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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 26, 2021 14:42:59 GMT
Family Matters. My reasons mirror marianne48's comments on Happy Days. It started out as a good show about a family that you cared about. As the seasons wore on, we got an Urkel robot, Urkel clones, an evil Urkel puppet, Urkel in space, and...well, you get the idea. A possibile connection between Happy Days and Family Matters: I've always been convinced that naming Eddie's friend Waldo Faldo on FM was inspired by Richie's friend being named Ralph Malph on HD. It’s funny you say that about Urkel because he was always supposed to stay a minor character. The fans loved him though and wanted more. Basically it became the Urkel show.
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 26, 2021 14:51:44 GMT
Lost: They created a great mystery show, but instead to develop a way to explain it, they added more and more stuff (The Others, then Dharma, then Charles Widemore, the men in Black etc. pp.), at times contradicting, and turned it into a mess.
Battlestar Galactica. At latest when the found "Earth" with the Planet of the Ape past+copy and also added a new ancient kind of Cylons, it jumped the Shark
Game of Thrones - no explanation needed.
The Simpsons - they just run out of good ideas and it became weird and weider.
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 26, 2021 14:54:59 GMT
I have to come back to Sliders because 1.5 seasons were legit quality sci-fi television. S1 and about half of S2 that was already written were fun episodes. Then I believe a new showrunner took over and things went steadily downhill. S3 was still dumb fun, but it got really dumb after that. I enjoyed Dexter the whole way and have watched it 2X, not on the hate wagon. Same with Lost, watched it 2X, fun all the way for me. I don't necessarily disagree with the criticisms, they just didn't bother me as much as others. NCIS, took a dive for me when they killed Kate, but there was lack of character development and too much same ol' same ol'. I mean Abby was like 50 years old and still dressing 90s goth, come on. The Office worst seasons were in the middle. Michael leaving didn't hurt the show for me. I missed his character, but he had become a caricature of himself and his original personality was lost. Breaking Bad, controversial I'm sure because some people love those final seasons, but god did they drag. I've watched it 2X, if I ever watch again I'll quit when Fring exits. House of Cards (US) House of Cards? Four great Seasons. Top notch from start to bottom. I just wished there had been a fifth season to wrap the things up properly. I heard their was an ill-fated spin off with Robin Wright...
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Post by Sarge on Jul 27, 2021 4:35:18 GMT
I have to come back to Sliders because 1.5 seasons were legit quality sci-fi television. S1 and about half of S2 that was already written were fun episodes. Then I believe a new showrunner took over and things went steadily downhill. S3 was still dumb fun, but it got really dumb after that. I enjoyed Dexter the whole way and have watched it 2X, not on the hate wagon. Same with Lost, watched it 2X, fun all the way for me. I don't necessarily disagree with the criticisms, they just didn't bother me as much as others. NCIS, took a dive for me when they killed Kate, but there was lack of character development and too much same ol' same ol'. I mean Abby was like 50 years old and still dressing 90s goth, come on. The Office worst seasons were in the middle. Michael leaving didn't hurt the show for me. I missed his character, but he had become a caricature of himself and his original personality was lost. Breaking Bad, controversial I'm sure because some people love those final seasons, but god did they drag. I've watched it 2X, if I ever watch again I'll quit when Fring exits. House of Cards (US) House of Cards? Four great Seasons. Top notch from start to bottom. I just wished there had been a fifth season to wrap the things up properly. I heard their was an ill-fated spin off with Robin Wright...
Well, there were 6 seasons actually -- 4 great seasons and 2 bad ones. The spin-off died on the vine. Robin Wright is a great actress but she can't carry a series. Much like Jude Law is great in a supporting role or alongside a strong lead, but lacks the charisma or chutzpah to be a sole star. Robin Wright just doesn't have it. Kevin Spacey does.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Jul 28, 2021 9:51:28 GMT
Game of Thrones - no explanation needed. An explanation is actually needed. The popular reaction to the last season is not the result of a sudden quality drop. Quality changed drastically in the course of the 5th season, moving from the tight logic which had originally driven the story to an emotionally based suite of audience moving events that no longer required a basic plausibility check. Dumb masses hated the way the story ended, not because of a quality change they had not noticed but because it didn't go where they wanted. Their main complaint was that they had not seen coming what had been announced all along. Idiots were fooled by the storytelling and resented it bitterly.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 28, 2021 12:41:26 GMT
Family Matters. My reasons mirror marianne48's comments on Happy Days. It started out as a good show about a family that you cared about. As the seasons wore on, we got an Urkel robot, Urkel clones, an evil Urkel puppet, Urkel in space, and...well, you get the idea. A possibile connection between Happy Days and Family Matters: I've always been convinced that naming Eddie's friend Waldo Faldo on FM was inspired by Richie's friend being named Ralph Malph on HD. Good Times was a kind of similar situation, insofar as the show started out as what was supposed to be a relatively realistic attempt to portray the life of a black family living in the projects, something that TV sitcom-land had definitely never attempted before. Unfortunately, the role of J.J. Evans, scapegrace older son of the Evans family, became a breakout character due to Jimmy Walker's heavily mugging performance and the show dropped away from trying to depict any sort of reality to zooming in more and more heavily on J.J.'s antics. It reached the point where star John Amos got disgusted enough with the decline in quality to quit, and the show went into a fast downhill run when Esther Rolle finally had also had enough and left. Although the J.J. character (or the scripts) never became as OTT ludicrous as Urkel, the show still suffered hugely from the shift in emphasis, and what might have been a quality sitcom ended up as just another canned-laughter joke fest that's only remembered today because of Walker--sad to say.
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Post by davidmt on Aug 1, 2021 7:24:43 GMT
Millennium Do I really need to explain?
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Post by Sarge on Aug 4, 2021 6:03:09 GMT
Altered Carbon, from hero to zero in 2 seasons.
Into the Badlands. S1 was fantastic, then they replaced one of the strong males leads with a woman who sucked (no pun intended) and it went downhill. I forced myself to watch about half of the final season and couldn't finish, terrible. Props where they are due, it had the best fight choreography on television, better than most movies too, and lots of action in the earlier seasons.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 4, 2021 9:01:47 GMT
Game of Thrones - I mean there are issues with season 5 and 7 but man season 8 really went downhill. It could've probably been saved if it the last two seasons had 10 episodes each.
Dexter - I think seasons 1 to 4 rival with Breaking Bad. Everything after can't reach the same heights. But season 6 and 8 are the worst offenders.
Heroes - First season is good and that's it.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Aug 5, 2021 14:46:37 GMT
Game of Thrones - I mean there are issues with season 5 and 7 Season 6 was complete junk. I keep seeing people say how great it was because they took it as emotional wanking with their brain turned off.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 5, 2021 14:58:23 GMT
Game of Thrones - I mean there are issues with season 5 and 7 Season 6 was complete junk. I keep seeing people say how great it was because they took it as emotional wanking with their brain turned off. I disagree. Plenty of good episodes in season 6 and at least one, might be one of the best episodes of the entire season IMO.
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