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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:21:34 GMT
Psycho - Inaccurately portrays the lives of transgender motel owners.  |
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:31:06 GMT
Between Bill Maher and Ricky Gervais, I wonder which “leftist” hates transgender people more? I don't think either hate transgender people. They hate what they see some of them doing and advocating for and the overly woke left advocating for on their behalf.
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Post by phantomparticle on Jun 20, 2021 21:31:11 GMT
My life is much happier for not recognizing that Maher and I share the same planet.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:31:59 GMT
My life is much happier for not recognizing that Maher and I share the same planet. My life is better with him in it.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 20, 2021 21:33:58 GMT
Between Bill Maher and Ricky Gervais, I wonder which “leftist” hates transgender people more? I don't think either hate transgender people. They hate what they see some of them doing and advocating for and the overly woke left advocating for on their behalf. Ricky Gervais went on a pretty nasty rant about transgender women a few weeks before he most recently hosted the Golden Globes, and instead of apologizing, he made fun of the people who got offended. As for Bill Maher, he’s made it pretty clear that he sees trans right as a joke. All in all, despite his claims that he’s a “liberal”, Maher aligns far more with Republicans than Democrats on a lot of key issues. |
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:37:04 GMT
I don't think either hate transgender people. They hate what they see some of them doing and advocating for and the overly woke left advocating for on their behalf. Ricky Gervais went on a pretty nasty rant about transgender women a few weeks before he most recently hosted the Golden Globes, and instead of apologizing, he made fun of the people who got offended. It’s for Bill Maher, he’s made it pretty clear that he sees trans right as a joke. I'd have to look into that myself. The joke about Psycho I don't see as having anything to do with disliking trans people though by itself and I agree with his point in regards to movie warnings. I agree with both on many things, but not everything. I guess I just haven't seen them talking about it in a way I necessarily disagree with, though I am certainly for trans rights. If you can point me to a specific videos I will watch them and judge for myself.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jun 20, 2021 21:38:04 GMT
Bill Maher is unbearably smug.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:39:33 GMT
Bill Maher is unbearably smug. That I might agree with, but his opposition comes off as equally if not more smug.
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Post by ck100 on Jun 20, 2021 21:39:35 GMT
I know he's not for everyone, but I like Bill Maher.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:40:31 GMT
I know he's not for everyone, but I like Bill Maher. 
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:44:09 GMT
I don't think either hate transgender people. They hate what they see some of them doing and advocating for and the overly woke left advocating for on their behalf. Ricky Gervais went on a pretty nasty rant about transgender women a few weeks before he most recently hosted the Golden Globes, and instead of apologizing, he made fun of the people who got offended. As for Bill Maher, he’s made it pretty clear that he sees trans right as a joke. All in all, despite his claims that he’s a “liberal”, Maher aligns far more with Republicans than Democrats on a lot of key issues. He seems more in the center to me. I think he is usually fair, but I like to watch this kind of stuff and pick apart what I agree with and don't agree with. My feelings on the trans rights issue is complicated in general.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 20, 2021 21:50:40 GMT
Ricky Gervais went on a pretty nasty rant about transgender women a few weeks before he most recently hosted the Golden Globes, and instead of apologizing, he made fun of the people who got offended. It’s for Bill Maher, he’s made it pretty clear that he sees trans right as a joke. I'd have to look into that myself. The joke about Psycho I don't see as having anything to do with disliking trans people though by itself and I agree with his point in regards to movie warnings. I guess I just haven't seen them talking about it in a way I necessarily disagree with, though I am certainly for trans rights. If you can point me to a specific video I will watch them and judge for myself. I’m not necessarily referring to the specific video you linked. Maher has made some belittling statements about trans issues in the past. In general, he’s made it clear that he thinks Democrats are wasting their time with that stuff. www.google.com/amp/s/decider.com/2019/10/26/bill-maher-slams-elizabeth-warren-dems-for-not-getting-binary-politics-commit-a-crime-and-your-new-vagina-is-free/amp/To be clear, I wouldn't say that I’m personally outraged about Bill Maher. I just think it’s apparent that for someone who identifies as a liberal, many of his opinions are shared by conservatives. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 20, 2021 21:53:16 GMT
Ricky Gervais went on a pretty nasty rant about transgender women a few weeks before he most recently hosted the Golden Globes, and instead of apologizing, he made fun of the people who got offended. As for Bill Maher, he’s made it pretty clear that he sees trans right as a joke. All in all, despite his claims that he’s a “liberal”, Maher aligns far more with Republicans than Democrats on a lot of key issues. He seems more in the center to me. I think he is usually fair, but I like to watch this kind of stuff and pick apart what I agree with and don't agree with. My feelings on the trans rights issue is complicated in general. I don’t know if I’d call myself a big champion of transgender rights. I’m not much of an activist in general. It’s not so much that I don’t care for these issues at all, but more that I don’t think I’m passionate or bold enough to take a strong stand in support of these issues. Still, if I were transgender, I’d be pretty offended by Gervais’ rant. www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiewire.com/2019/12/ricky-gervais-goes-on-transphobic-twitter-rant-sparked-by-j-k-rowling-1202198933/amp/ |
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:54:12 GMT
I'd have to look into that myself. The joke about Psycho I don't see as having anything to do with disliking trans people though by itself and I agree with his point in regards to movie warnings. I guess I just haven't seen them talking about it in a way I necessarily disagree with, though I am certainly for trans rights. If you can point me to a specific video I will watch them and judge for myself. I’m not necessarily referring to the specific video you linked. Maher has made some belittling statements about trans issues in the past. In general, he’s made it clear that he thinks Democrats are wasting their time with that stuff. www.google.com/amp/s/decider.com/2019/10/26/bill-maher-slams-elizabeth-warren-dems-for-not-getting-binary-politics-commit-a-crime-and-your-new-vagina-is-free/amp/To be clear, I wouldn't say that I’m personally outraged about Bill Maher. I just think it’s apparent that for someone who identifies as a liberal, many of his opinions are shared by conservatives. That tends to happen with people who are more in the center left imo.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 20, 2021 21:58:08 GMT
Maher is not much different from Tucker Carlson.
