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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jul 11, 2021 20:34:53 GMT
Kinda strange that this weekend's biggest movie doesn't have a thread.
Just got back from it. Enjoyed it enough, very par for the course from the MCU. Not one of its strongest entries, but not one of the weakest either.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jul 11, 2021 21:25:41 GMT
Enjoyed it enough, very par for the course from the MCU. Not one of its strongest entries, but not one of the weakest either. My thoughts exactly. The cast is the best thing. Florence Pugh really shines; She and Scarlett Johansson have a pretty good chemistry. Dave Harbour steals every scene he's in and Rachel Weisz has aged quite well. Ray Winstone, however, gets saddled with a rather generic villain role (does he ever play the romantic lead?). Not sure how I feel about the use of the Taskmaster character here. The post-credits scene definitely has me interested to see what follows.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Jul 11, 2021 22:50:27 GMT
No interest. Not a big fan of superhero movies.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 11, 2021 22:57:02 GMT
I watched it at home. It was pretty boring. I didn’t want a family drama.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 11, 2021 23:32:26 GMT
Some good IMDB reactions
Marvel's political activism is getting worse talbotphoto10 July 2021 Movie opens with Marvel's depiction of happy childhood: White, Black and Asian kids playing together... virtue signaling and propaganda only get worse from there. Men are bad, especially the White men, fathers are stupid and useless, etc. You've heard this song before.
Characters are unlikable, unbelievable and unrelatable. Dialogues are nonexistent, jokes are flat, storyline is boring. SFX and cable fu are okay, although subpar by Marvel's own standards... and a lot of action scenes were ripoffs from other action movies.
Worst MCU movie ever kakahihatake9 July 2021 Warning: Spoilers Stephen Dorff was right this movie is the worst mcu movie yet, Huge disappointment. They literally wasted the character of Taskmaster. Red guardian is the most useless character in the mcu. They showed 0 to none back story of natasha.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 11, 2021 23:36:19 GMT
Some good IMDB reactions Marvel's political activism is getting worse talbotphoto10 July 2021 Movie opens with Marvel's depiction of happy childhood: White, Black and Asian kids playing together... virtue signaling and propaganda only get worse from there. Men are bad, especially the White men, fathers are stupid and useless, etc. You've heard this song before. That guy sounds almost as annoying as you.
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Post by Downey on Jul 11, 2021 23:50:19 GMT
Some good IMDB reactions Marvel's political activism is getting worse talbotphoto10 July 2021 Movie opens with Marvel's depiction of happy childhood: White, Black and Asian kids playing together... virtue signaling and propaganda only get worse from there. Men are bad, especially the White men, fathers are stupid and useless, etc. You've heard this song before. Characters are unlikable, unbelievable and unrelatable. Dialogues are nonexistent, jokes are flat, storyline is boring. SFX and cable fu are okay, although subpar by Marvel's own standards... and a lot of action scenes were ripoffs from other action movies. Worst MCU movie ever kakahihatake9 July 2021 Warning: Spoilers Stephen Dorff was right this movie is the worst mcu movie yet, Huge disappointment. They literally wasted the character of Taskmaster. Red guardian is the most useless character in the mcu. They showed 0 to none back story of natasha. Primeetc do you have a problem with black, asian and white kids playing with each other?
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 12, 2021 0:17:24 GMT
Primeetc do you have a problem with black, asian and white kids playing with each other? I have a major problem with propaganda and how it harms artistic quality. There's no reason for Disney--which supports murderous regimes--whether it is Obama blowing up brown people in the Middle East or China's version of it, to be peddling fake messages about racial harmony when we know they are behind the view that white Americans are evil. George Lucas called them the white slavers. They don't believe in harmony so when they instruct their apparatchiks to make a film and include this insincere virtue-signaling--it's a symptom of the illness of making bad movies.
As I have mentioned many times, in 1936, while they were murdering people en masse--imprisoning them, taking away food so the Ukrainian famine was under way, the USSR, incredibly, made a propaganda movie about the importance of racial harmony.
Talk about not getting your priorities straight.
Walt Disney made message movies--Bambi or Dumbo--but I am pretty sure he was more sincere when he did that. He didn't like hunting or circuses.
It wasn't fake concern.
But modern Disney hired a convicted child molester for one movie. And they thought James Gunn's sentiments "I like it when little boys touch my silly place," were fine for their image of family entertainment.
Ultimately what this means is--bad movies are being made.
Sticking a racial harmony image in a movie is not a sign that the filmmakers are seeking to make coherent entertainment.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jul 12, 2021 0:21:16 GMT
I enjoyed the movie, it was a lot better than i expected.
I rate it 7.8/10 and rank it as the 10th best marvel movie.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 12, 2021 8:44:07 GMT
I did. Enjoyed it. Pugh and Harbor carried it.
