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Post by darkpast on Jun 19, 2021 4:42:42 GMT
Or only one's bank account? I guess some can afford to do real films , and not worry about paying rent.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 19, 2021 9:30:16 GMT
Well it certainly helped the careers of the following:
RDJ
Chris Hemsworth
Chris Pratt
Tom Hiddleston
Scarjo
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jun 19, 2021 13:05:56 GMT
Why not both?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 19, 2021 20:43:31 GMT
Well it certainly helped the careers of the following: RDJ Chris Hemsworth Chris Pratt Tom Hiddleston Scarjo It certainly helped the nobodies become somebodies. I guess you could argue it helped RDJ in that it showed he can still do the job. But everything he's done outside of the MCU (other than Sherlock Holmes, another IP project and that was over a decade ago now) has been a failure. I don't think it did anything for Scarjo, she was already on an upward trajectory.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 19, 2021 21:35:31 GMT
Well it certainly helped the careers of the following: RDJ Chris Hemsworth Chris Pratt Tom Hiddleston Scarjo It certainly helped the nobodies become somebodies. I guess you could argue it helped RDJ in that it showed he can still do the job. But everything he's done outside of the MCU (other than Sherlock Holmes, another IP project and that was over a decade ago now) has been a failure. I don't think it did anything for Scarjo, she was already on an upward trajectory. Prior to being cast as Tony Stark, RDJ's career was going down the drain and nobody wanted to hire him for decent projects anymore. So while his other movies outside Ironman weren't exactly hits, the fact that he still got hired as well as got paid pretty heftily is due to the MCU helping restore respect to his name. As for Scarjo, she wasn't really a box office star before the MCU. She had a number of movies here and there but only The Island was a big enough movie. After getting cast in the MCU, blockbusters started to role in and she's now one of the highest paid female actors in the world. I don't think she would have managed that without the MCU.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 19, 2021 22:47:15 GMT
It certainly helped the nobodies become somebodies. I guess you could argue it helped RDJ in that it showed he can still do the job. But everything he's done outside of the MCU (other than Sherlock Holmes, another IP project and that was over a decade ago now) has been a failure. I don't think it did anything for Scarjo, she was already on an upward trajectory. Prior to being cast as Tony Stark, RDJ's career was going down the drain and nobody wanted to hire him for decent projects anymore. So while his other movies outside Ironman weren't exactly hits, the fact that he still got hired as well as got paid pretty heftily is due to the MCU helping restore respect to his name. As for Scarjo, she wasn't really a box office star before the MCU. She had a number of movies here and there but only The Island was a big enough movie. After getting cast in the MCU, blockbusters started to role in and she's now one of the highest paid female actors in the world. I don't think she would have managed that without the MCU. Agreed on RDJ, that was pretty much my take as well. I think Scarjo would've made it big either way, but MCU bankability certainly doesn't hurt your resume.
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 20, 2021 0:38:23 GMT
Prior to being cast as Tony Stark, RDJ's career was going down the drain and nobody wanted to hire him for decent projects anymore. So while his other movies outside Ironman weren't exactly hits, the fact that he still got hired as well as got paid pretty heftily is due to the MCU helping restore respect to his name. As for Scarjo, she wasn't really a box office star before the MCU. She had a number of movies here and there but only The Island was a big enough movie. After getting cast in the MCU, blockbusters started to role in and she's now one of the highest paid female actors in the world. I don't think she would have managed that without the MCU. Agreed on RDJ, that was pretty much my take as well. I think Scarjo would've made it big either way, but MCU bankability certainly doesn't hurt your resume. I think the best way for me to explain why I put Scarjo in there is to compare her to Chris Evans. Both of them were rising names in the movie industry when Marvel cast them, but Chris Evans was already doing blockbusters like F4, The Losers and Sunshine and a few more notable movies. His career definitely got a bump from his stint with the MCU but I didn't include him in the list because I feel like he would have eventually reached the same heights on his own. I didn't quite get that vibe from Scarjo. She felt like she was getting parts more for her being another pretty face. Sure she was starting to get bigger projects but she doesn't quite have the acting talent or charisma that Chris Evans has that would have made it easy to land harder roles. She might have made it big on her own, or she might have turned out like Jessica Alba or Jessica Biel who just kind of faded into obscurity after a brief flash in the spotlight.
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Post by darkpast on Jun 20, 2021 5:02:07 GMT
Well it certainly helped the careers of the following: RDJ Chris Hemsworth Chris Pratt Tom Hiddleston Scarjo Scarlett was already an established and respected actor , it just helped her bank account
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 20, 2021 6:44:28 GMT
Well it certainly helped the careers of the following: RDJ Chris Hemsworth Chris Pratt Tom Hiddleston Scarjo Scarlett was already an established and respected actor , it just helped her bank account Which movies of hers garnered her much respect prior to her MCU role?
