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Post by Skaathar on Jun 23, 2021 21:55:30 GMT
When I saw the first episodes, I said this was my current favorite MCU/Disney+ show yet. Then the 2nd episode came out, and I started doubting myself. Now after watching ep3, I have to say it just dropped to bottom place in my rankings. WTF did I just watch?
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 24, 2021 4:14:04 GMT
Loki episode 1 - 9/10
So many corny moments, but you know what? They went for it. That is impressive to me. The setup for the story is so creative and fun. Easily the best TV show intro I’ve seen in a while.
The TVA is ridiculously over-powered, but they can fix that. I really like that first episode.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 24, 2021 5:21:13 GMT
When I saw the first episodes, I said this was my current MCU/Disney+ show yet. Then the 2nd episode came out, and I started doubting myself. Now after watching ep3, I have to say it just dropped to bottom place in my rankings. WTF did I just watch? Criticising the MCU? That’s troll talk. Shame on you. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 24, 2021 8:11:39 GMT
When I saw the first episodes, I said this was my current MCU/Disney+ show yet. Then the 2nd episode came out, and I started doubting myself. Now after watching ep3, I have to say it just dropped to bottom place in my rankings. WTF did I just watch? Criticising the MCU? That’s troll talk. Shame on you. I will gladly defend Thor:TDW, IM2 and AoU against criticisms because I feel like people are being unfairly harsh against them. However, these new MCU shows are getting unfairly praised and so I feel justified in criticizing them, even if a bit harshly. GOTG2, Captain Marvel and Endgame all fall in the same boat. They're decent movies but I feel people are praising them way too much that what they should.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 3:44:00 GMT
There is some good Loki + theory talk on here. In the Loki spoiler section. Check it out sakaar.freeforums.net/ |
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Post by My NoRevisionism Pillow on Jun 26, 2021 20:49:17 GMT
I saw a sneak preview of the first scene:
Loki is sitting on a hemorrhoid donut and suffering a case of lockjaw because it was Fleet Week in San Francisco.....
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jun 30, 2021 2:13:59 GMT
Episodes 2 and 3 get worse, but I still like it. I like the visuals much more than most MCU projects, except the awful apocalyptic moon backgrounds. Those shots look so bad.
I have to say I’m getting a little tired of every main male character other than (pretty much) Cap being a clumsy-clown rag doll. By the third episode, Loki is pretty much like the court jester to Sylvie.
I suppose that’s just the writing for this franchise now. Some might like that, but I find it overdone and detrimental to actual character development. He’s a nitwit and outclassed by everyone both physically and strategically at every turn.
The audience needs something to hold onto for a main character (especially one that is technically coming off of his most sinister and powerful portrayal in the entire series chronologically). Loki is offering less and less to like and/or respect about its main character.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 30, 2021 3:20:39 GMT
Episodes 2 and 3 get worse, but I still like it. I like the visuals much more than most MCU projects, except the awful apocalyptic moon backgrounds. Those shots look so bad. I have to say I’m getting a little tired of every main male character other than (pretty much) Cap being a clumsy-clown rag doll. By the third episode, Loki is pretty much like the court jester to Sylvie. I suppose that’s just the writing for this franchise now. Some might like that, but I find it overdone and detrimental to actual character development. He’s a nitwit and outclassed by everyone both physically and strategically at every turn. The audience needs something to hold onto for a main character (especially one that is technically coming off of his most sinister and powerful portrayal in the entire series chronologically). Loki is offering less and less to like and/or respect about its main character. I have to agree. Loki in the original movies seemed devious. Mischievous but still conniving. Here he just goes from quirky to flat-out jester mode. You'd never have thought this was the same guy who ruthlessly took the eye out of a civilian just a few days ago. They did something similar to both Vision and Bucky though to lesser degrees. But for an android and a formerly brainwashed assassin, they certainly seemed quirkier in their shows than in the MCU movies. While this show hasn't gone past the point of no return yet, I do worry that by the end of this series, they would have done irreversible damage to Loki's character. |
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 30, 2021 22:37:02 GMT
