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Post by petrolino on Jul 16, 2021 22:26:47 GMT
* Aerosmith *
Aerosmith pioneered their own form of hard, agitated, blues-based rock with syncopated riffs and truncated rhythms, crafting a multitude of musical layers interspersed with sudden guitar fractures that sometimes resulted in a disturbingly funky sound. Their songs featured split shards across seismic backbeats and they were able to create a chorus effect through amplification, pedal innovation and doubletracking, which was the result of intensive studio work.
Steven Tyler (Vocals, Piano, Organ, Mellotron, Harpsichord, Guitar, Mandolin, Harmonica, Squeezebox, Plunger Mute, Drums & Percussion)
'Walk This Way' _ Aerosmith (Kyle Brian)
Aerosmith were able to build upon the framework of influential rock 'n' roll compositions with a funk injection like 'Funk #49' by the James Gang, 'Honky Tonk Women' by the Rolling Stones, 'Soul Experience' by Iron Butterfly and 'Black Dog' by Led Zeppelin. They devised a whole new musical language built around a driving group dynamic that saw them swapping instruments and exchanging pocket solos. You might say they were doing in New England something akin to what Lynyrd Skynyrd were doing down in Florida.
Joe Perry (Guitar, Bass & Vocals)
'Movin' Out' (1973, 'Aerosmith' produced by Adrian Barber)
'Lord Of The Thighs' (1974, 'Get Your Wings' produced by Ray Colcord & Jack Douglas)
Aerosmith's twisting, turning, tumultuous rock tunes were off-set by their ability to compose emotional power ballads. 'Dream On', from their self-titled debut album 'Aersomith' (1973), showed the band were also authors of majestic ballads and this would become their signature sound in later years, resulting in greater chart success.
Brad Whitford (Guitar)
'Adam's Apple' (1975, 'Toys In The Attic' produced by Jack Douglas)
'Back In The Saddle' (1976, 'Rocks' produced by Jack Douglas)
For 'You See Me Crying', from their album 'Toys In The Attic' (1975), the group added full orchestration to swell their power balladry which had by now reached epic scope. The song was complimented by frontman Steven Tyler's elegant piano work, setting a new standard in the process for the traditional American hard rock ballad. It took time and effort to record in the studio due to the complexity of all the different instrumental parts.
Tom Hamilton (Bass & Guitar)
'Sight For Sore Eyes' (1977, 'Draw The Line' produced by Jack Douglas)
'Cheese Cake' (1980, 'Night In The Ruts' produced by Gary Lyons)
The soaring, anthemic 'Home Tonight', from their album 'Rocks' (1976), took the power ballad to its logical extreme, with the group pushing it through into hardcore territory, almost, but not quite. This song is considered by some musicians to be one of the most influential power ballads of all time.
Joey Kramer (Drums & Percussion)
'Sick As A Dog ~ 'Nobody's Fault'
Aerosmith began to disintegrate in the late 1970s. Their album 'Night In The Ruts' (1979) lent on covers to meet its track requirement. They followed 'Night In The Ruts' with 'Rock In A Hard Place' (1982) on which guitarist Joe Perry was absent. Guitarist Brad Whitfield was replaced post-production by French guitarist Rick Dufay; though Dufay and Whitfield are both heard playing on the final record, drummer Joey Kramer later attributed much of the final cut's guitar work to band associate Jimmy Crespo who co-wrote most of the songs on the album. The original line-up would come back together to record the album 'Done With Mirrors' (1985) which Perry would later call their least inspired album.
TRIVIA : 'Draw The Line' (1977), the fifth studio album released by Aerosmith, was recorded in an abandoned convent near New York City, New York.
Aerosmith (! ! ! ! !)
'Sweet Emotion' ¬ Aerosmith (Bruno Tauzin)
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CODA
I think this is the oldest live recording I've heard by Aerosmith, recorded in Cincinatti, Ohio in 1973.
'Pandora's Box' ['This was originally broadcast live on WKRQ 101.9FM Cincinnati, OH back in late 1973.']
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Post by petrolino on Jul 16, 2021 23:03:27 GMT
The book 'They Just Seem A Little Weird : How Kiss, Cheap Trick, Aerosmith, And Starz Remade Rock And Roll' (published December 2020) is written by Doug Brod, who used to be a chief editor at 'SPIN' magazine. It shines a light on connections between the bands Aerosmith, Cheap Trick, KISS and Starz.
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2021 23:38:03 GMT
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Post by petrolino on Jul 23, 2021 23:45:01 GMT
Nice. Do you still have it?
