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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 20, 2021 3:19:24 GMT
I don't even know how to phrase it properly... yet of the Super Bowl era until today, which NFL franchise has had the greatest all-time QB unit?
Packers? Starr-Favre-Rodgers?
49ers? Montana-Young-Garcia-Garappolo?
Colts? Unitas-Manning-Luck?
Cowboys? Staubach-Aikman-Romo-Prescott?
Eagles? Jaworski-Cunningham-McNabb-Wentz?
Chargers? Fouts-Rivers-Herbert? lols
I was thinking about the RB position also, & yet I don't think short term highs should necessarily outlast very good longevity. I'd like not to merely consider franchise all-pros, I'd like to consider the depth/breadth of every single player who ever suited up for a franchise's position.
Could RB even be the Oilers/Titans Campbell-George-Johnson-Henry??
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Post by tristramshandy on Jul 20, 2021 3:34:15 GMT
You got three Hall of Famers for the Packers - - that's going to be tough to beat.
The running back one is a good one.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 20, 2021 3:42:01 GMT
You got three Hall of Famers for the Packers - - that's going to be tough to beat. The running back one is a good one. I'm trying to attempt a deeper dive myself. The time between Starr & Favre, I'd not like to simply brush aside either. Then again, I'm pretty sure every team has had gulfs of that nature.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jul 20, 2021 4:08:00 GMT
You got three Hall of Famers for the Packers - - that's going to be tough to beat. The running back one is a good one. I'm trying to attempt a deeper dive myself. The time between Starr & Favre, I'd not like to simply brush aside either. Then again, I'm pretty sure every team has had gulfs of that nature. Right. Then it becomes the debate of "was Bert Jones and Jeff George worth more to have fewer gaps than the Packers, who have three actual Hall of Famers?" Which is a valid debate to have. I think the dry patches and how good those guys were can make the difference when the comparisons are close.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 20, 2021 5:47:50 GMT
You got three Hall of Famers for the Packers - - that's going to be tough to beat. The running back one is a good one. I'm trying to attempt a deeper dive myself. The time between Starr & Favre, I'd not like to simply brush aside either. Then again, I'm pretty sure every team has had gulfs of that nature. Just off the top of my head, I might say Dallas. Went from Don Meredith to Roger Staubach with Craig Morton backing Roger. Then Danny White, a capable QB. A very brief gap, if any from White to Aikman. Then a small gap to Romo (Quincy Carter?). Then Romo to Prescott. Yeah, not every one made the Super Bowl but except for a couple years, they had a quality QB. No gaping chasm like the Bills from Flutie to Allen or the Browns from Kosar to Mayfield |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 20, 2021 11:42:06 GMT
Thank you for including the Eagles on this list. It's a much deserved nomination. You forgot a few though - Garcia, Vick, Foles I'd like to include some others such as Rodney Peete and Bobby Hoying - but that may be my homerism kicking in a bit If it's one thing I don't like to be accused of - it's being a homer  |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 20, 2021 11:53:16 GMT
Giants - Charlie Conerly, Fran Tarkenton, Phil Simms, Eli
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Post by NJtoTX on Jul 20, 2021 12:04:48 GMT
Unitas wasn't much during the Super Bowl era.
John Brodie over Garcia.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jul 20, 2021 12:05:42 GMT
Giants - Charlie Conerly, Fran Tarkenton, Phil Simms, Eli Greg Hostetler too
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 20, 2021 12:17:30 GMT
Patriots - Brady (Bledsoe-Flutie-Eason-Grogan)
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Post by NJtoTX on Jul 20, 2021 12:36:20 GMT
Bears - McMahon.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jul 20, 2021 13:37:37 GMT
Of the ones you listed I’d probably rank them Colts, Packers, and then 49ers. I’d say though that the 49ers had the highest peak - I’d rank the 1-2 punch of Montana and Young over Favre and Rogers or Manning and Luck.
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Post by _ on Jul 20, 2021 15:38:54 GMT
Fun Fact: Kurt Warner's 2001 QBR was 101.4 and his replacement Marc Bulger's 2002 QBR was 101.5
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 20, 2021 15:57:30 GMT
Giants - Charlie Conerly, Fran Tarkenton, Phil Simms, Eli Greg Hostetler too Who?
