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Post by moviemouth on Jun 30, 2021 21:17:49 GMT
I am not a huge TV show watcher and luckily most of the shows I have watched didn't take a huge dip before they ended, so I am curious for examples from you bigger TV watchers.
My answers are The Simpsons (hasn't ended - will it ever?) and Dexter. Great first 2 seasons, good third season, terrific fourth season, decent 5th season and then took a huge dip in the the last 2 seasons, ending with one of the worst series finales I have seen. Though they are now bringing the show back.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 30, 2021 21:39:36 GMT
ER (1994-2009) First 6-7 seasons where really good, after that it just went downhill.
Also Dark Angel (2000-2002) first season was brilliant, second seasons was bloody awful.
Frankly most shows that run for 5+ years have some a drop in quality,
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Jun 30, 2021 21:44:55 GMT
The last three years of the Last Man Standing show weren't as good as the earlier years due to the many changes within the cast members.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 30, 2021 21:46:26 GMT
ER (1994-2009) First 6-7 seasons where really good, after that it just went downhill. Also Dark Angel (2000-2002) first season was brilliant, second seasons was bloody awful. Frankly most shows that run for 5+ years have some a drop in quality, I didn't ask about SOME drop in quality though. I didn't ask that for the exact reason you point out. A show starting out great and ending good is nothing worth even bringing up. I agree about ER. Once Anthony Edwards character is gone, the show started to really drop in quality imo.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 30, 2021 21:51:42 GMT
ER (1994-2009) First 6-7 seasons where really good, after that it just went downhill. Also Dark Angel (2000-2002) first season was brilliant, second seasons was bloody awful. Frankly most shows that run for 5+ years have some a drop in quality, I didn't ask about SOME drop in quality though. I didn't ask that for the exact reason you point out. A show starting out great and ending good is nothing worth even bringing up. I agree about ER. Once Anthony Edwards character is gone, the show started to really drop in quality imo. I answered your question for shows that i think had a big drop in quality. The rest was just a remark.
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Post by gw on Jun 30, 2021 21:52:06 GMT
Visually, American Dragon: Jake Long. I haven't seen a lot of TV shows all the way through but I've seen enough of Sliders that that is probably near the top. They change an actress and then they change the whole cast except for one character. It's about traveling through alternate realities and nobody from the original episode's reality is left at the end of the show.
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 30, 2021 21:58:32 GMT
I didn't ask about SOME drop in quality though. I didn't ask that for the exact reason you point out. A show starting out great and ending good is nothing worth even bringing up. I agree about ER. Once Anthony Edwards character is gone, the show started to really drop in quality imo. I answered your question for shows that i think had a big drop in quality. The rest was just a remark.
Fair enough.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 1, 2021 0:00:38 GMT
That 70's Show when Topher Grace and Ashton Kutcher left
Happy Days after it became the Fonzie Show and they quit pretending it took place in the 50's. MASH got too preachy Lost just reveled in making more mysteries and never solving them I Love Lucy when they moved to Connecticut
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Post by MCDemuth on Jul 1, 2021 0:42:48 GMT
Sliders (1995 - 2000) was on the air for FIVE years... There was only 1 of the original cast members left by the end of the series... The main character, Quinn, who invented the device that allowed them to travel to alternate realities, was gone at the end of Season 4... At the end of Season 3, The show was "cancelled", but, changed TV Channels from Fox to Sci-Fi between Season 3 & Season 4... And the premise went from exploring Alternate Histories... to action & adventure... to repurposing ideas from other works (books & movies)... to full on Sci-Fi stories, most of which involved an inter-reality war with the Kromaggs (A different species of evolved "apes")... during those few years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlidersAnd the Final Episode, which was written as an "Ending" for the show, wasn't really an ending, but more of a cliffhanger, and left the audience with too many questions and unsatisfied...