All the guitarists in my family (uncles and cousins) like Aerosmith. They like all the different guitar parts and how they mesh.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2021 0:06:08 GMT
Nice. Do you still have it? All the guitarists in my family (uncles and cousins) like Aerosmith. They like all the different guitar parts and how they mesh.
I do! Here it is still nestled between my gold-plated Toys in the Attic and Alice Cooper's box.  Lots of musicians in your family?
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Post by petrolino on Jul 24, 2021 0:10:58 GMT
Nice. Do you still have it? All the guitarists in my family (uncles and cousins) like Aerosmith. They like all the different guitar parts and how they mesh.
I do! Here it is still nestled between my gold-plated Toys in the Attic and Alice Cooper's box. Lots of musicians in your family?
Those go together really well.
Yes, I had to learn piano from the age of 4 because my mother's side of the family are very musical (she sings, plays guitar & saxophone). She was one of 10 kids, poor family. A couple of her brothers were session / studio players, some long gone now due to hard-living, but we see the young ones they left behind picking up instruments, which is nice.
Do you play?
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2021 0:19:26 GMT
I do! Here it is still nestled between my gold-plated Toys in the Attic and Alice Cooper's box. Lots of musicians in your family? Those go together really well. Yes, I had to learn piano from the age of 4 because my mother's side of the family are very musical (she sings, plays guitar & saxophone). She was one of 10 kids, poor family. A couple of her brothers were session / studio players, some long gone now due to hard-living, but we see the young ones they left behind picking up instruments, which is nice. Do you play?
Very cool, but do you feel you were obligated? I know a few chords on the guitar and can plink a few keys, but I've always been more of a listener than a player. My brother is a professional drummer and for whatever reason, disagrees with me when I say musicians listen to music differently than the rest of us. He'll even argue with me as he's pointing out the triplets and paradiddles and whatever.
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Post by petrolino on Jul 24, 2021 0:30:21 GMT
Those go together really well. Yes, I had to learn piano from the age of 4 because my mother's side of the family are very musical (she sings, plays guitar & saxophone). She was one of 10 kids, poor family. A couple of her brothers were session / studio players, some long gone now due to hard-living, but we see the young ones they left behind picking up instruments, which is nice. Do you play?
Very cool, but do you feel you were obligated? I know a few chords on the guitar and can plink a few keys, but I've always been more of a listener than a player. My brother is a professional drummer and for whatever reason, disagrees with me when I say musicians listen to music differently than the rest of us. He'll even argue with me as he's pointing out the triplets and paradiddles and whatever.
I totally felt obligated as a kid. I hated the stress of piano lessons and examinations, and I think because I was a sickly child with allergies and illness, my mother was happier me practising music at home then being out and meeting friends. It made me very unhappy at times. But later, when I became competent and could start choosing the pieces I learnt, then I started to appreciate it, though I always hated the grade exams.
All my uncles and aunts played by ear and were self-taught, so they could just jam all night. I learnt to read and write music, but to this day, I struggle to jam beyond a few simple chords. I need to rehearse what I play. I did teach myself some bass guitar to play in a band, but I would still write and rehearse my parts for each song. I envy top-flight jazz musicians most, who seem able to play any style, at any time, with anybody ... I'm amazed how they're able to follow any lead with barely any friction.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2021 0:41:32 GMT
Very cool, but do you feel you were obligated? I know a few chords on the guitar and can plink a few keys, but I've always been more of a listener than a player. My brother is a professional drummer and for whatever reason, disagrees with me when I say musicians listen to music differently than the rest of us. He'll even argue with me as he's pointing out the triplets and paradiddles and whatever. I totally felt obligated as a kid. I hated the stress of piano lessons and examinations, and I think because I was a sickly child with allergies and illness, my mother was happier me practising music at home then being out and meeting friends. It made me very unhappy at times. But later, when I became competent and could start choosing the pieces I learnt, then I started to appreciate it, though I always hated the grade exams. All my uncles and aunts played by ear and were self-taught, so they could just jam all night. I learnt to read and write music, but to this day, I struggle to jam beyond a few simple chords. I need to rehearse what I play. I did teach myself some bass guitar to play in a band, but I would still write and rehearse my parts for each song. I envy top-flight jazz musicians most, who seem able to play any style, at any time, with anybody ... I'm amazed how they're able to follow any lead with barely any friction.
No shame in playing rhythm guitar. 
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 24, 2021 0:45:32 GMT
Long time for a band to play together and have the same lineup.