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Post by darkpast on Jun 20, 2021 14:57:59 GMT
Scarlett was already an established and respected actor , it just helped her bank account Which movies of hers garnered her much respect prior to her MCU role? Woody Allen films and Lost In Translation
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Post by Marv on Jun 20, 2021 16:50:55 GMT
Of course. It can't hurt.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 20, 2021 19:10:00 GMT
It'll help them being known mostly for roles that aren't 'real' roles.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 20, 2021 19:59:46 GMT
Sure it helps their career because Disney will give them other films or open doors for them.
It's an investment for Marvel-Disney--this is the PR face for their projects.
Ed Norton probably suffered in his career because he rejected the Hulk series--caused them trouble.
It doesn't look like he's had that much of a career since.
However, other actors have said things dried up in the 2000s.
Billy Bob Thornton said it.
If you are a serious actor who believes in creative control or range then forget it.
Hollywood is far too restricted now to provide much opportunity for a range.
I wonder if the reason we don't see actors bankrolling their own films is because Hollywood won't let them.
The distribution side would prevent them from having access so it's a waste of money.
Or there are other disincentives.
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Post by Cat on Jun 20, 2021 20:10:50 GMT
I would imagine so. If you're on Disney's good side then it's good for your career. It means you have their dick to swing at the negotiating table.
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Post by Cat on Jun 20, 2021 20:22:28 GMT
Well it certainly helped the careers of the following: RDJ Chris Hemsworth Chris Pratt Tom Hiddleston Scarjo Scarlett was already an established and respected actor , it just helped her bank account Agreed. My the time the MCU rolled around she was already famous.
The MCU really helped RDJ. He's very talented but also near his third legal strike. American system, 3 strikes and you're done. The MCU put his credibility back on the map. Thor too was put on the map by these movies.
I actually agree with all of those except Scarlet Johannson (although it obviously didn't hurt) and RDJ, but only because the MCU launched him into the stratosphere. It didn't just help him, it made him immortal. Similarly with Chris Evans.
I'd also say Tom Holland, Batista (he was greatly helped, especially while transitioning from wrestling), Brie Larson (despite winning the Oscar, Captain Marvel is what made people realize Brie Larson's been working for ages, like playing opposite Ramona Flowers for a minute in Scott Pilgrim v the World).
A lot of people grew fat and popular off the MCU.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 21, 2021 0:17:58 GMT
It'll help them being known mostly for roles that aren't 'real' roles. What makes a role transcend beyond reality into unreality?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 21, 2021 14:54:36 GMT
Infinity Saga, yes. Future? Uncertain. It could be a hindrance one day.
Star Wars never even proved itself even with the prequel hype & Disney to follow, & those roles were supposed to be life changers.
Hayden Christenson & Daisy Ridley... might as well be your local Starbucks baristas.
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Post by Downey on Jun 21, 2021 18:16:49 GMT
Infinity Saga, yes. Future? Uncertain. It could be a hindrance one day. Star Wars never even proved itself even with the prequel hype & Disney to follow, & those roles were supposed to be life changers. Hayden Christenson & Daisy Ridley... might as well be your local Starbucks baristas. This is the second comment of yours to have made my head hurt like hell in as many hours. Daisy Ridley and Hayden have royalty cheques from the star wars films to cash for several lifetimes and funnily enough they're still remembered whether badly or rightly. |
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Post by Downey on Jun 21, 2021 18:20:32 GMT
It'll help them being known mostly for roles that aren't 'real' roles. Another brain numbing comment. Real roles? What did you reach out into the TV to touch RDJ as Iron Man and scream like crazy that he actually showed up for filming that day or what the fuck? |
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 21, 2021 18:49:46 GMT
Scarlett was already an established and respected actor , it just helped her bank account Agreed. My the time the MCU rolled around she was already famous.
Guess we have different definitions for the word "famous". Scarjo was a rising star prior to the MCU and she wasn't an unknown name like Hemsworth and Hiddleston, but I wouldn't exactly have called her famous. Famous would have been someone like Angelina Jolie at that time. A-Listers. Scarjo was about as "famous" as Kate Beckinsale or Jessica Biel. A known name, but not exactly a household name and not exactly someone who could easily get big projects. In fact she had to fight hard for the Black Widow role and wouldn't even have gotten it had Emily Blunt not declined the offer.
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