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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 14, 2021 23:31:34 GMT
Two old school war classics. And yes, I know one’s not a remake of the other. This is just a random showdown.
I love both, but give the edge to The Train.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 14, 2021 23:40:07 GMT
Paths of Glory - 7.5/10
The Train - 5.5/10
The Train is a clunky effort by one of the most inconsistent directors in movie history. It is poorly paced, Burt Lancaster is miscast and the story is told in a dull way. Paul Scofield is excellent though.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 14, 2021 23:52:52 GMT
Paths of Glory - 7.5/10
The Train - 5.5/10 The Train is a clunky effort by one of the most inconsistent directors in movie history. It is poorly paced, Burt Lancaster is miscast and the story is told in a dull way. Paul Scofield is excellent though. Which of Frankenheimer’s movies would you recommend? |
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 14, 2021 23:55:55 GMT
Paths of Glory - 7.5/10
The Train - 5.5/10 The Train is a clunky effort by one of the most inconsistent directors in movie history. It is poorly paced, Burt Lancaster is miscast and the story is told in a dull way. Paul Scofield is excellent though. Which of Frankenheimer’s movies would you recommend? The Iceman Cometh Seven Days in May The Manchurian Candidate Birdman of Alcatraz Black Sunday I am not a fan of Seconds or Ronin either, which are 2 of his most praised movies. Seconds I dislike mostly because I think Rock Hudson gives a completely unconvincing performance.
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Post by rudeboy on Jul 15, 2021 0:47:55 GMT
Which of Frankenheimer’s movies would you recommend? The Iceman Cometh Seven Days in May The Manchurian Candidate Birdman of Alcatraz Black Sunday I am not a fan of Seconds or Ronin either, which are 2 of his most praised movies. Seconds I dislike mostly because I think Rock Hudson gives a completely unconvincing performance. While I think there is excellent stuff in Seconds, I agree with you on Hudson. I do love John Randolph in the opening act. The main reason I don’t hold the film in the high esteem that many do, though, is that hippie party sequence which goes on forever. I haven’t seen Black Sunday but I would second your recommendation of the other Frankenheimer films, and add All Fall Down. I do like The Train a lot more than you too, though!
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Post by rudeboy on Jul 15, 2021 0:48:47 GMT
I like The Train quite a lot but it’s no contest - Paths of Glory by far.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 15, 2021 0:52:28 GMT
The Iceman Cometh Seven Days in May The Manchurian Candidate Birdman of Alcatraz Black Sunday I am not a fan of Seconds or Ronin either, which are 2 of his most praised movies. Seconds I dislike mostly because I think Rock Hudson gives a completely unconvincing performance. While I think there is excellent stuff in Seconds, I agree with you on Hudson. I do love John Randolph in the opening act. The main reason I don’t hold the film in the high esteem that many do, though, is that hippie party sequence which goes on forever.
I haven’t seen Black Sunday but I would second your recommendation of the other Frankenheimer films, and add All Fall Down. I do like The Train a lot more than you too, though! That is another aspect of the movie that holds it back. I think I ended up rating it a 6/10, which is because I agree that it does have some great stuff about it. So it really just depends on if you enjoy the hippie sequence and if you like Rock Hudson in the role. I'll add All Fall Down to my watchlist.
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Post by phantomparticle on Jul 15, 2021 7:31:37 GMT
I like both movies, but I'm giving my vote to Paths of Glory, a grim and more centered study about the insanity of war and the corruption of those who profit most from it.
The Train is also very good, but in the end it's a standard action WWII film more in common with Von Ryan's Express and The Dirty Dozen.
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Post by jcush on Jul 15, 2021 7:49:14 GMT
Paths of Glory - 9.5/10
The Train - 7/10
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Post by OldAussie on Jul 15, 2021 7:55:27 GMT
Paths of Glory - 9.5/10
The Train - 8/10
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Post by vegalyra on Jul 15, 2021 12:01:38 GMT
This is a hard decision for me, I really enjoy both films. Even though they are both “war” films one is action oriented and the other more of an anti war drama about the futility of war. I like the long tracking shots and wide angle shots in the Train and the emphasis on preserving a nations art treasures. I do like Lancaster but I have to agree that maybe he wasn’t the perfect choice for the film. I think thats really the only aspect of the film that contributes to pushing Paths of Glory ahead in this competition. Kirk Douglas is excellent in Paths and of course the direction is top notch by Kubrick. I’ve also been intrigued by most aspects of “The Great War” for some time and the unoriginal military doctrines that were pursued in the Western Front. The top command continued throughout the war to pursue obsolete tactics in their fight and how futile the movements were. Gain ground only to lose it the next day. This is shown in the film.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 15, 2021 12:34:21 GMT
The Train.
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Post by movielover on Jul 15, 2021 14:08:02 GMT
Paths of Glory
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Post by mortsahlfan on Jul 15, 2021 14:59:15 GMT
Paths of Glory - 7.5/10
The Train - 5.5/10 The Train is a clunky effort by one of the most inconsistent directors in movie history. It is poorly paced, Burt Lancaster is miscast and the story is told in a dull way. Paul Scofield is excellent though. Which of Frankenheimer’s movies would you recommend? Birdman of Alcatraz is a 10/10
Paths of Glory - 8/10
I didn't like "the Train" at all.. It's muddled, boring, and I don't care for movies like that; mechanical obstacles that always get fixed, eventually.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 15, 2021 15:07:05 GMT
I used to be better at picking these things to make them close…oh well.
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