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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 16:29:40 GMT
I'm in quite the pickle
Just found out Aaron Nola is an Anti-Vaxxer
He's been out of the lineup under COVID Protocol - but I figured maybe he was one of the unfortunate that got the vaccine and still got infected
Per Phillies Beat Writer Matt Breen -
'Aaron Nola said his decision to not get vaccinated against the coronavirus is a "personal choice." He'll start Tuesday for the Phillies after spending time on the COVID-19 injured list after being labeled a close contact to Alec Bohm.'
This may be one of those rare situations where the love of my teams outweighs somebody behaving immorally and jeopardizing mankind.
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Post by Aj_June on Jul 18, 2021 16:37:44 GMT
If he is a player I like then yes I will still enjoy what he has to offer in his field/job. As he wouldn't be a scientist I would discard his unscientific thinking and ignore his stance on vaccine.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 16:42:22 GMT
If he is a player I like then yes I will still enjoy what he has to offer in his field/job. As he wouldn't be a scientist I would discard his unscientific thinking and ignore his stance on vaccine. Good call.
Maybe I just won't go down to the ballpark on days he's pitching so he can't kill me and possibly my loved ones as well as the general population as a whole as I set off a massive Domino Effect and Chain Reaction taking the lives of the innocent who have no clue or don't care who Aaron Nola is 
GO PHIGHTENS!
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Post by tristramshandy on Jul 18, 2021 17:02:25 GMT
It would depend on the argument given and what the tone was of the delivery. If the argument was involving some QAnon-level "evidence", then, no, GTFO. But a well-researched argument with explanation of why he was taking that route, I guess I could. I generally root for team, not players, anyway.
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Post by ThreeSticks on Jul 18, 2021 17:07:12 GMT
not taking the covid vaccine is not anti-vaxxer
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 17:12:01 GMT
It would depend on the argument given and what the tone was of the delivery. If the argument was involving some QAnon-level "evidence", then, no, GTFO. But a well-researched argument with explanation of why he was taking that route, I guess I could. I generally root for team, not players, anyway. Same here
To each their own - never got the argument of not rooting for your team just because you don't like a player
The players faces change over the years, coaches/managers, upper level execs, ownership, etc - the team itself stays the same in name and is a representation of your perspective city
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 18, 2021 18:31:15 GMT
It their choice and their risk. COVID is quite harmless for younger people, and the old are all vaccinated - unless they do not wanted to, and then it is their problem. No reason to make a fuss about it.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 18:35:30 GMT
It their choice and their risk. COVID is quite harmless for younger people, and the old are all vaccinated - unless they do not wanted to, and then it is their problem. No reason to make a fuss about it. But they're risking others too, no? 
Isn't this like saying it's my choice and risk to to drive 80mph drunk in a 25mph speed limit zone as school is being let out?
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Post by ThreeSticks on Jul 18, 2021 18:42:54 GMT
Isn't this like saying it's my choice and risk to to drive 80mph drunk in a 25mph speed limit zone as school is being let out?
not at all. It's a ridiculous analogy.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jul 18, 2021 18:45:32 GMT
this vaxx isn't even approved by the fda!  |
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 18, 2021 18:51:40 GMT
It their choice and their risk. COVID is quite harmless for younger people, and the old are all vaccinated - unless they do not wanted to, and then it is their problem. No reason to make a fuss about it. But they're risking others too, no?
Isn't this like saying it's my choice and risk to to drive 80mph drunk in a 25mph speed limit zone as school is being let out?
They don't. Everyone who wants to be vaccinated can be vaccinated. Ergo, they endanger no one.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 19:01:27 GMT
Don't we all want to protect each other here? We're in it together, no? |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 18, 2021 19:24:05 GMT
Endangering mankind?
98.9% survival rate.
