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Post by Morgana on Jul 28, 2021 8:58:49 GMT
I opened a link which had listed the 'Fastest Selling Books in U.S. History' and saw this message before the column:
I just stared at that for the longest time because I couldn't believe it. The world has officially lost it's mind. Or at least the far left/woke/cancel culture has.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jul 28, 2021 9:04:28 GMT
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Post by Stammerhead on Jul 28, 2021 13:44:26 GMT
It funny how she’s transitioning into Lord Voldemort.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jul 28, 2021 14:17:53 GMT
The Right: wants to take scholarships away from students who criticize Israel, wants to force reachers and students to declare their political affiliations, wants to allow pediatricians to refuse treatment for kids whose parents are gay, are telling people not get vaccinated for a virus that has already killed 600,00 Americans, tried to overturn the results of an election by force.
Cons on the boards: "I had to see a content warning on a website. The Looney Left has gone TOO FAR!!!!!"
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Post by amyghost on Jul 28, 2021 14:40:03 GMT
The Right: wants to take scholarships away from students who criticize Israel, wants to force reachers and students to declare their political affiliations, wants to allow pediatricians to refuse treatment for kids whose parents are gay, are telling people not get vaccinated for a virus that has already killed 600,00 Americans, tried to overturn the results of an election by force. Cons on the boards: "I had to see a content warning on a website. The Looney Left has gone TOO FAR!!!!!" It's typical. The wingnut Right routinely smears leftists for what they, the Right, actually practice and preach. That too many Americans are taken in by this tactic simply tells us that public education long ago failed in its mission to create a literate electorate capable of critical thought on virtually anything.
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Post by Morgana on Jul 28, 2021 16:33:02 GMT
The Right: wants to take scholarships away from students who criticize Israel, wants to force reachers and students to declare their political affiliations, wants to allow pediatricians to refuse treatment for kids whose parents are gay, are telling people not get vaccinated for a virus that has already killed 600,00 Americans, tried to overturn the results of an election by force. Cons on the boards: "I had to see a content warning on a website. The Looney Left has gone TOO FAR!!!!!" I'm far from being a right wing nut, but putting a warning on an article because they mention a book written by an author who they think is transphobic is ridiculous. She didn't say anything that wasn't true but that's beside the point. Their thinking (whoever 'they' might be) is that we, as adults, need to be given a warning that we might see something or read something that the, being the delicate flowers that they are, don't agree with? And in this case, her views are not even being discussed, her books are. So why bring it up?
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Post by Stammerhead on Jul 28, 2021 19:04:49 GMT
The Right: wants to take scholarships away from students who criticize Israel, wants to force reachers and students to declare their political affiliations, wants to allow pediatricians to refuse treatment for kids whose parents are gay, are telling people not get vaccinated for a virus that has already killed 600,00 Americans, tried to overturn the results of an election by force. Cons on the boards: "I had to see a content warning on a website. The Looney Left has gone TOO FAR!!!!!" I'm far from being a right wing nut, but putting a warning on an article because they mention a book written by an author who they think is transphobic is ridiculous. She didn't say anything that wasn't true but that's beside the point. Their thinking (whoever 'they' might be) is that we, as adults, need to be given a warning that we might see something or read something that the, being the delicate flowers that they are, don't agree with? And in this case, her views are not even being discussed, her books are. So why bring it up? They could have warned us about the cluster of clickbait lurking at the bottom of the page if they’re that concerned about us.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jul 29, 2021 8:40:15 GMT
The Right: wants to take scholarships away from students who criticize Israel, wants to force reachers and students to declare their political affiliations, wants to allow pediatricians to refuse treatment for kids whose parents are gay, are telling people not get vaccinated for a virus that has already killed 600,00 Americans, tried to overturn the results of an election by force. Cons on the boards: "I had to see a content warning on a website. The Looney Left has gone TOO FAR!!!!!" I'm far from being a right wing nut, but putting a warning on an article because they mention a book written by an author who they think is transphobic is ridiculous. She didn't say anything that wasn't true but that's beside the point. Their thinking (whoever 'they' might be) is that we, as adults, need to be given a warning that we might see something or read something that the, being the delicate flowers that they are, don't agree with? And in this case, her views are not even being discussed, her books are. So why bring it up? What CrepedCrusader's post appears to be suggesting is, to put it in gentle terms, maintaining a sense of perspective. While yours finds "cancel culture" in a harmless disclaimer and conveniently blames the whole concept on the left, his provides five very real examples of it coming from the right involving not just words but dangerous actions, and yet it's from that disclaimer that you conclude, "The world has officially lost it's mind." Rather an overreaction, one could say. Funny thing is, it wasn't too many years back that Rowling was a target of that very cancelling by the right, when conservative and religious groups advocated banning her books for supposedly promoting witchcraft and homosexuality. The right has always been able to make u-turns on a dime, whether screaming protests of spending during one administration and exploding it the next, or going from "Blue Lives Matter" to "kill him with his own gun." But the freedom about which they love to bleat and bellow continues to be a one-way street on their maps, even when they can't make up their minds which way they're going.