Episodes 2 and 3 get worse, but I still like it. I like the visuals much more than most MCU projects, except the awful apocalyptic moon backgrounds. Those shots look so bad. I have to say I’m getting a little tired of every main male character other than (pretty much) Cap being a clumsy-clown rag doll. By the third episode, Loki is pretty much like the court jester to Sylvie. I suppose that’s just the writing for this franchise now. Some might like that, but I find it overdone and detrimental to actual character development. He’s a nitwit and outclassed by everyone both physically and strategically at every turn. The audience needs something to hold onto for a main character (especially one that is technically coming off of his most sinister and powerful portrayal in the entire series chronologically). Loki is offering less and less to like and/or respect about its main character. I have to agree. Loki in the original movies seemed devious. Mischievous but still conniving. Here he just goes from quirky to flat-out jester mode. You'd never have thought this was the same guy who ruthlessly took the eye out of a civilian just a few days ago. They did something similar to both Vision and Bucky though to lesser degrees. But for an android and a formerly brainwashed assassin, they certainly seemed quirkier in their shows than in the MCU movies. While this show hasn't gone past the point of no return yet, I do worry that by the end of this series, they would have done irreversible damage to Loki's character. It is possible that he is not the same guy.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 1, 2021 2:25:46 GMT
I have to agree. Loki in the original movies seemed devious. Mischievous but still conniving. Here he just goes from quirky to flat-out jester mode. You'd never have thought this was the same guy who ruthlessly took the eye out of a civilian just a few days ago. They did something similar to both Vision and Bucky though to lesser degrees. But for an android and a formerly brainwashed assassin, they certainly seemed quirkier in their shows than in the MCU movies. While this show hasn't gone past the point of no return yet, I do worry that by the end of this series, they would have done irreversible damage to Loki's character. It is possible that he is not the same guy. Nah it's the same guy. Mobius even mentions it in the first episode. |
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jul 1, 2021 2:28:21 GMT
It is possible that he is not the same guy. Nah it's the same guy. Mobius even mentions it in the first episode. You are no fun. 
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 1, 2021 4:48:16 GMT
I just got to say, among any MCU show, this has one of the worst action choreographies I've seen. Moving from what we got in TFATWS to this is a huge downgrade.
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Post by ReyKahuka on Jul 1, 2021 21:15:46 GMT
Has anyone mentioned that Loki moved an entire building in episode 3?! Anyone care to explain that one? The building starts to collapse on them, so Loki casually throws it the other way with his on again/off again telekinesis! Then he goes back to fist fighting guards. I'm truly puzzled here, because that kind of power could've come in handy when he was getting thrown around by Hulk. What's going on?
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 1, 2021 21:34:51 GMT
Has anyone mentioned that Loki moved an entire building in episode 3?! Anyone care to explain that one? The building starts to collapse on them, so Loki casually throws it the other way with his on again/of again telekinesis! Then he goes back to fist fighting guards. I'm truly puzzled here, because that kind of power could've come in handy when he was getting thrown around by Hulk. What's going on? The only way I've been able to make sense of this show's fight scenes are that they've dialed Loki's physical fighting skills to a 1 then dialed up his magic skills to an 8... though his magic is limited to only using it in random occurences outside of combat. Everytime he's in combat he'll resort to h2h fighting which he'll normally lose or struggle with. It's hard to imagine that this used to be the guy who could go toe to toe with Thor. |
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jul 2, 2021 2:51:45 GMT
Has anyone mentioned that Loki moved an entire building in episode 3?! Anyone care to explain that one? The building starts to collapse on them, so Loki casually throws it the other way with his on again/off again telekinesis! Then he goes back to fist fighting guards. I'm truly puzzled here, because that kind of power could've come in handy when he was getting thrown around by Hulk. What's going on? To show how powerful “tech savvy” (aka nerd) Loki is. More powerful than he himself realizes.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jul 2, 2021 3:00:34 GMT
