|
|
Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Jul 25, 2021 7:52:46 GMT
I agree and disagree. I haven’t seen Black Widow, but I really liked Loki. I thought it was really fun and the time variation idea was really cool. I also thought it was a well-paced story leading to a big moment at the end - which is something a lot of MCU projects are missing. They all just kinda seem to end without any real relevance to the past or present. Loki was also poorly written in his own show. The cameos and Easter eggs were also excessive. At the end of the show, all that it really did was setup the female Loki to be a new big player and Kang as the new big baddie for other projects. This is also an issue plaguing Star Wars. The Bad Batch has been reduced to cool cameos that attach to other past projects or setup new ones. I loved Mandalorian S2, but a lot of that was there too. The immediate impact and focus of the actual story within the one show is there, but it feels like an after thought to making fans enjoy a small cameo or Easter egg. I agree. Huddleston as executive producer, but probably due to being such a goody-two shoes, let himself come in third to Sylvie and Kang.
|
|
|
|
Post by ThatGuy on Aug 15, 2021 16:28:16 GMT
You may call it Easter eggs, but all of that is more universe building. Look at the flip side of that with X-men. They drop so many of that in their movies and it’s just things. There is no universe building when they put in characters from the comics. They are just cameos that has no bearing on anything else. Immortus being there is a big deal for the universe. The multiverse is a big deal going forward. Something being a big deal going forward is not a good excuse for making a bland show in the present. Seeing easter eggs or universe building drops (as you call it) that will only affect things in the future should not be the reason a person (fan or otherwise) rates a show 10/10. The series finale of Loki might have severe repercussions for the MCU moving forward... but that doesn't stop the series finale from being nothing more than exposition after exposition and basically 3 people talking things over sitting in a table. That was a lot of the episodes... People talking things over, sitting at a table.
|
|
|
|
Post by ThatGuy on Aug 15, 2021 16:38:24 GMT
I agree and disagree. I haven’t seen Black Widow, but I really liked Loki. I thought it was really fun and the time variation idea was really cool. I also thought it was a well-paced story leading to a big moment at the end - which is something a lot of MCU projects are missing. They all just kinda seem to end without any real relevance to the past or present. Loki was also poorly written in his own show. The cameos and Easter eggs were also excessive. At the end of the show, all that it really did was setup the female Loki to be a new big player and Kang as the new big baddie for other projects. This is also an issue plaguing Star Wars. The Bad Batch has been reduced to cool cameos that attach to other past projects or setup new ones. I loved Mandalorian S2, but a lot of that was there too. The immediate impact and focus of the actual story within the one show is there, but it feels like an after thought to making fans enjoy a small cameo or Easter egg. Cameos and Easter Eggs? Sif? The one place was supposed to be a garbage dump. Of course it was full of cameos and Easter Eggs. That's the one place you put them. And it didn't just place Kang and Sylvie. It answers the questions "Who is Loki?" and "Why is Loki?" That's why we see multiple versions of him and have them interact. The whole thing was a therapy session and incite into Loki. Don't think the ending was needed for what's to come, but it was good to have it for what's to come.
The same for WV and TFatWS.
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Aug 15, 2021 18:35:20 GMT
Something being a big deal going forward is not a good excuse for making a bland show in the present. Seeing easter eggs or universe building drops (as you call it) that will only affect things in the future should not be the reason a person (fan or otherwise) rates a show 10/10. The series finale of Loki might have severe repercussions for the MCU moving forward... but that doesn't stop the series finale from being nothing more than exposition after exposition and basically 3 people talking things over sitting in a table. That was a lot of the episodes... People talking things over, sitting at a table. Exactly. Which is why it ended up being a not-so-good series. It's basically just people talking and talking and talking. Not that I mind talking, I liked Wandavision despite most of it being discussions and interactions, but at least make the interactions interesting and decently paced.
|
|
|
|
Post by ThatGuy on Aug 16, 2021 23:36:43 GMT
That was a lot of the episodes... People talking things over, sitting at a table. Exactly. Which is why it ended up being a not-so-good series. It's basically just people talking and talking and talking. Not that I mind talking, I liked Wandavision despite most of it being discussions and interactions, but at least make the interactions interesting and decently paced. But it was interesting...
|
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Aug 16, 2021 23:45:16 GMT
Exactly. Which is why it ended up being a not-so-good series. It's basically just people talking and talking and talking. Not that I mind talking, I liked Wandavision despite most of it being discussions and interactions, but at least make the interactions interesting and decently paced. But it was interesting... Majority of it was just banter...
|
|
|
|
Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Aug 17, 2021 17:41:20 GMT
Random question but was Loki filmed during the pandemic? I really enjoyed the show but I have noticed a lot of movies and shows filmed with those kinds of restrictions just seem super off. Like lower quality, oddly empty feeling scenes, and what feels like worse acting… as if they are doing less takes to minimize how much time they are spending on set. It’s been super noticeable, in my opinion.
|
|
