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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 17:19:15 GMT
Sorry bro... You're never going to be able to make me take you as seriously as you take yourself. Materialists tend to take themselves very seriously. It's cute. "You're never going to be able to make me take you as seriously as you take yourself." I know, you've spent several pages telling me how much you "don't take me seriously" even though you could be doing something more productive. "Materialists tend to take themselves very seriously. It's cute" Yeah again I can actually make arguments for position, you can't. It's so sad that all your philosophy teachers would laugh at me. ...I guess they're not Vedanta Philosophy teachers.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 17:21:31 GMT
"You're never going to be able to make me take you as seriously as you take yourself." I know, you've spent several pages telling me how much you "don't take me seriously" even though you could be doing something more productive. "Materialists tend to take themselves very seriously. It's cute" Yeah again I can actually make arguments for position, you can't. It's so sad that all your philosophy teachers would laugh at me. ...I guess they're not Vedanta Philosophy teachers. You don't know what "materialism" or "atheism" actually means, I dunno if they would necessarily laugh at you, they would probably just tell you you're wrong and to stop using the terms incorrectly.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 17:27:54 GMT
It's so sad that all your philosophy teachers would laugh at me. ...I guess they're not Vedanta Philosophy teachers. You don't know what "materialism" or "atheism" actually means, I dunno if they would necessarily laugh at you, they would probably just tell you you're wrong and to stop using the terms incorrectly. Could you help me with the Materialism definition? It's so confusing!! I can't figure it out from context!! What kind of 'Materialist' are you? There's probably 50 different kinds!!
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 17:36:20 GMT
You don't know what "materialism" or "atheism" actually means, I dunno if they would necessarily laugh at you, they would probably just tell you you're wrong and to stop using the terms incorrectly. Could you help me with the Materialism definition? It's so confusing!! I can't figure it out from context!! What kind of 'Materialist' are you? There's probably 50 different kinds!! I already did. Remember when you lied and tried misconflate physical materialism with consumerism, and when you even pulled out the dictionary defintion you lied and tried to argue how the defintion has "four parts" that mean the same thing (even though that's not how dictionaries work) and you have even dishonestly clipped one of defintions to fit your defintion? Remember that? I've asked you several times if you think any valid philsophy teacher would agree with you and you keep conveniently dodging that question. Go figure.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 17:45:18 GMT
Could you help me with the Materialism definition? It's so confusing!! I can't figure it out from context!! What kind of 'Materialist' are you? There's probably 50 different kinds!! I already did. Remember when you lied and tried misconflate physical materialism with consumerism, and when you even pulled out the dictionary defintion you lied and tried to argue how the defintion has "four parts" that mean the same thing (even though that's not how dictionaries work) and you have even dishonestly clipped one of defintions to fit your defintion? Remember that? I've asked you several times if you think any valid philsophy teacher would agree with you and you keep conveniently dodging that question. Go figure. What a stupid question that is. I don't think philosophy teachers are in consensus about anything. I also don't think it's intelligent to imagine I have access to all philosophy instructors. It's straw man shit, that's why I ignored it. It's just a dumb question all around. You're a Materialist. You obviously won't give a shit about Vedanta philosophy.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 17:53:16 GMT
I already did. Remember when you lied and tried misconflate physical materialism with consumerism, and when you even pulled out the dictionary defintion you lied and tried to argue how the defintion has "four parts" that mean the same thing (even though that's not how dictionaries work) and you have even dishonestly clipped one of defintions to fit your defintion? Remember that? I've asked you several times if you think any valid philsophy teacher would agree with you and you keep conveniently dodging that question. Go figure.What a stupid question that is. I don't think philosophy teachers are in consensus about anything. I also don't think it's intelligent to imagine I have access to all philosophy instructors. It's straw man shit. You're a Materialist. You obviously won't give a shit about Vedanta philosophy. "What a stupid question that is." It's not, you just don't wanna answer because you know it would throw it throw your argument out the window. More intellecutal cowardice. "I don't think philosophy teachers are in consensus about anything." Really? So if I were to poll thousands of philosophy professors, what do you think their answer would be? Try to actually answer this time. Do you think the majority would agree with you. "I also don't think it's intelligent to imagine I have access to all philosophy instructors." That's why it's called a hypothethical "It's straw man shit." That's not what "strawman" means, please don't use terms you don't actually know the meaning of "You're a Materialist. You obviously won't give a shit about Vedanta philosophy." This has nothing to do with what I said, just another obfiscation.
