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Post by politicidal on Jul 23, 2021 1:50:47 GMT
He's really gone in on the horror genre, has he? I'd like to see him tackle another genre like an action thriller or a crime drama.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jul 23, 2021 19:28:34 GMT
He could definitely branch out. He's proven to be more than capable as a filmmaker and, of course, comedian. I'd personally like to see him become a John Carpenter-type who plays with multiple genres and can't be pigeonholed.
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Post by nicktatler76 on Jul 25, 2021 13:40:14 GMT
Let me guess....every white character's bad?
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 25, 2021 16:14:18 GMT
Let me guess....every white character's bad?
In 1971, you had a choice between dozens of horror film directors with distribution deals--99% of the them white. I notice we don't have dozens of black horror directors to replace them--just one.
Diversity sure is diverse.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 25, 2021 22:33:39 GMT
Let me guess....every white character's bad?
In 1971, you had a choice between dozens of horror film directors with distribution deals--99% of the them white. I notice we don't have dozens of black horror directors to replace them--just one.
Diversity sure is diverse.
Also in 1971: how many black characters weren't a drug dealer, pimp, or gang member? Don't be such a pussy, Nick. Peele's done two horror movies, and the second is hardly even racial.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 25, 2021 22:50:05 GMT
Also in 1971: how many black characters weren't a drug dealer, pimp, or gang member? Black police, doctors, scientists were shown on tv and film.
In some cases they had starring roles like Sydney Poitier. The difference was that white character stories weren't sidelined.
I don't care about Get Out. I care about the lack of variety in horror movies now compared to 1971. No one can debate that. The cultural opportunities have greatly been reduced (and people keep wondering why movies aren't as fun or interesting anymore).
Yeah, we wonder.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 25, 2021 22:59:32 GMT
Also in 1971: how many black characters weren't a drug dealer, pimp, or gang member? Black police, doctors, scientists were shown on tv and film.
In some cases they had starring roles like Sydney Poitier. The difference was that white character stories weren't sidelined.
I don't care about Get Out. I care about the lack of variety in horror movies now compared to 1971. No one can debate that. The cultural opportunities have greatly been reduced (and people keep wondering why movies aren't as fun or interesting anymore).
Yeah, we wonder.
m.imdb.com/list/ls074907434/Look at all those black starring roles.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 25, 2021 23:10:39 GMT
Would you expect them to have the majority of roles when the majority of the country was not black and the studios weren't run by blacks either? Is this hard to comprehend? The impact numbers have on cultural presence?
The reason black cinema was so feeble was because no opportunities were given them to form their own companies (I see that some tried, like Noble Johnson). The opportunities they got were only through Hollywood and the same was true for whites. Now, we have less of everything.
We are supposed to be happy that the big media star Peele is designated the official horror guy of the day but that's very controlled.
It's not like Mario Bava or Curtis Harrington in cultural recognition. We have lost artistic voices, not gained any. We gained more obvious apparatchiks. Hired for ideological obedience not talent.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 25, 2021 23:27:17 GMT
Would you expect them to have the majority of roles when the majority of the country was not black and the studios weren't run by blacks either? Is this hard to comprehend? The impact numbers have on cultural presence?
The reason black cinema was so feeble was because no opportunities were given them to form their own companies (I see that some tried, like Noble Johnson). The opportunities they got were only through Hollywood and the same was true for whites. Now, we have less of everything.
We are supposed to be happy that the big media star Peele is designated the official horror guy of the day but that's very controlled.
It's not like Mario Bava or Curtis Harrington in cultural recognition. We have lost artistic voices, not gained any. We gained more obvious apparatchiks. Hired for ideological obedience not talent.
It was you that said there was more variety and cultural opportunities back in '71, Adrien Arcand. Even today, they are still have the minority in movies. We're talking about one prominent black horror director here. Yet that's a threat to you and Nick.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 25, 2021 23:57:47 GMT
It was you that said there was more variety and cultural opportunities back in '71, Adrien Arcand. Even today, they are still have the minority in movies. Of course because the media owners aren't interested in variety--he's just an apparatchik to them. For them reduction in variety is the inevitable consequence of their narrow ownership and control fixations.