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 1, 2021 1:27:47 GMT
Sliders (1995 - 2000) was on the air for FIVE years... There was only 1 of the original cast members left by the end of the series... The main character, Quinn, who invented the device that allowed them to travel to alternate realities, was gone at the end of Season 4... At the end of Season 3, The show was "cancelled", but, changed TV Channels from Fox to Sci-Fi between Season 3 & Season 4... And the premise went from exploring Alternate Histories... to action & adventure... to repurposing ideas from other works (books & movies)... to full on Sci-Fi stories, most of which involved an inter-reality war with the Kromaggs (A different species of evolved "apes")... during those few years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlidersAnd the Final Episode, which was written as an "Ending" for the show, wasn't really an ending, but more of a cliffhanger, and left the audience with too many questions and unsatisfied... I vaguely remember that show. I think I watched a couple episodes of it back in the 1990's. That is the show with Jerry O' Connell, right?
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Post by MCDemuth on Jul 1, 2021 2:00:01 GMT
Sliders (1995 - 2000) was on the air for FIVE years... There was only 1 of the original cast members left by the end of the series... The main character, Quinn, who invented the device that allowed them to travel to alternate realities, was gone at the end of Season 4... At the end of Season 3, The show was "cancelled", but, changed TV Channels from Fox to Sci-Fi between Season 3 & Season 4... And the premise went from exploring Alternate Histories... to action & adventure... to repurposing ideas from other works (books & movies)... to full on Sci-Fi stories, most of which involved an inter-reality war with the Kromaggs (A different species of evolved "apes")... during those few years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlidersAnd the Final Episode, which was written as an "Ending" for the show, wasn't really an ending, but more of a cliffhanger, and left the audience with too many questions and unsatisfied... I vaguely remember that show. I think I watched a couple episodes of it back in the 1990's. That is the show with Jerry O' Connell, right? Yes
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Post by Geddy on Jul 1, 2021 2:05:02 GMT
Threes Company was never the same after Suzanne Somers got canned for being greedy.
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Post by alpha128 on Jul 1, 2021 2:10:28 GMT
As documented by Mr. Mike on The Hawaii Five-O Home Page, the first nine seasons of the original Five-O had solid quality ratings (on a scale of 1 to 4 stars). The show took a dive starting in Season 10 and went into free fall for the 12th and final season. A special When did Hawaii Five-O jump the shark? page on the site has the following quote, which does a good job summarizing that last season:
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 1, 2021 3:26:58 GMT
Sliders changed when John Rhys-Davies was ousted. That was disaster 1. It's a shame because it was a pretty good cast--the original 4. It was kind of Back to the Future-inspired and I liked the relationship between Quinn and Arturo.
I see the final episode puts Rembrandt at risk-he is the one who (surprise) has to risk his life for the others.
It could have used a movie budget. That premise was worthy of a movie series.
They had Hillary as president in one episode.
Fox did the same with Die Hard 3 and the Simpsons movie.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 1, 2021 9:43:29 GMT
The writing of Game Of Thrones crapped out after 5 seasons. The 6th was terrible and the rest was worse.
I felt Vikings went down to soap level in its 3rd season and never watched further.
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Post by marianne48 on Jul 2, 2021 1:29:37 GMT
The worst of all time: Happy Days. I loved this show in its first two seasons, when it was filmed instead of recorded in front of a live audience of what sounded like 8-year-old children. It started out as a gentle, wistful, nostalgic look at teenage life in the 1950s, with a post-Opie Ron Howard growing up with his goofy friends and looking to his wise father for guidance, kind of a combination of The Andy Griffith Show and the first season of a later show, The Wonder Years. As a bonus, like the film American Graffiti, it was also full of background music consisting of various hits of the 1950s.
The third season was the beginning of its decline in quality, with the show now being shot in front of an audience of screaming kids, causing the actors to shout all their lines in broad caricatures of their characters. Dad was now a buffoon, and Mom was an airhead. While most of the episodes still centered on Richie, it was evident that the supporting character of Fonzie was taking over, and not in a good way. I think I made it about two-thirds of the way through that third season before I stopped watching.