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Post by maya55555 on Aug 2, 2021 17:53:46 GMT
GET A ROOM
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 17:54:48 GMT
What a stupid question that is. I don't think philosophy teachers are in consensus about anything. I also don't think it's intelligent to imagine I have access to all philosophy instructors. It's straw man shit. You're a Materialist. You obviously won't give a shit about Vedanta philosophy. "What a stupid question that is." It's not, you just don't wanna answer No, it's a dumb question that's impossible to answer accurately. I'm sure your precious philosophy instructors would all agree.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 18:04:59 GMT
"What a stupid question that is." It's not, you just don't wanna answer No, it's a dumb question that's impossible to answer accurately. I'm sure your precious philosophy instructors would all agree. "No, it's a dumb question that's impossible to answer accurately." No you just don't wanna answer because you're an intellectual coward. This is essentially the same argument from global warming deniers ("Well not all climate scientists agree! It's impossible to answer accurately!") Again, if you were to poll a bunch of philosophy teachers, how many do you think would agree with you? Try to actually answer this time. And if you answer is "Not all would agree!", then I could just throw "Not all climate scientists would agree!" back at you.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 18:07:17 GMT
No, it's a dumb question that's impossible to answer accurately. I'm sure your precious philosophy instructors would all agree. "No, it's a dumb question that's impossible to answer accurately." No you just don't wanna answer because you're an intellectual coward. This is essentially the same argument from global warming deniers ("Well not all climate scientists agree! It's impossible to answer accurately!") Again, if you were to poll a bunch of philosophy teachers, how many do you think would agree with you? Try to actually answer this time. Do you imagine any Vedanta Philosophy instructors would agree with your philosophy of Materialism? I'm narcissistic and entitled, so I expect you to answer...even though it would be impossible for me to prove either way if you're correct or not. You're really fun bro.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 18:09:46 GMT
"No, it's a dumb question that's impossible to answer accurately." No you just don't wanna answer because you're an intellectual coward. This is essentially the same argument from global warming deniers ("Well not all climate scientists agree! It's impossible to answer accurately!") Again, if you were to poll a bunch of philosophy teachers, how many do you think would agree with you? Try to actually answer this time. Do you imagine any Vedanta Philosophy instructors would agree with your philosophy of Materialism? I'm narcissistic and entitled, so I expect you to answer...even though it would be impossible for me to prove either way if you're correct or not. "Do you imagine any Vedanta Philosophy instructors would agree with your philosophy of Materialism?" This has nothing to do with I asked, evasion noted. More intellectual cowardice. "I'm narcissistic and entitled, so I expect you to answer...even though it would be impossible for me to prove either way if you're correct or not." It's impossible to get the consensus on a academic field? You realize that's what peer review and polling data is for right?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 18:11:25 GMT
Do you imagine any Vedanta Philosophy instructors would agree with your philosophy of Materialism? I'm narcissistic and entitled, so I expect you to answer...even though it would be impossible for me to prove either way if you're correct or not. "Do you imagine any Vedanta Philosophy instructors would agree with your philosophy of Materialism?" This has nothing to do with I asked, evasion noted. More intellectual cowardice."I'm narcissistic and entitled, so I expect you to answer...even though it would be impossible for me to prove either way if you're correct or not." It's impossible to get the consensus on a academic field? You realize that's what peer review and polling data is for right? Holy fuck dude. You're just trying to make me laugh now. Thanks. Can you take yourself more seriously? Is it possible?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 18:19:18 GMT
"Do you imagine any Vedanta Philosophy instructors would agree with your philosophy of Materialism?" This has nothing to do with I asked, evasion noted. More intellectual cowardice."I'm narcissistic and entitled, so I expect you to answer...even though it would be impossible for me to prove either way if you're correct or not." It's impossible to get the consensus on a academic field? You realize that's what peer review and polling data is for right? Holy fuck dude. You're just trying to make me laugh now. Thanks. Can you take yourself more seriously? Is it possible? More obfiscation, evasion noted. I'm gonna ask you again, if you were to poll philosophy professors, how many do you think would agree with your definition of "materialism". Try to actually answer this time and not just pivot and throw childish insults.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 18:23:32 GMT
Holy fuck dude. You're just trying to make me laugh now. Thanks. Can you take yourself more seriously? Is it possible? More obfiscation, evasion noted. I'm gonna ask you again, if you were to poll philosophy professors, how many do you think would agree with your definition of "materialism". Try to actually answer this time. You're not entitled to an answer to your stupid theoretical question. Again.. get over yourself. If you imagine I care about proving my intellectual prowess to you, it's a hilarious display of narcissism... that's why I'm responding. Not surprising... you have to have some degree of narcissism to discount all spiritual experiences from the dawn of recorded history as being symptoms of delusion or ignorance.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 18:34:56 GMT