In order to make him look better there had to be less competition. That means less diversity (read: less European artists making work for European audiences). That's the reason 1971 was a better year for horror film--and let's just remind that film and the drama structure came out of Europe so the lack of European artists is like waking up one day to discover Italians no longer make pizzas and have been replaced by Albanians.
The reason there's nothing but diversity tokenism and remakes now is because the companies don't want to hire based on talent, merit, or creative freedom. Too many Europeans will pop up.
And they don't care because they have no money shortages and a monopoly control.
Why can Peele announce he isn't hiring white people and not harm box office? Because he has privilege as an apparatchik and the media companies don't care.
The opposite of populism.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 26, 2021 12:39:46 GMT
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Post by nicktatler76 on Jul 26, 2021 12:40:48 GMT
Would you expect them to have the majority of roles when the majority of the country was not black and the studios weren't run by blacks either? Is this hard to comprehend? The impact numbers have on cultural presence?
The reason black cinema was so feeble was because no opportunities were given them to form their own companies (I see that some tried, like Noble Johnson). The opportunities they got were only through Hollywood and the same was true for whites. Now, we have less of everything.
We are supposed to be happy that the big media star Peele is designated the official horror guy of the day but that's very controlled.
It's not like Mario Bava or Curtis Harrington in cultural recognition. We have lost artistic voices, not gained any. We gained more obvious apparatchiks. Hired for ideological obedience not talent.
It was you that said there was more variety and cultural opportunities back in '71, Adrien Arcand. Even today, they are still have the minority in movies. We're talking about one prominent black horror director here. Yet that's a threat to you and Nick. I'm not on about a black director using black actors for leading roles. I've no problem with that. My point was that in Peele's work thus far every white character seems to be racist or a villain.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jul 26, 2021 15:47:46 GMT
It was you that said there was more variety and cultural opportunities back in '71, Adrien Arcand. Even today, they are still have the minority in movies. We're talking about one prominent black horror director here. Yet that's a threat to you and Nick. I'm not on about a black director using black actors for leading roles. I've no problem with that. My point was that in Peele's work thus far every white character seems to be racist or a villain.Only if you didn't watch Us where the black family had white friends who weren't racist or a villain. Or that the main villains of the movie were black.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jul 26, 2021 16:43:01 GMT
Here's hoping there's a role for Aisha Tyler somewhere in this.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 26, 2021 17:31:44 GMT
My point was that in Peele's work thus far every white character seems to be racist or a villain. There were blaxploitation movies like that--but those films were aimed at smaller audiences--they weren't crowding out other films as much (though I wonder why the major studios made black man/woman spy movies THAT MAN BOLT/CLEOPATRA JONES and yet never did one for a white woman or tried to copy James Bond--they mostly did comedy spy films).
Sometimes a token good guy white character can seem shoehorned in just as much as a black one (Terminator 2).
Peele gets far more media attention than any of those directors (most of whom were not black).
There's a tv series coming based on THE SPOOK WHO SAT BY THE DOOR. That film depicts a National Guard commander being kidnapped, drugged, stripped almost naked and shot in the street by a sniper. That's agitprop with a capital A.
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Post by molly on Jul 28, 2021 21:54:01 GMT
So far, I’ve really liked his movies.
I’m looking forward to seeing more from him.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 26, 2021 2:02:26 GMT
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Post by Marv on Nov 30, 2021 22:54:58 GMT
Since most Nolan films have good cinematography imo, that's a win...although whoever did Get Out and Us wasn't bad either so hopefully it doesn't feel like a different director. Does anyone know what this movie is about yet?
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Post by redcharge on Dec 1, 2021 2:25:15 GMT
Since most Nolan films have good cinematography imo, that's a win...although whoever did Get Out and Us wasn't bad either so hopefully it doesn't feel like a different director. Does anyone know what this movie is about yet? get out us and candyman were all supernatural this will likely be as well
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 1, 2021 12:09:20 GMT
Since most Nolan films have good cinematography imo, that's a win...although whoever did Get Out and Us wasn't bad either so hopefully it doesn't feel like a different director. Does anyone know what this movie is about yet? get out us and candyman were all supernatural this will likely be as well It's a fair bet, but it's noting that he didn't direct Candyman.
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