They use a little truth to tell a lie.
Carlson is very good at it.
So when the election fraud happened he claimed it was because the NRA was suppressed from getting out the vote. And he tried to egg Trump into attacking antifa in the summer which is exactly what Democrats wanted. The Bezmenov theory was that they use people--media whores--who will with angelic faces tell you a lie.
That's Carlson. He works for a company that is controlled opposition.
And Maher does too.
They tell a lie but they are good at wrapping it in a package that sounds right.
Maher blames millenials for everything.
He doesn't blame the boss who funds the propaganda.
Both Maher and Carlson peddle the idea that there is an ideological shift in the young against common sense and towards communism. That is what controlled opposition is supposed to do.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 21:59:10 GMT
He seems more in the center to me. I think he is usually fair, but I like to watch this kind of stuff and pick apart what I agree with and don't agree with. My feelings on the trans rights issue is complicated in general. I don’t know if I’d call myself a big champion of transgender rights. I’m not much of an activist in general. It’s not so much that I don’t care for these issues at all, but more that I don’t think I’m passionate or bold enough to take a strong stand in support of these issues. Still, if I were transgender, I’d be pretty offended by Gervais’ rant. www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiewire.com/2019/12/ricky-gervais-goes-on-transphobic-twitter-rant-sparked-by-j-k-rowling-1202198933/amp/I will forever have the stance that people don't have the right to not be offended and sometimes it is good and healthy to have someone offend you. I mean sometimes the trans community create problems that make people not want to support them.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 22:00:50 GMT
Maher is not much different from Tucker Carlson. They use a little truth to tell a lie. Carlson is very good at it. So when the election fraud happened he claimed it was because the NRA was suppressed from getting out the vote. And he tried to egg Trump into attacking antifa in the summer which is exactly what Democrats wanted. The Bezmenov theory was that they use people--media whores--who will with angelic faces tell you a lie. That's Carlson. He works for a company that is controlled opposition. And Maher does too. They tell a lie but they are good at wrapping it in a package that sounds right. Maher blames millenials for everything. He doesn't blame the boss who funds the propaganda. Both Maher and Carlson peddle the idea that there is an ideological shift in the young against common sense and towards communism. That is what controlled opposition is supposed to do. Yes, I would never just assume all of it is truth. they are always a mixture of truth and bias/propaganda. I don't trust much of anything in general.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 20, 2021 22:01:13 GMT
Maher would be offering good advice if he said there needs to be new companies offering alternatives.
But he cant and wont say that because he works for one of the monopoly companies.
He says millenials are the problem--that they demand and get supplied. We know that is total bs.
Millenials are not asking for Lethal Weapon 5 or Halloween remake 3 or a black King Arthur.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 20, 2021 22:03:13 GMT
Yes, I would never just assume all of it is truth. they are always a mixture of truth and bias/propaganda. I don't trust much of anything in general. He never blames those with the power. Neither does Carlson. Because they work for them! So their job is to vent a little truth--mocking these commie-style movie warnings-and avoid the big picture. The companies that employ them.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 20, 2021 22:03:55 GMT
He seems more in the center to me. I think he is usually fair, but I like to watch this kind of stuff and pick apart what I agree with and don't agree with. My feelings on the trans rights issue is complicated in general. I don’t know if I’d call myself a big champion of transgender rights. I’m not much of an activist in general. It’s not so much that I don’t care for these issues at all, but more that I don’t think I’m passionate or bold enough to take a strong stand in support of these issues. Still, if I were transgender, I’d be pretty offended by Gervais’ rant. www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiewire.com/2019/12/ricky-gervais-goes-on-transphobic-twitter-rant-sparked-by-j-k-rowling-1202198933/amp/Meh, what he said is somewhat offensive but he is coming from a place of distrust and he has a point about some of what he said. I don't think he said it with the sole intent to be offensive, he was stating his opinion and if people are offended by it, "tough shit."
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