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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 9:59:45 GMT
The best thing about the remake is the poster.  
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 10:48:21 GMT
2003 - 6/10
Certainly unique and visually stunning, but overall it leaves me indifferent. I respect the movie, but I don't like it.
2013 - 4/10
The remake is unintentionally hilarious when it should be extremely disturbing. It lacks all the visual flair of the original and has Sharlto Copley hamming it up in the worst way possible. The movie leaves almost no impression and is one of the most forgettable remakes ever made.
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Post by Cat on Jul 19, 2021 20:26:33 GMT
I can't.
(2003) is one of the best films I've ever seen, top to bottom. It almost goes without saying it blows (2013) out of the water but I've never seen it, so I can't make that leap and give (2003) the edge. Not with honesty on my side.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 19, 2021 20:29:20 GMT
The poster for the remake is pretty lame. This poster looked a lot better.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Jul 19, 2021 20:36:26 GMT
2013. The action scenes were nicely shot.
2003 was a painfully dull, pretentious, self-indulgent crap. I hate foreign cinema.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 21:15:06 GMT
The poster for the remake is pretty lame. This poster looked a lot better. That one is good too. I really like the style of the first poster though.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 19, 2021 21:19:44 GMT
Yeah because all foreign movies are the same.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 21:31:10 GMT
Yeah because all foreign movies are the same. Some people just don't like reading subtitles.
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Post by Cat on Jul 19, 2021 21:35:11 GMT
Yeah because all foreign movies are the same. Some people just don't like reading subtitles. At the risk of splitting hairs a film doesn't have to be foreign language to be foreign. A film like Picnic at Hanging Rock I consider a foreign film even though they speak English. It's still Australian.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 21:50:01 GMT
Some people just don't like reading subtitles. At the risk of splitting hairs a film doesn't have to be foreign language to be foreign. A film like Picnic at Hanging Rock I consider a foreign film even though they speak English. It's still Australian. True, but I think most people are referring to foreign language movies. I would have went with Mad Max 2 as the example in this particular case. Canada is a foreign country that makes both French speaking movies and English speaking movies. Also, the U.S. is a foreign country if you live anymore but the U.S. I just blew Mulder and Scully's mind.
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Post by dwightmachinehead on Jul 19, 2021 22:05:14 GMT
The remake is not nearly as bad as what it could have been. It's still a pale shadow of the original.
Old boy (2003) 9/10
Old Boy (2013) 6/10
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 19, 2021 22:06:06 GMT
I can’t believe this poll isn’t complete one-sided so far.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 22:17:50 GMT
I can’t believe this poll isn’t complete one-sided so far. The Psycho poll isn't even completely one-sided.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 22:22:14 GMT
The remake is not nearly as bad as what it could have been. It's still a pale shadow of the original. Old boy (2003) 9/10 Old Boy (2013) 6/10 The problem comes from an emotional standpoint. The backstory in the remake is done in way that is unintentionally funny and the villain is extremely lame. I was okay with most of the movie, but the last 20 minutes or so is terrible imo. It takes an already unusual plot-point and makes it even more "disturbing", just for the sake of shocking the audience, yet it has the opposite effect. It should have been disturbing, but instead it comes off as ridiculous and funny. The most important scenes in the remake are directed very poorly.
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Post by Cat on Jul 19, 2021 22:49:47 GMT
At the risk of splitting hairs a film doesn't have to be foreign language to be foreign. A film like Picnic at Hanging Rock I consider a foreign film even though they speak English. It's still Australian. True, but I think most people are referring to foreign language movies. I would have went with Mad Max 2 as the example in this particular case. Canada is a foreign country that makes both French speaking movies and English speaking movies. Also, the U.S. is a foreign country if you live anymore but the U.S. I just blew Mulder and Scully's mind. lol, maybe you did.
Personally I've never considered American movies foreign. Even though it's a different country, the overlap in culture creates too much common ground for me to see the difference in 99% or more. The 1% exception is usually movies with emphasis on hazing/fraternity cultures.
Like Dazed and Confused (1993). That felt foreign to me. It's the little things, like Ben Affleck chasing that kid all the way to his house to paddle him. That's a foreign mentality to me. He had the nerve later to be upset that the kid's mother pulled a gun on him. I've seen "stupid" onscreen before but that's one of my all time examples.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 23:15:41 GMT
True, but I think most people are referring to foreign language movies. I would have went with Mad Max 2 as the example in this particular case. Canada is a foreign country that makes both French speaking movies and English speaking movies. Also, the U.S. is a foreign country if you live anymore but the U.S. I just blew Mulder and Scully's mind. lol, maybe you did.
Personally I've never considered American movies foreign. Even though it's a different country, the overlap in culture creates too much common ground for me to see the difference in 99% or more. The 1% exception is usually movies with emphasis on hazing/fraternity cultures.
Like Dazed and Confused (1993). That felt foreign to me. It's the little things, like Ben Affleck chasing that kid all the way to his house to paddle him. That's a foreign mentality to me. He had the nerve later to be upset that the kid's mother pulled a gun on him. I've seen "stupid" onscreen before but that's one of my all time examples.
A foreign country is by definition any country that isn't the country you are a citizen of.
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Post by Cat on Jul 19, 2021 23:18:51 GMT
lol, maybe you did.
Personally I've never considered American movies foreign. Even though it's a different country, the overlap in culture creates too much common ground for me to see the difference in 99% or more. The 1% exception is usually movies with emphasis on hazing/fraternity cultures.
Like Dazed and Confused (1993). That felt foreign to me. It's the little things, like Ben Affleck chasing that kid all the way to his house to paddle him. That's a foreign mentality to me. He had the nerve later to be upset that the kid's mother pulled a gun on him. I've seen "stupid" onscreen before but that's one of my all time examples.
A foreign country is by definition any country that isn't the country you are a citizen of. I know, which means all American films are foreign films. They just don't feel foreign to me because I live in Canada, and a lot of our cultural psyche is the same. They are technically foreign though, no question.
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Post by kolchak92 on Jul 19, 2021 23:26:17 GMT
Did the remake have the octopus stuff in it?
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 23:27:48 GMT
A foreign country is by definition any country that isn't the country you are a citizen of. I know, which means all American films are foreign films. They just don't feel foreign to me because I live in Canada, and a lot of our cultural psyche is the same. They are technically foreign though, no question. I get it and I feel the same, but I would say the same thing about movies from England and Australia as well. I often forget that Mad Max is an Australian movie for example. I mean if you want to be extremely specific, each state in the U.S. is sort of like a little country. They all have various changes in law from eachother, even having to do with major stuff. The South and the North are very different from what I have heard and read. There is a reason there is such a thing as the Bible belt in the U.S. Even small towns have a foreign feel to them compared to cities, which is why so many horror movies focus on small towns. This isn't just a U.S thing either. If you have always lived in a big city and then move to the suburbs it is going to feel foreign. There is a very good episode about "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" that touches on this.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2021 23:29:12 GMT
Did the remake have the octopus stuff in it? I haven't seen it since 2013, but I don't think it does. I am pretty sure the remake takes place in the U.S. and the U.S isn't know for it's octopus menu. 
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