Oh yeah, the guy who took over for Jim Simms when he got hurt
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 20, 2021 21:28:18 GMT
Of the ones you listed I’d probably rank them Colts, Packers, and then 49ers. I’d say though that the 49ers had the highest peak - I’d rank the 1-2 punch of Montana and Young over Favre and Rogers or Manning and Luck. Highest peaks. Highest floors? Buffalo Bills? Raiders, Cowboys...?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jul 20, 2021 22:14:59 GMT
Of the ones you listed I’d probably rank them Colts, Packers, and then 49ers. I’d say though that the 49ers had the highest peak - I’d rank the 1-2 punch of Montana and Young over Favre and Rogers or Manning and Luck. Highest peaks. Highest floors? Buffalo Bills? Raiders, Cowboys...? The Browns and Jets have had pretty low floors for eons as well. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 20, 2021 23:55:51 GMT
Of the ones you listed I’d probably rank them Colts, Packers, and then 49ers. I’d say though that the 49ers had the highest peak - I’d rank the 1-2 punch of Montana and Young over Favre and Rogers or Manning and Luck. Highest peaks. Highest floors? Buffalo Bills? Raiders, Cowboys...? Lowest floors, yeah the Bills, Browns, Lions. But Cowboys? A low floor to me would be a Brady Quinn, Joey Harrington, JaMarcus Russell, Nate Peterman era. Dallas only had one brief time when they had Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson et al running the show. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 21, 2021 4:23:56 GMT
Highest peaks. Highest floors? Buffalo Bills? Raiders, Cowboys...? Lowest floors, yeah the Bills, Browns, Lions. But Cowboys? A low floor to me would be a Brady Quinn, Joey Harrington, JaMarcus Russell, Nate Peterman era. Dallas only had one brief time when they had Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson et al running the show.
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Post by Surly on Jul 21, 2021 7:28:03 GMT
49ers. Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia
Bears. Jim McMahon, Jay Cutler
Bengals. Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Andy Dalton
Bills. Jim Kelly, Doug Flutie, Josh Allen
Broncos. Craig Morton, John Elway, Jake Plummer, Peyton Manning
Browns. Brian Sipe, Bernie Kosar,
Buccaneers. Doug Williams, Brad Johnson, Jameis Winston, Tom Brady
Cardinals. Jim Hart, Jake Plummer, Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer, Kyle Murray
Chargers. John Hadl, Dan Fouts, Phillip Rivers
Chiefs. Len Dawson, Joe Montana, Alex Smith, Patrick Maholmes
Colts. Johnny Unitas, Bert Jones, Jim Harbaugh, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck
Cowboys. Don Meredith, Roger Stauback, Danny White, Troy Aikman, Tony Romo, Dak Prescott
Dolphins. Bob Griese, Dan Marino
Eagles. Ron Jaworski, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Nick Foles
Falcons. Steve Bartowski, Michael Vick, Matt Ryan
Giants. Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Kerry Collins, Eli Manning
Jaguars. Mark Brunell
Jets. Joe Namath
Lions. Matthew Stafford
Packers. Bart Starr, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers
Panthers. Kerry Collins, Jake Delhomme, Cam Newton
Patriots. Steve Grogan, Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady
Raiders. Darrel Lamonica, Kenny Stabler, Jim Plunkett, Rich Gannon
Rams. Roman Gabriel, Pat Haden, Kurt Warner, Jared Goff
Ravens. Trent Dilpher, Vinny Testaverde, Joe Flacco, Lamar Jackson
Saints. Drew Brees
Seahawks. Jim Zorn, Dave Kreig, Matt Hasselbeck, Russell Wilson
Steelers. Terry Bradshaw, Neil O’Donell, Ben Roethlisberger
Texans.
Titans. Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Ryan Tannehill
Vikings. Fran Tarkenton, Randall Cunningham
Washington. Billy Kilmer, Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien
I know I’ve probably missed a few names. But I tried to go by quarterbacks who’ve had super bowl appearances, playoff appearances, or pro bowl appearances for each team.
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