Stop spreading fear.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 19:27:23 GMT
But are we to not care about the 1.1%? Those that may be in high risk categories like the elderly and those with underlying health conditions? |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jul 18, 2021 19:30:17 GMT
Endangering mankind? 98.9% survival rate. Stop spreading fear. So if it’s a 98.9% survival rate that means a 1.1% mortality rate? Ok. According to google the world population is roughly 7.674 billion people. 1.1% of that a little over 84 million deaths. I dunno, seems like a lot to me. Of course, that number could be reduced if people like Nola got a vaccine. |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 18, 2021 19:40:10 GMT
Endangering mankind? 98.9% survival rate. Stop spreading fear. So if it’s a 98.9% survival rate that means a 1.1% mortality rate? Ok. According to google the world population is roughly 7.674 billion people. 1.1% of that a little over 84 million deaths. I dunno, seems like a lot to me. Of course, that number could be reduced if people like Nola got a vaccine. It is a lot, and it's an awful virus that can kill you, especially if you're over 70, are obese, or have pre-existing conditions. I don't deny the virus or its danger. However, the numbers simply do not seem significant enough to have to shut down society every single time we see a spike in cases. This virus is not gonna suddenly just disappear, it's now a permanent part of our lives. Do what you can to keep yourself, and especially those vulnerable folks safe, but we can't just hide in holes hoping this just goes away. Regular life must go on. We talk about the fact that over 600,000 people have died in this country alone, a staggering number it seems. Well, how bout the fact that millions of people have gotten the virus and recovered after only a few days of sickness? |
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jul 18, 2021 19:43:28 GMT
If you mean anti vaxxer as in won't get their kids immunised against whooping cough, polio and such then my answer's No. If you mean reluctant to get the AZ covid jab, then yes. My little sister died from a blood clot. They're no trifling matter.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 18, 2021 19:43:28 GMT
So if it’s a 98.9% survival rate that means a 1.1% mortality rate? Ok. According to google the world population is roughly 7.674 billion people. 1.1% of that a little over 84 million deaths. I dunno, seems like a lot to me. Of course, that number could be reduced if people like Nola got a vaccine. It is a lot, and it's an awful virus that can kill you, especially if you're over 70, are obese, or have pre-existing conditions. I don't deny the virus or its danger. However, the numbers simply do not seem significant enough to have to shut down society every single time we see a spike in cases. This virus is not gonna suddenly just disappear, it's now a permanent part of our lives. Do what you can to keep yourself, and especially those vulnerable folks safe, but we can't just hide in holes hoping this just goes away. Regular life must go on. We talk about the fact that over 600,000 people have died in this country alone, a staggering number it seems. Well, how bout the fact that millions of people have gotten the virus and recovered after only a few days of sickness? But isn't part of keeping the vulnerable folks safe getting the shot?
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jul 18, 2021 19:51:44 GMT
It is a lot, and it's an awful virus that can kill you, especially if you're over 70, are obese, or have pre-existing conditions. I don't deny the virus or its danger. However, the numbers simply do not seem significant enough to have to shut down society every single time we see a spike in cases. This virus is not gonna suddenly just disappear, it's now a permanent part of our lives. Do what you can to keep yourself, and especially those vulnerable folks safe, but we can't just hide in holes hoping this just goes away. Regular life must go on. We talk about the fact that over 600,000 people have died in this country alone, a staggering number it seems. Well, how bout the fact that millions of people have gotten the virus and recovered after only a few days of sickness? But isn't part of keeping the vulnerable folks safe getting the shot?
No. Even if you've gotten the vax you can still pass it on to others.
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Post by millar70 on Jul 18, 2021 19:51:52 GMT
It is a lot, and it's an awful virus that can kill you, especially if you're over 70, are obese, or have pre-existing conditions. I don't deny the virus or its danger. However, the numbers simply do not seem significant enough to have to shut down society every single time we see a spike in cases. This virus is not gonna suddenly just disappear, it's now a permanent part of our lives. Do what you can to keep yourself, and especially those vulnerable folks safe, but we can't just hide in holes hoping this just goes away. Regular life must go on. We talk about the fact that over 600,000 people have died in this country alone, a staggering number it seems. Well, how bout the fact that millions of people have gotten the virus and recovered after only a few days of sickness? But isn't part of keeping the vulnerable folks safe getting the shot?
Perhaps, or perhaps if you just use common sense you can still protect those folks without having to get the shot. I think it should be left up to each individual. If you feel comfortable getting the shot and you feel it's the safest route, then by all means, do it. It's just I feel for a lot of folks, they don't feel the vaccinations are the safest way to go. I know one thing, I'm hearing about a LOT of folks who have been vaccinated, yet still got the virus. That's not really gonna convince skeptical people to get the shot. |
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