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Post by Marv on Jul 12, 2021 8:51:30 GMT
Movie feels 5 years too late for my interests. I also heard they butchered the Taskmaster character so I don’t have any interest in seeing this one soon.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jul 12, 2021 12:56:59 GMT
I enjoyed it a lot, other than some of the action in the climax being OTT, it was a great send-off for Natasha. And that post-credit scene was a dilly.
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Post by vegalyra on Jul 12, 2021 13:17:35 GMT
Not my type of film. Disney’s corporate structure and strategies don’t do much for me either. Glad others enjoy them though. To each his/her own.
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Post by sostie on Jul 12, 2021 14:13:54 GMT
Some good IMDB reactions Marvel's political activism is getting worse talbotphoto10 July 2021 Movie opens with Marvel's depiction of happy childhood: White, Black and Asian kids playing together... virtue signaling and propaganda That's the whole point of the scene...her whole life is about to go from one extreme to another. Jesus, 5 seconds of screentime showing some kids playing, it takes a special kind of person to note what race they are and toconclude some sort of propaganda is at hand
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 12, 2021 21:08:11 GMT
Some good IMDB reactions Marvel's political activism is getting worse talbotphoto10 July 2021 Movie opens with Marvel's depiction of happy childhood: White, Black and Asian kids playing together... virtue signaling and propaganda That's the whole point of the scene...her whole life is about to go from one extreme to another. Jesus, 5 seconds of screentime showing some kids playing, it takes a special kind of person to note what race they are and toconclude some sort of propaganda is at hand I'm surprised no mention of young Natasha's blue hair.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 12, 2021 21:20:02 GMT
I was never particularly interested in the movie to begin with, what with it being a prequel, but it’s fine. It’s about what I was expecting, although I was a little surprised by the period joke. That seems like something Joss Whedon would write.
Honestly, outside of the post-credit scene, the movie might as well have been released before Infinity War. As it stands, I think it’s a little underwhelming that the first Marvel movie of Phase 4 doesn’t properly explore the ramifications of Endgame. Sure, the Disney+ shows already did that, but I personally don’t like the idea of making television shows a necessary viewing for a movie franchise. Plus, BW was originally supposed to be released before any of those shows.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 12, 2021 21:24:56 GMT
I was never particularly interested in the movie to begin with, what with it being a prequel, but it’s fine. It’s about what I was expecting, although I was a little surprised by the period joke. That seems like something Joss Whedon would write. Honestly, outside of the post-credit scene, the movie might as well have been released before Infinity War. As it stands, I think it’s a little underwhelming that the first Marvel movie of Phase 4 doesn’t properly explore the ramifications of Endgame. Sure, the Disney+ shows already did that, but I personally don’t like the idea of making television shows a necessary viewing for a movie franchise. Plus, BW was originally supposed to be released before any of those shows. You also got a lot of that in Far From Home. This movie definitely should have come out between Civil War and Infinity War, but as far as following Endgame goes, I'm just happy someone in the MCU managed to stay dead.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 12, 2021 22:00:52 GMT
I was never particularly interested in the movie to begin with, what with it being a prequel, but it’s fine. It’s about what I was expecting, although I was a little surprised by the period joke. That seems like something Joss Whedon would write. Honestly, outside of the post-credit scene, the movie might as well have been released before Infinity War. As it stands, I think it’s a little underwhelming that the first Marvel movie of Phase 4 doesn’t properly explore the ramifications of Endgame. Sure, the Disney+ shows already did that, but I personally don’t like the idea of making television shows a necessary viewing for a movie franchise. Plus, BW was originally supposed to be released before any of those shows. You also got a lot of that in Far From Home. This movie definitely should have come out between Civil War and Infinity War, but as far as following Endgame goes, I'm just happy someone in the MCU managed to stay dead. I’m fine with her staying dead, but the fact that she died before her solo movie made it hard for me to have any particular interest in it. The movie obviously isn’t filler, since it sets up the new Black Widow, and the post-credit scene will most likely be important to the Hawkeye show, but it doesn’t feel very consequential.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 12, 2021 22:03:10 GMT
I was never particularly interested in the movie to begin with, what with it being a prequel, but it’s fine. It’s about what I was expecting, although I was a little surprised by the period joke. That seems like something Joss Whedon would write. Honestly, outside of the post-credit scene, the movie might as well have been released before Infinity War. As it stands, I think it’s a little underwhelming that the first Marvel movie of Phase 4 doesn’t properly explore the ramifications of Endgame. Sure, the Disney+ shows already did that, but I personally don’t like the idea of making television shows a necessary viewing for a movie franchise. Plus, BW was originally supposed to be released before any of those shows. The only thing I don’t like about the TV shows is that Disney has no plans to release them on physical media. How is that fair to people who don’t have Disney plus, don’t want it or can’t get it? It’s just laziness.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jul 12, 2021 23:17:24 GMT
Gotta love that people who insist they aren't racist actually say stuff like this.
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