lune7000
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Post by lune7000 on Jun 17, 2021 0:21:35 GMT
And by "villain", I don't mean a conflicted character with some bad traits, I mean someone who is so bad they are either arrested, killed or ruined at the end of the movie
John Wayne
Jimmy Stewart
Cary Grant
Erol Flynn
Clark Gable
Gary Cooper
Gregory Peck
William Powell
Charlton Heston
Fred Astair
David Niven
Gene Kelly
It has occurred to me that I have never seen any of these actors in the role of a true villain. Sometimes they play a protagonist with questionable character but never a true villain. But then, there are many movies I haven't seen yet.
It also seems to me that actresses are far more likely to role switch and play a villainess (Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, Barbara Stanwick, etc.)
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Post by Isapop on Jun 17, 2021 0:27:38 GMT
Gregory Peck as Dr. Josef Mengele in The Boys From Brazil.
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 17, 2021 0:31:06 GMT
The Duke is alternately villainous and heroic in The Searchers.
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Post by Isapop on Jun 17, 2021 0:34:32 GMT
And here's a scene I think you'll find interesting.
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Post by marshamae on Jun 17, 2021 0:40:39 GMT
DAVID Niven played a sex offender in Separate tables
Fred Astaire played a depressed alcoholic scientist in on the beach
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Post by Isapop on Jun 17, 2021 0:43:15 GMT
And then there's Christmas Holiday with Gene Kelly (yeah, that's the title). You can watch the whole movie on YouTube.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 17, 2021 0:44:34 GMT
Gene Kelly was a total bounder in "Christmas Holiday" (1944), a Christmas movie I like because there is not much Christmas in it. It is directed by film noir legend Robert Siodmak. Kelly was still trying to establish himself in Hollywood, hence this movie, his only performance as a dangerous bad man. He does not sing a note nor dance a step.  |
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 17, 2021 0:45:27 GMT
And then there's Christmas Holiday with Gene Kelly (yeah, that's the title). You can watch the whole movie on YouTube. Drat! You got in with Christmas Holiday less than a minute before me. Foiled again!
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Post by Isapop on Jun 17, 2021 0:48:42 GMT
And then there's Christmas Holiday with Gene Kelly (yeah, that's the title). You can watch the whole movie on YouTube. Drat! You got in with Christmas Holiday less than a minute before me. Foiled again! I WIN! I WIN!
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 17, 2021 0:53:18 GMT
Charlton Heston also played Mengele. MY FATHER 2003. It was his last role in fact.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 17, 2021 0:57:44 GMT
These three films are all 1931.
In "The Finger Points" only his sixth credited role, Clark Gable plays a mob boss.
In "Night Nurse" Gable is an evil chauffer who plans to marry the alcoholic rich lady and get all her money even if it means murdering her two children.
In "A Free Soul" an "A" Picture Oscar winner, Gable is yet another head gangster.
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Post by marshamae on Jun 17, 2021 1:01:26 GMT
Gene Kelly, like Frank Sinatra, was not a sweet man. He was depressed, competitive and aggressive. I like to see him in roles where he shows that side. Tyrone power, a genuinely nice man, also was really good in roles when he was a bounder
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 17, 2021 1:02:56 GMT
Jimmy Stewart is a criminal in Bandolero, though Dino is more the villain.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 17, 2021 1:06:03 GMT
I know this doesn't exactly fit your criteria, but I believe Cary Grant himself said the Hitchcock's "Notorious" was the closest he ever came to villainy. In the end, though, he isn't one.
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Post by Geddy on Jun 17, 2021 1:08:38 GMT
I guess if you're a native person you wouldn't think too highly of Errol Flynn in They Died With Their Boots On.
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Post by Isapop on Jun 17, 2021 1:10:23 GMT
I know this doesn't exactly fit your criteria, but I believe Cary Grant himself said the Hitchcock's "Notorious" was the closest he ever came to villainy. In the end, though, he isn't one. Or was he closer to villainy in "Suspicion"? It is a debatable point.
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Post by OldAussie on Jun 17, 2021 1:13:22 GMT
Gary Cooper - The Foutainhead - a "man of principle" who destroys a housing estate for low income people in a fit of pique. The jury acquits him......Ayn Rand was evil.
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Post by mikef6 on Jun 17, 2021 1:25:31 GMT
I know this doesn't exactly fit your criteria, but I believe Cary Grant himself said the Hitchcock's "Notorious" was the closest he ever came to villainy. In the end, though, he isn't one. Or was he closer to villainy in "Suspicion"? It is a debatable point. Well, he played a feckless playboy but suspected (hence the title) all the way through of murder but...was the suspicion correct? I ain't telling. The same is true of Gary Cooper's last movie, a British noir of all things, "The Naked Edge" (1961). His wife Deborah Kerr keeps finding indications that their fortune is due to his having committed a murder. Is she right? I won't tell and fire can't melt it out of me. It is a pretty good little movie. A low budget but a stellar cast and good script.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 17, 2021 1:34:10 GMT
No, they only played... Decent people.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 17, 2021 2:00:06 GMT
Gregory Peck as Dr. Josef Mengele in The Boys From Brazil.Hard to beat that.
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