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Post by petrolino on Jul 24, 2021 0:46:14 GMT
I totally felt obligated as a kid. I hated the stress of piano lessons and examinations, and I think because I was a sickly child with allergies and illness, my mother was happier me practising music at home then being out and meeting friends. It made me very unhappy at times. But later, when I became competent and could start choosing the pieces I learnt, then I started to appreciate it, though I always hated the grade exams. All my uncles and aunts played by ear and were self-taught, so they could just jam all night. I learnt to read and write music, but to this day, I struggle to jam beyond a few simple chords. I need to rehearse what I play. I did teach myself some bass guitar to play in a band, but I would still write and rehearse my parts for each song. I envy top-flight jazz musicians most, who seem able to play any style, at any time, with anybody ... I'm amazed how they're able to follow any lead with barely any friction.
No shame in playing rhythm guitar.
In rock 'n' roll, I think of rhythm guitar as the backbone of the operation. It's multi-faceted, but can also provide decent cover like the rhythm section ( I see bass and drums like legs). I think in Aerosmith, they all played lead and rhythm which I find quite exciting.
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Post by petrolino on Jul 24, 2021 0:46:51 GMT
Long time for a band to play together and have the same lineup.
And still among the living which is great.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 24, 2021 0:50:00 GMT
Long time for a band to play together and have the same lineup.
And still among the living which is great.
Especially for a band that reveled in their excesses. Read that Steven Tyler estimated he's spent $64,000,000 on drugs in his lifetime. I think he's boasting, but I'm sure he gave it his best shot
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2021 0:51:33 GMT
No shame in playing rhythm guitar. In rock 'n' roll, I think of rhythm guitar as the backbone of the operation. It's multi-faceted, but can also provide decent cover like the rhythm section ( I see bass and drums like legs). I think in Aerosmith, they all played lead and rhythm which I find quite exciting.
All lead guitarists play rhythm when they aren't, um, leading. But you're right in this case because Joe and Brad do indeed trade off leads. It's just that Joe is the only one who gets the spotlight for it. lol
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2021 0:52:37 GMT
Long time for a band to play together and have the same lineup. Jimmy Crespo and Rick Dufay disagree. 
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Post by petrolino on Jan 7, 2023 0:30:53 GMT
50th Anniversary ~ 'Aerosmith' (released January 5, 1973)
"Want to feel old? Aerosmith’s self-titled debut album turns 50 today!
‘Aerosmith’, released January 5th, 1973, via Columbia Records, has my all-time favorite song on it… “Dream On”. The legendary Clive Davis, who was the president of Columbia records at the time, signed Aerosmith to their first ever contract in the summer of 1972. The not-yet-dubbed ‘Bad Boys from Boston’ entered Intermedia Studios in Boston, Massachusetts a couple of months later in October of ’72 under the guidance of producer Adrian Barber to begin recording what would become ‘Aerosmith’.
In the matter of just a couple of months, Aerosmith wrote, recorded, dubbed, mixed, mastered and released their first album. In his autobiography, Steven Tyler reflected on how “uptight” the band was during the recording of the album and how nerves really came into play. Tyler said that “when the red recording light came on, we froze”. Tyler even admits to changing his voice on the final vocal recordings, aiming for more of a “Kermit the Frog” – to “sound more like a blues singer”. I always wondered why his voice sounded the way it did on those earlier recordings.
There was an initial pressing of the album, the original, that had misprinted “Walkin’ the Dog” as “Walkin the Dig” on the cover. So, the band had a second cover pressed and eventually a third, which is the most commonly seen and available version of the LP (pictured below). Joe Perry wasn’t a fan of the album’s artwork stating, “Unfortunately the packaging was lame. We didn’t even see the cover until the first printing. It was something that Columbia just threw together… the whole thing was sloppy. It marked the start of our education in dealing with labels”.
“Dream On”, the first single from their debut wasn’t released until the end of June in 1973. Unlike today, back then singles weren’t issued ahead of time to promote the upcoming release of an album – which is crazy to think these days. It wasn’t until a re-issue of the song 2 years later that the legendary tune finally cracked the Top 10 on the Billboard Top 100 – peaking at number 6."
- Brent Porche, 93.3 WMMR ROCKS!
"When they initially made their recorded debut on January 5, 1973, Aerosmith were seen by some as the American equivalent of the Rolling Stones. They possessed the same swagger and arched attitude as their British counterparts, and front man Steve Tyler’s physicality and onstage antics might have easily qualified him as Mick Jagger’s American cousin, given only the slightest stretch of the imagination.
On the other hand, a better comparison might have been to David Johansen and the New York Dolls, especially given the pouting and posturing the two bands shared in common. Certainly Columbia president Clive Davis saw enough of a striking connection to pique his interest. After catching them at Max’s Kansas City, he signed them to a label deal. His confidence paid off, and although the band had never stepped foot inside a recording studio, they came up with one of the most formidable first albums of the modern rock era."