Has anyone mentioned that Loki moved an entire building in episode 3?! Anyone care to explain that one? The building starts to collapse on them, so Loki casually throws it the other way with his on again/of again telekinesis! Then he goes back to fist fighting guards. I'm truly puzzled here, because that kind of power could've come in handy when he was getting thrown around by Hulk. What's going on? The only way I've been able to make sense of this show's fight scenes are that they've dialed Loki's physical fighting skills to a 1 then dialed up his magic skills to an 8... though his magic is limited to only using it in random occurences outside of combat. Everytime he's in combat he'll resort to h2h fighting which he'll normally lose or struggle with. It's hard to imagine that this used to be the guy who could go toe to toe with Thor. I think this is to show that without his magic and guile, Loki is not as strong as the average Asgardian, but then he isn’t an Asgardian. What’s only been touched upon in the narrative is how Lokis are agents of chaos that prevent the universes from smoothing out into totally predictable, unchanging order. Out of chaos comes new creation. Loki is a destroyer and a creator.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 2, 2021 4:02:53 GMT
The only way I've been able to make sense of this show's fight scenes are that they've dialed Loki's physical fighting skills to a 1 then dialed up his magic skills to an 8... though his magic is limited to only using it in random occurences outside of combat. Everytime he's in combat he'll resort to h2h fighting which he'll normally lose or struggle with. It's hard to imagine that this used to be the guy who could go toe to toe with Thor. I think this is to show that without his magic and guile, Loki is not as strong as the average Asgardian, but then he isn’t an Asgardian. What’s only been touched upon in the narrative is how Lokis are agents of chaos that prevent the universes from smoothing out into totally predictable, unchanging order. Out of chaos comes new creation. Loki is a destroyer and a creator. Loki was strong enough to manhandle Thor to a degree. Was easily overpowering Captain America in a purely physical fight. Had reflexes fast enough to catch an arrow without looking. Is outright bullet proof. Even without his magic and guile, Loki is an absolute beast of a fighter. Or at least he was. This series has completely removed that aspect of his movie version. |
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jul 2, 2021 10:11:26 GMT
I think this is to show that without his magic and guile, Loki is not as strong as the average Asgardian, but then he isn’t an Asgardian. What’s only been touched upon in the narrative is how Lokis are agents of chaos that prevent the universes from smoothing out into totally predictable, unchanging order. Out of chaos comes new creation. Loki is a destroyer and a creator. Loki was strong enough to manhandle Thor to a degree. Was easily overpowering Captain America in a purely physical fight. Had reflexes fast enough to catch an arrow without looking. Is outright bullet proof. Even without his magic and guile, Loki is an absolute beast of a fighter. Or at least he was. This series has completely removed that aspect of his movie version. He is a great fighter in his future self. How good is in Thor or the Avengers? Prior, he depends upon Gungnir or his spectre loaded up with an Infinity Stone for the big magic. I daresay his horned tiara gives him some power as well. Loki does admit to Möbius he is mostly magic bravado to hide his weaknesses.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jul 2, 2021 10:35:57 GMT
The comics down through the decades have presented various versions of the same characters. Sometimes these characters cross paths. The other Lokii haven’t been deleted from publication, they’re just in comic book limbo and trying to break out.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 2, 2021 14:50:16 GMT
Loki was strong enough to manhandle Thor to a degree. Was easily overpowering Captain America in a purely physical fight. Had reflexes fast enough to catch an arrow without looking. Is outright bullet proof. Even without his magic and guile, Loki is an absolute beast of a fighter. Or at least he was. This series has completely removed that aspect of his movie version. He is a great fighter in his future self. How good is in Thor or the Avengers? Prior, he depends upon Gungnir or his spectre loaded up with an Infinity Stone for the big magic. I daresay his horned tiara gives him some power as well. Loki does admit to Möbius he is mostly magic bravado to hide his weaknesses. He had his best fights in Thor and Avengers. He gave Thor a fight in both the first Thor movie and Avengers. He used his spear mostly as a melee weapon and didn't depend on its powers like you said. In Avengers he beat up Captain America in a purely physical fight. And while he used his scepter to mind control a few SHIELD agents, he still used mostly physical attacks to take them out. And again in Avengers, he caught Hawkeye's arrow in mid air without looking, got hit by a shoulder tackle from Hulk and immediately got back up, took a grenade to the face without injury, and was completely bulletproof. |
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