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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 15, 2021 21:11:09 GMT
I've finally watched the final episode.
So basically:
1- The Black Guy (Kang) "cut" the Sacred Timeline (the MCU) out of the Multiverse (how? Seems impossible), so that other universes could not invade the MCU. Okay. Interdimensional travel to the MCU is not possible, so interdimensional counterparts cannot jump into the MCU. That's right.
2- Time Branches (see ENDGAME) and Alternate Universes are two different concepts. Totally.
STILL, why did the Black Guy (Kang) steal people from Multiverse in order to create the TVA??? Couldn't he use normal humans from the MCU? That would be much more easy.
ALSO:
Those alternate universes still exist.
All of them.
The Sylvie Universe, the Alligator Loki Universe, the Classic Comic Book Loki Universe and so on and on...............
TVA is supposed to just get rid of potential time branches. But what branches? ? They were travelling to other universes. Always.
Why the TVA doesn't know or realize or discover that they are stealing people from other universes, not "time branches"?
Confusing and badly written.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 15, 2021 21:32:26 GMT
Great premise, but that's not what is shown on-screen. TVA agents constantly steal people from other universes, NOT "time branches". The agents call them "Time Variants", all of them, but they are not "Time Variants", they are "Interdimensional Counterparts".
(EXCEPT 2012 LOKI, of course)
And the TVA agents do NOT know that. How can you perform a task and not realize what you're doing? That's impossible.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 15, 2021 21:47:08 GMT
TVA agents believe that alternate universes do NOT exist anymore, but they steal people from other universes, not time branches. They just know that there's a single timeline guarded by the Time-Keepers, but they steal people from other universes... without knowing it???!!!!! ? Massive plotholes. Bad writing. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 16, 2021 3:05:39 GMT
I've finally watched the final episode.
So basically:
1- The Black Guy (Kang) "cut" the Sacred Timeline (the MCU) out of the Multiverse (how? Seems impossible), so that other universes could not invade the MCU. Okay. Interdimensional travel to the MCU is not possible, so interdimensional counterparts cannot jump into the MCU. That's right.
2- Time Branches (see ENDGAME) and Alternate Universes are two different concepts. Totally.
STILL, why did the Black Guy (Kang) steal people from Multiverse in order to create the TVA??? Couldn't he use normal humans from the MCU? That would be much more easy.
ALSO:
Those alternate universes still exist.
All of them.
The Sylvie Universe, the Alligator Loki Universe, the Classic Comic Book Loki Universe and so on and on...............
TVA is supposed to just get rid of potential time branches. But what branches?? They were travelling to other universes. Always.
Why the TVA doesn't know or realize or discover that they are stealing people from other universes, not "time branches"?
Confusing and badly written. You got #1 wrong, thus the rest of your argument is also wrong. Kang didn't "cut" the MCU timeline from the multiverse, he destroyed every other timeline except for one timeline (the MCU timeline) |
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 16, 2021 9:00:44 GMT
I've finally watched the final episode.
So basically:
1- The Black Guy (Kang) "cut" the Sacred Timeline (the MCU) out of the Multiverse (how? Seems impossible), so that other universes could not invade the MCU. Okay. Interdimensional travel to the MCU is not possible, so interdimensional counterparts cannot jump into the MCU. That's right.
2- Time Branches (see ENDGAME) and Alternate Universes are two different concepts. Totally.
STILL, why did the Black Guy (Kang) steal people from Multiverse in order to create the TVA??? Couldn't he use normal humans from the MCU? That would be much more easy.
ALSO:
Those alternate universes still exist.
All of them.
The Sylvie Universe, the Alligator Loki Universe, the Classic Comic Book Loki Universe and so on and on...............
TVA is supposed to just get rid of potential time branches. But what branches?? They were travelling to other universes. Always.
Why the TVA doesn't know or realize or discover that they are stealing people from other universes, not "time branches"?
