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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 19:25:26 GMT
Thoughts? Pandering to LGBT crowd? In the case file right at the beginning of the clip. Hopefully this isnt explored more in the actual show
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Post by ReyKahuka on Jun 8, 2021 19:54:37 GMT
It's happened in the comics, it isn't like they're making some kind of statement.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 20:08:20 GMT
It's happened in the comics, it isn't like they're making some kind of statement. Yeah he transforms but he is still male. The son of Laufey
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Post by DarkManX on Jun 8, 2021 20:39:23 GMT
I hope this isn't going to be another agenda pusher like Falcon and the Winter Solider was.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 8, 2021 21:27:37 GMT
As long as it's not handled as heavy-handedly as TFATWS was then it should be fine. That said, can sex actually be fluid? I thought it was gender that could be fluid?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 9, 2021 0:34:51 GMT
If you go all the way back to the thousands year old cultural myths, Loki's sex has always been fluid in that he can both father and mother offspring. Notice that it is his "sex" listed as fluid and not "gender." Therefore, Loki is what is known as in many myths an aeon both, which are both male and female and they can have children via parthenogenesis. Also, he's not a human being, so we have no idea what his DNA is. Rather than XY, he could be ZC.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 9, 2021 0:36:40 GMT
It's happened in the comics, it isn't like they're making some kind of statement. Yeah he transforms but he is still male. The son of Laufey And in the myths, Laufey is Loki's mother.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 9, 2021 0:39:41 GMT
As long as it's not handled as heavy-handedly as TFATWS was then it should be fine. That said, can sex actually be fluid? I thought it was gender that could be fluid? Yes, among mythical creatures found in many cultures, they're called hermaphrodites.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 9, 2021 1:58:39 GMT
As long as it's not handled as heavy-handedly as TFATWS was then it should be fine. That said, can sex actually be fluid? I thought it was gender that could be fluid? Yes, among mythical creatures found in many cultures, they're called hermaphrodites. Hermaphrodites are different from sex fluid. Sex fluid implies that you can switch from being one sex to the other, where you can go from being fully male to being fully female and everything in between, whereas a hermaphrodite is someone born with both male and female genitalia, and they can't exactly swing from being one or the other.
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Post by Marv on Jun 9, 2021 2:03:38 GMT
Loki takes on a female form for long stretches in the comics. She’s pretty hot too.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 9, 2021 2:04:54 GMT
I hope this isn't going to be another agenda pusher like Falcon and the Winter Solider was. ha ha ha ha ho
It's Disney so don't worry they never would sacrifice story for agendas
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 9, 2021 2:04:58 GMT
Yes, among mythical creatures found in many cultures, they're called hermaphrodites. Hermaphrodites are different from sex fluid. Sex fluid implies that you can switch from being one sex to the other, where you can go from being fully male to being fully female and everything in between, whereas a hermaphrodite is someone born with both male and female genitalia, and they can't exactly swing from being one or the other. Please keep in mind we are talking about a mythical creature, not a human being. Loki is a mythical hermaphrodite and can be both sexes at once. And consider that in most myths, there is either a single male or female from which all life springs. In that sense, Yahweh is the mother of all the living, though the Catholic Church has farmed out the avatar to the Virgin Mary.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jun 9, 2021 2:07:21 GMT
Loki takes on a female form for long stretches in the comics. She’s pretty hot too. 
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Post by Marv on Jun 9, 2021 2:11:22 GMT
Loki takes on a female form for long stretches in the comics. She’s pretty hot too. A scene from the Dark Avengers days...can’t remember what the group called themselves but they were the Anti Illuminati and the comic seemed to show a potential future where Doom eliminated the others and took Loki and Emma Frost as his slaves. ![]() abload.de/img/7brjq7.jpg |
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Jun 9, 2021 5:52:24 GMT
He did give birth to Odin's steed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 6:33:13 GMT
If you go all the way back to the thousands year old cultural myths, Loki's sex has always been fluid in that he can both father and mother offspring. Notice that it is his "sex" listed as fluid and not "gender." Therefore, Loki is what is known as in many myths an aeon both, which are both male and female and they can have children via parthenogenesis. Also, he's not a human being, so we have no idea what his DNA is. Rather than XY, he could be ZC. Ok but he's still male first and foremost. Fluid just refers to his ability. Just because he can turn into a woman doesnt mean he is one For example, if I had the ability to suddenly walk through walls and I can choose to use it or not, does that make me a ghost now?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 6:33:32 GMT
Yeah he transforms but he is still male. The son of Laufey And in the myths, Laufey is Loki's mother. Your point?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 6:35:04 GMT
He did give birth to Odin's steed. I guess when he transforms, it goes down to the biological level too. What was the reason for that?
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Jun 9, 2021 6:56:34 GMT
He did give birth to Odin's steed. I guess when he transforms, it goes down to the biological level too. What was the reason for that? In Norse mythology Loki transforms himself into a female horse to lure a frost giant's steed away and mates with them, giving birth to Sleipnir. This was adapted into Marvel comics, but not for the Marvel Cinematic Universe which also changed his fatherhood of Hela into brotherhood - She as well as the giant wolf that follows her around in the Ragnarok film is in mythology Loki's children. Loki also has two brides as well, one in Asgard the other in his native land.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 7:06:18 GMT
I guess when he transforms, it goes down to the biological level too. What was the reason for that? In Norse mythology Loki transforms himself into a female horse to lure a frost giant's steed away and mates with them, giving birth to Sleipnir. This was adapted into Marvel comics, but not for the Marvel Cinematic Universe which also changed his fatherhood of Hela into brotherhood - She as well as the giant wolf that follows her around in the Ragnarok film is in mythology Loki's children. Loki also has two brides as well, one in Asgard the other in his native land. Yeah I knew about Fenrir, and being the father of Hela (wasnt that a Loki of a parallel reality though?). Change to brotherhood is news though
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