I saw the first episodes, I said this was my current MCU/Disney+ show yet. Then the 2nd episode came out, and I started doubting myself. Now after watching ep3, I have to say it just dropped to bottom place in my rankings. WTF did I just watch? Criticising the MCU? That’s troll talk. Shame on you. I will gladly defend Thor:TDW, IM2 and AoU against criticisms because I feel like people are being unfairly harsh against them. However, these new MCU shows are getting unfairly praised and so I feel justified in criticizing them, even if a bit harshly. GOTG2, Captain Marvel and Endgame all fall in the same boat. They're decent movies but I feel people are praising them way too much that what they should.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 3:44:00 GMT
There is some good Loki + theory talk on here. In the Loki spoiler section. Check it out sakaar.freeforums.net/
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 30, 2021 2:13:59 GMT
Episodes 2 and 3 get worse, but I still like it. I like the visuals much more than most MCU projects, except the awful apocalyptic moon backgrounds. Those shots look so bad.
I have to say I’m getting a little tired of every main male character other than (pretty much) Cap being a clumsy-clown rag doll. By the third episode, Loki is pretty much like the court jester to Sylvie.
I suppose that’s just the writing for this franchise now. Some might like that, but I find it overdone and detrimental to actual character development. He’s a nitwit and outclassed by everyone both physically and strategically at every turn.
The audience needs something to hold onto for a main character (especially one that is technically coming off of his most sinister and powerful portrayal in the entire series chronologically). Loki is offering less and less to like and/or respect about its main character.
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