- Lee Zimmerman, Rock And Roll Globe
'One Way Street' [Counterpart Studios, Cincinnati, Ohio (actually a suburb of Cincinnati) - September 26, 1973]
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Post by petrolino on Jan 7, 2023 1:15:16 GMT
As Aerosmith celebrate the 50th anniversary of their debut album, it seems apt to take a look at one of the musical aspects that made their sound so unique, the lapsed swing beats, "exerciser" pocket beats and call and response fills of drummer Joey Kramer. There's talk of an expanded edition of 'Aersomith' arriving soon, with unheard cuts plucked from the vaults. Interestingly, Aerosmith's first album was released on the same day as Bruce Springsteen And The E Street Band's debut, ''Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J.' (1973); there's some funny stories around this told by both bands.
"I was a big Pretty Purdie fan. I have heavy rhythm and blues influences and that is what I bring to the table with Aerosmith. My favourite rock and roll drummers were guys like Mitch Mitchell and, of course, Bonzo. The mixture of all of the rhythm and blues that I listened to together with those rock and roll drummers is what I bring to the table. With me it’s more of a groove and a pocket sort of thing.
Yeah, my playing is all about feel. I’m completely self taught, I never took any lessons or anything. I’m a street player and all of my influences come from bands that I was listening to at the time when I was growing up. I was very impressed with guys like Mitch Mitchell. I liked rock and roll drummers and I loved rhythm and blues guy like Clyde Stubblefield with James Brown, man, that band blew me away all of the time. I took those two things and brought them together in my playing and that helped Aerosmith stand out a little bit.
When we went in to make that record that was the first time I had ever been in a recording studio. I was completely inexperienced and had no idea what I was doing. We were recording all of the tracks live. One of the things that I would love to do is to go back and remix that album. There’s a lot of drumming on that album that was mixed down and you can’t really hear it. There’s some cool stuff on there. The songs on that record stand up for themselves, though.”
- Joey Kramer recalls the making of the album 'Aerosmith', My Drum Lessons U K
"I tried to get Primal Scream to come over to America several times. I thought their album before this last one was one of the greatest records in 10 years. I begged them to come over. I had a whole tour for them.
Their agent talked me out of it : 'They can't do 20 shows.' I'm like, 'Come on, man. We do 20 shows a month.'
Primal Scream could be the biggest band in the world. They are fantastic when they make rock records – once every 10 years. But they can't tour because of drug problems, or whatever. I don't have patience for it. I'm like, all right, you want to be a drug addict, go be a drug addict. Don't waste my time."
- Steven Van Zandt, The Daily Record (as reported at The Guardian)
'Rocks' - Primal Scream
People knew the band had found a drummer when he gained drummer Steven Tyler's blessing. Tyler had the formal technique while Kramer had the unusual stylings; they worked together to develop what became known as "the Aerosmith beat". It's a beat echoed within a couple of the finest songs in British rock 'n' roll history, to my mind; one by my main band the Charlatans, the other by ... my main man ...
'If we talk about Joey Kramer’s main weapon – drums, he currently endorses Pearl drums, Zildjian cymbals and sticks, and Remo heads. In the past, he used sets by Tama, Ludwig, Fibes, and DW.
His Pearl Crystal Beat series includes :
24 “x18” bass drum
13 “x10” mounted tom
16 “x16” floor tom
18 “x16” floor tom
14″x6.5″ UltraCast snare
Kramer uses Avedis Zildjian cymbals, and the setup includes :
15″ A Custom Rezo hi-hats
19″ A Custom projection crash
20″ A crash/ride
21″ A mega bell ride
14″ A Custom mastersound hi-hats
19″ K Custom hybrid china
He has his signature sticks in green dip created by Zildjian. Kramer’s playing is easily recognizable because of his immense contribution to the Aerosmith sound. His style can be described as a combination of emotional feel and technical virtuosity, with precise timing and solid grooves.
Kramer says that hitting hard and making sounds is not what drumming is all about. It is important to feel a connection with drums.
“It’s about letting the drums speak for you and feeling them speak back,” says the drummer. He also says that besides rock and roll, the music that strongly influenced him was R’n’B, heavy rhythm, and blues.
Kramer is a perfect example of natural-born talent with a strong will to give his best and succeed, regardless of formal musical education and experience. He was in love with his instrument right from the start, and he decided to push his passion forward, which led to an amazing result.'
- Drum Magazine
'Sunflower' - Paul Weller
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 7, 2023 21:26:12 GMT
They have some songs i like.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 8, 2023 22:43:10 GMT
The only time I would listen to them is while watching the two videos they did with Alicia Silverstone!
She was gorgeous!
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jan 8, 2023 22:45:22 GMT
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