Occasionally, I happened on some of the episodes from later seasons, and I could not believe how idiotic they were--virtually every one centered on Fonzie in some kind of cartoonish adventure. I can't even fathom who came up with the "Mork" episodes. It was as if the producers wanted the show cancelled, so they deliberately came up with the most inane, puerile plots they could imagine, yet the show remained popular. Years later, on the Howard Stern show, guest Ron Howard talked about why he preferred television to movies--he wasn't getting many film offers, and he turned down a role in a Disney live-action movie about a field goal kicking donkey, because he thought it was silly and childish. Yet that still sounds better than what this show became.
MeTV now airs this in reruns. I tuned in occasionally to see if the later episodes were as bad as I remembered--yep, they were terrible. Even worse, the reruns don't have the original music in the early episodes; it's been replaced by generic tunes and cover versions.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jul 2, 2021 4:10:52 GMT
Empire (great first season.. terrible everything else) Heroes (writer's strike partly to blame) How to Get Away with Murder (killed off basically the main character in season 3) The Walking Dead Weeds The X-Files ..and pretty much all of the Arrowverse except for Legends of Tomorrow which surprisingly got better. And of course the usually awesome crossover episodes.
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Post by mykel on Jul 2, 2021 5:20:55 GMT
+1 to Heroes. Great first season, ok second season, then just nose-dived. So disappointing because it could have been fantastic.
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Post by thebayharborbutcher on Jul 2, 2021 13:41:54 GMT
I am not a huge TV show watcher and luckily most of the shows I have watched didn't take a huge dip before they ended, so I am curious for examples from you bigger TV watchers. My answers are The Simpsons (hasn't ended - will it ever?) and Dexter. Great first 2 seasons, good third season, terrific fourth season, decent 5th season and then took a huge dip in the the last 2 seasons, ending with one of the worst series finales I have seen. Though they are now bringing the show back. I actually thought season 7 of Dexter was amazing. One of my favorite seasons. Season 8 yeah, wasn't so great. I mean I think it's better than some will give it credit for, but it definitely didn't match up with the rest of the series. I'm glad it will no longer be the final season and it's returning.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 2, 2021 18:17:44 GMT
The worst of all time: Happy Days. I loved this show in its first two seasons, when it was filmed instead of recorded in front of a live audience of what sounded like 8-year-old children. It started out as a gentle, wistful, nostalgic look at teenage life in the 1950s, with a post-Opie Ron Howard growing up with his goofy friends and looking to his wise father for guidance, kind of a combination of The Andy Griffith Show and the first season of a later show, The Wonder Years. As a bonus, like the film American Graffiti, it was also full of background music consisting of various hits of the 1950s. The third season was the beginning of its decline in quality, with the show now being shot in front of an audience of screaming kids, causing the actors to shout all their lines in broad caricatures of their characters. Dad was now a buffoon, and Mom was an airhead. While most of the episodes still centered on Richie, it was evident that the supporting character of Fonzie was taking over, and not in a good way. I think I made it about two-thirds of the way through that third season before I stopped watching. Occasionally, I happened on some of the episodes from later seasons, and I could not believe how idiotic they were--virtually every one centered on Fonzie in some kind of cartoonish adventure. I can't even fathom who came up with the "Mork" episodes. It was as if the producers wanted the show cancelled, so they deliberately came up with the most inane, puerile plots they could imagine, yet the show remained popular. Years later, on the Howard Stern show, guest Ron Howard talked about why he preferred television to movies--he wasn't getting many film offers, and he turned down a role in a Disney live-action movie about a field goal kicking donkey, because he thought it was silly and childish. Yet that still sounds better than what this show became. MeTV now airs this in reruns. I tuned in occasionally to see if the later episodes were as bad as I remembered--yep, they were terrible. Even worse, the reruns don't have the original music in the early episodes; it's been replaced by generic tunes and cover versions. Agreed. You actually have to watch the show from its' original episodes onward to see how awful the decline in quality became. If the show had been allowed to continue in its original format it might very well have become something of a true classic sitcom. As it turned out, it became a cultural joke: the one thing it's remembered for is giving us the phrase 'jump the shark' to denote the turning point at which a show morphs into complete junk. Thanks, Fonzie.
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