Confusing and badly written. You got #1 wrong, thus the rest of your argument is also wrong. Kang didn't "cut" the MCU timeline from the multiverse, he destroyed every other timeline except for one timeline (the MCU timeline) NOT TRUE. LMAO. You're more confused than the LOKI writers. He didn't destroy anything. Rewatch the episodes, you weren't paying attention. The SACRED TIMELINE was a lie.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 16, 2021 16:34:32 GMT
You got #1 wrong, thus the rest of your argument is also wrong. Kang didn't "cut" the MCU timeline from the multiverse, he destroyed every other timeline except for one timeline (the MCU timeline) NOT TRUE. LMAO. You're more confused than the LOKI writers. He didn't destroy anything. Rewatch the episodes, you weren't paying attention. The SACRED TIMELINE was a lie. Sigh. There were multiple timelines correct? They all warred with each other. Kang (from one of the timelines) found Alioth and weaponized him to destroy all other timelines so that there could only be ONE, SINGLE timeline. The entire conundrum at the end between the two Loki's and Kang was that if they killed him, the single timeline would then branch out to multiple timelines (multiverses). I agree that it's not entirely strong writing, but you still got it completely wrong. Rewatch the final episode and pay attention to the discussion.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 17, 2021 16:53:08 GMT
NOT TRUE. LMAO. You're more confused than the LOKI writers. He didn't destroy anything. Rewatch the episodes, you weren't paying attention. The SACRED TIMELINE was a lie. Sigh. There were multiple timelines correct? They all warred with each other. Kang (from one of the timelines) found Alioth and weaponized him to destroy all other timelines so that there could only be ONE, SINGLE timeline. The entire conundrum at the end between the two Loki's and Kang was that if they killed him, the single timeline would then branch out to multiple timelines (multiverses). I agree that it's not entirely strong writing, but you still got it completely wrong. Rewatch the final episode and pay attention to the discussion. No man, you're incorrect again. There cannot be branches without time travel. TVA agents OBVIOUSLY travel into alternate universes, not time branches, but according to this show... they don't know it. LMAO. As simple as that, writing is super-bad and messed up. They mixed alternate universes and time travel in a confusing and incoherent way.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 17, 2021 22:02:59 GMT
Sigh. There were multiple timelines correct? They all warred with each other. Kang (from one of the timelines) found Alioth and weaponized him to destroy all other timelines so that there could only be ONE, SINGLE timeline. The entire conundrum at the end between the two Loki's and Kang was that if they killed him, the single timeline would then branch out to multiple timelines (multiverses). I agree that it's not entirely strong writing, but you still got it completely wrong. Rewatch the final episode and pay attention to the discussion. No man, you're incorrect again. There cannot be branches without time travel. TVA agents OBVIOUSLY travel into alternate universes, not time branches, but according to this show... they don't know it. LMAO. As simple as that, writing is super-bad and messed up. They mixed alternate universes and time travel in a confusing and incoherent way. There can be more universes without time travel if you go by the multiverse theoretical idea in physics. Where every decision and action creates multiple world outcomes. And Kang was pruning all of them not just the time travel ones. That would be a lot of pruning. It's still weak writing. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2021 23:44:19 GMT
Sigh. There were multiple timelines correct? They all warred with each other. Kang (from one of the timelines) found Alioth and weaponized him to destroy all other timelines so that there could only be ONE, SINGLE timeline. The entire conundrum at the end between the two Loki's and Kang was that if they killed him, the single timeline would then branch out to multiple timelines (multiverses). I agree that it's not entirely strong writing, but you still got it completely wrong. Rewatch the final episode and pay attention to the discussion. No man, you're incorrect again. There cannot be branches without time travel. TVA agents OBVIOUSLY travel into alternate universes, not time branches, but according to this show... they don't know it. LMAO. As simple as that, writing is super-bad and messed up. They mixed alternate universes and time travel in a confusing and incoherent way. You're not making any sense dude. Where are you getting this idea that TVA agents don't know they're traveling to alternate universes? They clearly knew. |
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 18, 2021 14:36:47 GMT
No man, you're incorrect again. There cannot be branches without time travel. TVA agents OBVIOUSLY travel into alternate universes, not time branches, but according to this show... they don't know it. LMAO. As simple as that, writing is super-bad and messed up. They mixed alternate universes and time travel in a confusing and incoherent way. There can be more universes without time travel if you go by the multiverse theoretical idea in physics. Where every decision and action creates multiple world outcomes. And Kang was pruning all of them not just the time travel ones. That would be a lot of pruning. It's still weak writing. Indeed, bad writing. There should be TRILLIONS of alternate universes branching off from the "sacred timeline", so there should be at least 4 million TVA agencies doing that nonsense work, which is not the premise of the show at all. As simple as that, the writing is seriously messed up.
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