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Post by jeffersoncody on Jul 12, 2021 9:32:24 GMT
Firstly, thanks for the effort you put into your passionate and articulate review Chalice, it was a pleasure reading it. As for my opinion of BLACK WIDOW; I must tell you am a far bigger fan of the DC universe than I am of the Marvel universe (I bailed 30 minutes into the last Avengers flick) and enjoy dramas, westerns, film noir, sweeping love stories, period pieces, vintage exploitation fare, documentaries, indie movies, romantic comedies, seventies movies and gritty, hard boiled crime flicks more than I enjoy fx-laden fantasy films based on comic books (my favorite 2020 films are NOMADLAND and FALLING, and other favorites include THE FATHER, ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI, QUO VADIS, AIDA?, GREYHOUND and NEWS OF THE WORLD).I was only really drawn to this film because of Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh and Rachel Weisz - three actresses I really admire, being in it - and because of Cate Shortland being in the director's chair. Also, I have enjoyed the limited screen time Scarlett and her intriguing character have had in the Marvel flicks she has appeared in. I thought the character of Natasha Romanoff deserved her own movie. All that out of the way. Both my longtime partner (who very seldom watches Marvel movies with me) and I enjoyed BLACK WIDOW, finding it exciting, entertaining and spectacular fun and rating it a solid 7 out of 10. It held our attention from beginning to end - even if my missus found it a little talky in the middle.) If I had a complaint it was that Natasha Romanoff is a more interesting character than her sister (robustly played by Pugh) and the plot should have featured more of Natasha. Also, while Wietz is in fine form, I thought comic relief David Harbour, while not unappealing and amusing as the aging red Guardian, was a bit over-the-top. Still, BLACK WIDOW exceeded my expectations and worked for me. Well done Scarlett, well done Florence Pugh and well done Cate Shortland. I will watch any forthcoming sequels and spin-offs. PS. Have you seen LOST IN TRANSLATION - in which Scarlett Johansson is sublime opposite screen comedy legend Bill Murray Chalice? It's one of my favorite films. Also, check out LORE, a striking, emotionally potent 2004 film directed by the talented Cate Shortland. 
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Post by lostinlimbo on Jul 12, 2021 13:07:00 GMT
Elliott Gould and Robert Blake had great chemistry in this one. And Peter Hyams sure knew how to stage an exciting action set-piece. Especially the marketplace sequence. That camerawork and music score was so effortless.
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Post by timshelboy on Jul 12, 2021 17:34:22 GMT
It IS possible imdb incorrect about running time... When I get back to my flat will try to locate some contemporary reviews of film and check RE ROYAL HUNT OF THE SUN - My Maurice F Speed Film annual says 121 minutes - also suggests it never had a general release in UK (special showings in late 69/early 70 were all it got.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Jul 12, 2021 17:38:29 GMT
Elliott Gould and Robert Blake had great chemistry in this one. And Peter Hyams sure knew how to stage an exciting action set-piece. Especially the marketplace sequence. That camerawork and music score was so effortless. I agree. Watching it on Blu Ray now I appreciated it so much more than when I saw it on the big screen back in the seventies when I was a teenager - not that I didn't enjoy it then. The one-of-a-kind Gould is wonderful here, and his scenes with Allen Garfield hum. Nice to see Sid Haig, playing a supporting heavy of some menace. We also saw NEWMAN'S LAW (1974) - on Blu Ray last week. It's not in the league of BUSTING, but if you are jonesing for a fairly gritty downbeat seventies cop movie with some action and sleaze, it ticks all the boxes, is very interestingly cast, comes with slick production values, extensive location photography and features a couple of vivid scenes. I went in with relatively low expectations and was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jul 12, 2021 19:24:40 GMT
didn't see any, i started to see one. But then looked up the rating and it had, 3/5 out of 5. Therefore , not worth seeing it.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 12, 2021 19:40:15 GMT
I just shake my head at the superhero movies because they miss the entire point. It's supposed to be a juvenile adventure--not Hamlet. I appreciate some dramatic story element so it is grounded in reality in order for suspense to be possible but they have climbed down a long way from Superman 78. Stephen Dorff has the cred to be critical because BLADE, the first true theatrical Marvel movie, is well-made. There's a hero and a villain and just enough supporting character development to carry it.
I don't think Marvel and Disney really comprehend the basics of the genre.
The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh is more in tune with what you expect of this genre.
HE MAD BOMBER 1973 - Rewatch. Bert I Gordon film about a father (Chuck Connors) who goes nuts after his daughter's drug overdose and seeks revenge by blowing up places.
One of his targets is a feminist meeting. Vince Edwards is a cop who, a partner tells him, he would arrest if he didn't have a badge, because he is so high-strung. Divorced, fed up, and all he wants is to nail the bomber. He has to turn to rapist Neville "My name is George Fromley" Brand. There's a weird mid-film incident where Brand kills a victim and it is totally forgotten but anyway, I found out the song that keeps playing on the soundtrack is sung by the actress portraying his daughter in frequent flashbacks.
