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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 3:52:13 GMT
I was just thinking about this while watching Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss a few months back. The guy's a talented actor, brilliant even on occasion. But, the fact remains that a significant chunk of his body of work is utter crap.
The Carradines (John, David, and hell I'll throw Robert on there too, he's been in a fair amount of stinkers) also come to mind.
I'd argue Gary Busey is a great actor, or was once at least, but nowadays if you see his name it's a pretty good indicator you should skip the movie.
Anybody have any more?
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 3:54:40 GMT
Robert DeNiro
Most actors who came on the scene after 1960 have more bad movies than good imo. There are exceptions like Tom Cruise, Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Leonardo DiCaprio, but most actors aren't as picky or as lucky as they are.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jul 16, 2021 3:56:06 GMT
Burt Reynolds, probably.
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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 3:57:01 GMT
Oh, big time. Just about everything post-80's with some very rare exceptions, I'd say.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 3:57:24 GMT
Uh, yeah.  I can count his good movies on one hand. I don't even like most of his 1970s movies.
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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 3:59:39 GMT
Uh, yeah. I can count his good movies on one hand. I don't even like most of his 1970s movies. Ah, I dunno. I do find myself preferring 70's action Burt to 80's comedy Burt.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 4:02:26 GMT
Uh, yeah. I can count his good movies on one hand. I don't even like most of his 1970s movies. Ah, I dunno. I do find myself preferring 70's action Burt to 80's comedy Burt. I do too, but I like very few. His only movies I like are Boogie Nights, Deliverance and The Longest Yard. There is probably a few more I am forgetting about and still many I haven't seen. Though looking at the ratings for his 1970s movies, most aren't generally considered to be good movies.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 4:04:25 GMT
I was just thinking about this while watching Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss a few months back. The guy's a talented actor, brilliant even on occasion. But, the fact remains that a significant chunk of his body of work is utter crap. The Carradines (John, David, and hell I'll throw Robert on there too, he's been in a fair amount of stinkers) also come to mind. I'd argue Gary Busey is a great actor, or was once at least, but nowadays if you see his name it's a pretty good indicator you should skip the movie. Anybody have any more? You seem to be asking more about bottom of the barrel awful movies than movies that just aren't good. Is that what you are asking for?
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jul 16, 2021 4:04:27 GMT
Ah, I dunno. I do find myself preferring 70's action Burt to 80's comedy Burt. I do too, but I like very few. His only movies I like are Boogie Nights, Deliverance and The Longest Yard. There is probably a few more I am forgetting about and still many I haven't seen. Though looking at the ratings for his 1970s movies, most aren't generally considered to be good movies. The first Smokey and the Bandit is a helluva lot of fun.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 4:06:27 GMT
I do too, but I like very few. His only movies I like are Boogie Nights, Deliverance and The Longest Yard. There is probably a few more I am forgetting about and still many I haven't seen. Though looking at the ratings for his 1970s movies, most aren't generally considered to be good movies. The first Smokey and the Bandit is a helluva lot of fun. Probably not a movie I will like, but it is one of his few that are on my watchlist. I am being a bit biased, because I am just not a fan of Burt Reynolds as an actor.
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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 4:08:11 GMT
I was just thinking about this while watching Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss a few months back. The guy's a talented actor, brilliant even on occasion. But, the fact remains that a significant chunk of his body of work is utter crap. The Carradines (John, David, and hell I'll throw Robert on there too, he's been in a fair amount of stinkers) also come to mind. I'd argue Gary Busey is a great actor, or was once at least, but nowadays if you see his name it's a pretty good indicator you should skip the movie. Anybody have any more? You seem to be asking more about bottom of the barrel awful movies than movies that just aren't good. Is that what you are asking for? I mean, bottom of the barrel bad is certainly more interesting to me when they actually manage to secure a good actor who's clearly slumming it. It's also sadder.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 4:09:12 GMT
You seem to be asking more about bottom of the barrel awful movies than movies that just aren't good. Is that what you are asking for? I mean, bottom of the barrel bad is certainly more interesting to me when they actually manage to secure a good actor who's clearly slumming it. It's also sadder. Low-hanging fruit Eric Roberts Mickey Rourke
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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 4:11:03 GMT
I do too, but I like very few. His only movies I like are Boogie Nights, Deliverance and The Longest Yard. There is probably a few more I am forgetting about and still many I haven't seen. Though looking at the ratings for his 1970s movies, most aren't generally considered to be good movies. The first Smokey and the Bandit is a helluva lot of fun. Off topic, but you ever see City Heat with Burt and Clint Eastwood? I have never wanted to like a movie that ended up sucking so badly in my life. It's Clint and Burt! It's a 30's noir throwback with gorgeous production design! It's got Rip Torn, Madeline Kahn and Richard Roundtree! I should love this movie! But it's terrible...
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 4:12:15 GMT
The first Smokey and the Bandit is a helluva lot of fun. Off topic, but you ever see City Heat with Burt and Clint Eastwood? I have never wanted to like a movie that ended up sucking so badly in my life. It's Clint and Burt! It's a 30's noir throwback with gorgeous production design! It's got Rip Torn, Madeline Kahn and Richard Roundtree! I should love this movie! But it's terrible... Yes. City Heat is the worst movie Clint Eastwood has starred in imo.
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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 4:12:38 GMT
I mean, bottom of the barrel bad is certainly more interesting to me when they actually manage to secure a good actor who's clearly slumming it. It's also sadder. Low-hanging fruit Eric Roberts Mickey Rourke Yeah, those are both great examples of what I'm talking about. Roberts seems to turn literally nothing he's offered down, and in Rourke's defense he probably can't afford to pass too many offers up at this point...
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jul 16, 2021 4:12:51 GMT
I mean, bottom of the barrel bad is certainly more interesting to me when they actually manage to secure a good actor who's clearly slumming it. It's also sadder. Low-hanging fruit Eric Roberts Mickey Rourke 
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 16, 2021 4:14:58 GMT
Low-hanging fruit Eric Roberts Mickey Rourke Yeah, those are both great examples of what I'm talking about. Roberts seems to turn literally nothing he's offered down, and in Rourke's defense he probably can't afford to pass too many offers up at this point... Many of DeNiro's post-2000 movies are quite bad though. Not the kind of Direct-to-DVD movies that people like Eric Roberts star in, but bad and awful mainstream movies. That is almost worse imo. Dirty Grandpa is terrible. It is bottom of the barrel tasteless unfunny idiocy that just happened to have a major studio backing it.
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Post by mgmarshall on Jul 16, 2021 4:16:26 GMT
Yeah, those are both great examples of what I'm talking about. Roberts seems to turn literally nothing he's offered down, and in Rourke's defense he probably can't afford to pass too many offers up at this point... Many of DeNiro's post-2000 movies are quite bad though. Not the kind of Direct-to-DVD movies that people like Eric Roberts star in, but bad and awful mainstream movies. That is almost worse imo. Dirty Grandpa is terrible. It is bottom of the barrel tasteless unfunny idiocy that just happened to have a major studio backing it. Yeah, I'll agree with you there. Those Fockers movies got pretty awful the longer they went on, too...
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Post by phantomparticle on Jul 16, 2021 4:17:23 GMT
Dennis Hopper
I love his work in Blue Velvet and Hoosiers, but finding re-watchable ones is a chore.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jul 16, 2021 4:19:20 GMT
Dennis Hopper I love his work in Blue Velvet and Hoosiers, but finding re-watchable ones is a chore. You didn’t like Super Mario Bros.? |
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