More obfiscation, evasion noted. I'm gonna ask you again, if you were to poll philosophy professors, how many do you think would agree with your definition of "materialism". Try to actually answer this time.You're not entitled to an answer to your stupid theoretical question. Again.. get over yourself. If you imagine I care about proving my intellectual prowess to you, it's a hilarious display of narcissism... that's why I'm responding. Not surprising... you have to have some degree of narcissism to discount all spiritual experiences from the dawn of recorded history as being symptoms of delusion or ignorance. "You're not entitled to an answer to your stupid theoretical question." Pathetic. OK you know what, we both now what the answer, your just not gonna answer because it would throw your dogshit argument out the window. It's OK. "Not surprising... you have to have some degree of narcissism to discount all spiritual experiences from the dawn of recorded history as being symptoms of delusion or ignorance." And this is a just an idiotic strawman that has nothing to do with what I said. More crippling stupidity and dishonesty from you.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 18:39:41 GMT
You're not entitled to an answer to your stupid theoretical question. Again.. get over yourself. If you imagine I care about proving my intellectual prowess to you, it's a hilarious display of narcissism... that's why I'm responding. Not surprising... you have to have some degree of narcissism to discount all spiritual experiences from the dawn of recorded history as being symptoms of delusion or ignorance. "Not surprising... you have to have some degree of narcissism to discount all spiritual experiences from the dawn of recorded history as being symptoms of delusion or ignorance."And this is a just an idiotic strawman that has nothing to do with what I said. More crippling stupidity and dishonesty from you. I'm entitled to a response!!! Otherwise, it's all crippling stupidity and dishonesty from you!! You should care about proving your intellectual might to me on an anonymous message board.. because evidently you're a loser!
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Post by amyghost on Aug 2, 2021 18:44:14 GMT
possibly with their brains/selves fighting off the temptation to believe in superstitions or taking things as signs all around them as they are encountered throughout their daily lives? Or maybe their brains are wired to immediately write these things off as coincidences and bad habits that need to be shaken? Frankly, I suspect that it's more the religious who tend to go through continual struggles to keep their faith in sky fairies alive, given the ongoing evidence that there's little enough basis in daily life to support the notion. I seldom read of atheists having much problem with keeping their evidentiary basis for the lack of an omniscient and omnipotent god alive, but one can find countless writings of the faithful dealing with their lack/loss of faith, their problems with maintaining that faith, their crises of faith stemming from one thing or another, etc., etc.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 18:47:39 GMT
"Not surprising... you have to have some degree of narcissism to discount all spiritual experiences from the dawn of recorded history as being symptoms of delusion or ignorance."And this is a just an idiotic strawman that has nothing to do with what I said. More crippling stupidity and dishonesty from you. I'm entitled to a response!!! Otherwise, it's all crippling stupidity and dishonesty from you!! You should care about proving your intellectual might to me on an anonymous message board.. because evidently you're a loser! "I'm entitled to a response!!!" Huh? Repsond to what? I can respond to your idiotic strawman if you want, but it should be noted that was a strawman that had nothing to do with I was asking you. Define "spiritual experience" first and I'll answer (I'm not gonna let you Motte and Bailey me). "You should care about proving your intellectual might to me on an anonymous message board.. because evidently you're a loser!" I actually gave arguments, you gave petty insults, pivots, and too cowardly to answer simple questions.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 2, 2021 19:02:02 GMT
I'm entitled to a response!!! Otherwise, it's all crippling stupidity and dishonesty from you!! You should care about proving your intellectual might to me on an anonymous message board.. because evidently you're a loser! "I'm entitled to a response!!!" Huh? Repsond to what? Rationalize discounting all spiritual experiences from all human beings from the dawn of recorded history as symptoms of delusion or ignorance. (I don't really care if you answer, I'm just poking fun at your sense of entitlement.)
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 2, 2021 19:09:44 GMT
"I'm entitled to a response!!!" Huh? Repsond to what? Rationalize discounting all spiritual experiences from all human beings from the dawn of recorded history as symptoms of delusion or ignorance. (I don't really care if you answer, I'm just poking fun at your sense of entitlement.) I asked you to define "spiritual experience" first before I answer, you left that part out (you're very dishonest with how you use words, so I have to get a clear defintion first)
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