THE TEXICAN 1966 -I checked out this movie because of the song-but it doesn't appear in the movie!
SHAFT 1971 --Seen it a couple of time before. Although often considered the first blaxploitation film--he walks past a movie marquee showing Cotton Comes To Harlem and They Call Mr Tibbs. I also realized something--even though he is a private eye--unlike Sam Spade or Marlowe--Shaft uses a small army of accomplices to rescue the mobster's daughter. That's unlike your average private eye story. I assumed he was working alone--memory combined with assumption when you hear "private detective" makes you assume something different--I guess it's the Mandela Effect!
THE LADIES CLUB 1986 - A police woman (Karen Austin) is raped by three thugs who escaped legal repercussions and so she, along with a doctor (Christine Belford) who had a daughter raped and murdered, as well a few other women, form a group of vigilantes who kidnap serial rapists and surgically castrate them. It's a compelling story-it doesn't go down the same road as RAPE SQUAD 1974. This is much more serious and delves into the dangers of their crusade and the personal toll it takes on them. I am surprised it isn't better known but since it is attacking the system for releasing child molesters and serial rapists back into society--it's probably too politically-charged compared to your standard revenge film. Also with Diana Scarwid, Bruce Davison, and Arliss Howard.
I, MADMAN 1989 - I had never seen this before--it's trying to create another kind of 80s slasher character and is rather effective at it. A character in 1950s pulp crime novels comes to life and torments a book store employee. I wonder if this was an influence on Candyman or In The Mouth of Madness because it goes into similar territory and at times Jenny Wright reminds one of Virginia Madsen--if her hair was curled--she would be hard to tell apart. One thing I really wonder about--why does late 80s movies like this look so cheap in the lighting department? It looks like it was shot for tv on on video and yet I believe it was shot on film.
Some of the decisions have to do with the desire to make it seem like a 1950s pulp book cover but the modern-day stuff has that bright cheapy look we often see from this time period.
CC AND COMPANY 1970 -- Despite Joe Namath's enormous acting presence(gee I wonder why he wasn't a bigger star?), it is really a showcase for Ann-Margret (her husband was producer/writer) and William Smith--he has a very big role in this.
DEEP STAR SIX - 1989 I saw this back on video in 1990 and didn't watch it until last night. I preferred LEVIATHAN--for the cast and monster but this is the more dramatically successful of the two--especially for Miguel Ferrer.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jul 13, 2021 1:47:28 GMT
Firstly, thanks for the effort you put into your passionate and articulate review Chalice, it was a pleasure reading it. As for my opinion of BLACK WIDOW; I must tell you am a far bigger fan of the DC universe than I am of the Marvel universe (I bailed 30 minutes into the last Avengers flick) and enjoy dramas, westerns, film noir, sweeping love stories, period pieces, vintage exploitation fare, documentaries, indie movies, romantic comedies, seventies movies and gritty, hard boiled crime flicks more than I enjoy fx-laden fantasy films based on comic books (my favorite 2020 films are NOMADLAND and FALLING, and other favorites include THE FATHER, ONE NIGHT IN MIAMI, QUO VADIS, AIDA?, GREYHOUND and NEWS OF THE WORLD).I was only really drawn to this film because of Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh and Rachel Weisz - three actresses I really admire, being in it - and because of Cate Shortland being in the director's chair. Also, I have enjoyed the limited screen time Scarlett and her intriguing character have had in the Marvel flicks she has appeared in. I thought the character of Natasha Romanoff deserved her own movie. All that out of the way. Both my longtime partner (who very seldom watches Marvel movies with me) and I enjoyed BLACK WIDOW, finding it exciting, entertaining and spectacular fun and rating it a solid 7 out of 10. It held our attention from beginning to end - even if my missus found it a little talky in the middle.) If I had a complaint it was that Natasha Romanoff is a more interesting character than her sister (robustly played by Pugh) and the plot should have featured more of Natasha. Also, while Wietz is in fine form, I thought comic relief David Harbour, while not unappealing and amusing as the aging red Guardian, was a bit over-the-top. Still, BLACK WIDOW exceeded my expectations and worked for me. Well done Scarlett, well done Florence Pugh and well done Cate Shortland. I will watch any forthcoming sequels and spin-offs. PS. Have you seen LOST IN TRANSLATION - in which Scarlett Johansson is sublime opposite screen comedy legend Bill Murray Chalice? It's one of my favorite films. Also, check out LORE, a striking, emotionally potent 2004 film directed by the talented Cate Shortland. Thanks for your kind words regarding my review. It's nice to see someone liked it (on old IMDB, my review is getting a lot of negative votes - as there people can vote for reviews as 'useful' or 'not useful' and so far I have a lot more who've found my review 'not useful'....but, eh, I can chalk most of that up to being haters using more than one account). Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you said about the movie (especially your last couple of lines regarding the film). Most of all, you summed up my thoughts with this line: "I enjoyed BLACK WIDOW, finding it exciting, entertaining and spectacular fun". I haven't seen either of those movies you recommended, but will try to check them out whenever they're on TV here. Thanks again for your thoughts on Black Widow and my review of it.
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