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Post by Morgana on Jul 29, 2021 11:46:03 GMT
I'm far from being a right wing nut, but putting a warning on an article because they mention a book written by an author who they think is transphobic is ridiculous. She didn't say anything that wasn't true but that's beside the point. Their thinking (whoever 'they' might be) is that we, as adults, need to be given a warning that we might see something or read something that the, being the delicate flowers that they are, don't agree with? And in this case, her views are not even being discussed, her books are. So why bring it up? What CrepedCrusader 's post appears to be suggesting is, to put it in gentle terms, maintaining a sense of perspective. While yours finds "cancel culture" in a harmless disclaimer and conveniently blames the whole concept on the left, his provides five very real examples of it coming from the right involving not just words but dangerous actions, and yet it's from that disclaimer that you conclude, "The world has officially lost it's mind." Rather an overreaction, one could say. Funny thing is, it wasn't too many years back that Rowling was a target of that very cancelling by the right, when conservative and religious groups advocated banning her books for supposedly promoting witchcraft and homosexuality. The right has always been able to make u-turns on a dime, whether screaming protests of spending during one administration and exploding it the next, or going from "Blue Lives Matter" to "kill him with his own gun." But the freedom about which they love to bleat and bellow continues to be a one-way street on their maps, even when they can't make up their minds which way they're going. You may see it as being harmless, but I don't. It's the first of many disclaimers that will need to be put before articles about any number of subjects. If the disclaimer were put before an article written by Rowling I wouldn't have said anything, though, in my view, she didn't say anything wrong. My point is that a disclaimer shouldn't need to be put because an author's books were mentioned. I find that worryingly ridiculous.
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Post by theauxphou on Jul 30, 2021 9:33:37 GMT
They should warn the visitor of the stupid popup asking whether or not they want to subscribe to an e-newsletter or some shit. Presumably so they can harvest your email address and spam you with rubbish. Oh and also, transwomen are actually still men hahhahehahehahhehahehahehahe!
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jul 30, 2021 11:42:04 GMT
What CrepedCrusader 's post appears to be suggesting is, to put it in gentle terms, maintaining a sense of perspective. While yours finds "cancel culture" in a harmless disclaimer and conveniently blames the whole concept on the left, his provides five very real examples of it coming from the right involving not just words but dangerous actions, and yet it's from that disclaimer that you conclude, "The world has officially lost it's mind." Rather an overreaction, one could say. Funny thing is, it wasn't too many years back that Rowling was a target of that very cancelling by the right, when conservative and religious groups advocated banning her books for supposedly promoting witchcraft and homosexuality. The right has always been able to make u-turns on a dime, whether screaming protests of spending during one administration and exploding it the next, or going from "Blue Lives Matter" to "kill him with his own gun." But the freedom about which they love to bleat and bellow continues to be a one-way street on their maps, even when they can't make up their minds which way they're going. You may see it as being harmless, but I don't. It's the first of many disclaimers that will need to be put before articles about any number of subjects. If the disclaimer were put before an article written by Rowling I wouldn't have said anything, though, in my view, she didn't say anything wrong. My point is that a disclaimer shouldn't need to be put because an author's books were mentioned. I find that worryingly ridiculous. If the hill you wish to defend is one on which a content warning is the ultimate indicator of societal insanity, it's all yours. It looks more like mountains from molehills to me, but look on the bright side: if such warnings become as ubiquitous as you fear, nobody will pay any attention to them, so there's that.
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Post by Morgana on Jul 30, 2021 12:31:03 GMT
You may see it as being harmless, but I don't. It's the first of many disclaimers that will need to be put before articles about any number of subjects. If the disclaimer were put before an article written by Rowling I wouldn't have said anything, though, in my view, she didn't say anything wrong. My point is that a disclaimer shouldn't need to be put because an author's books were mentioned. I find that worryingly ridiculous. If the hill you wish to defend is one on which a content warning is the ultimate indicator of societal insanity, it's all yours. It looks more like mountains from molehills to me, but look on the bright side: if such warnings become as ubiquitous as you fear, nobody will pay any attention to them, so there's that. You see it as a trifling thing, I don't. It's a slippery slope where a writer, or the site, think a warning needs to be given before an article because someone said something they didn't agree with. I see it as political correctness gone bonkers. Here is a video you might, or might not, like. I love it.
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Post by Sarge on Jul 31, 2021 5:56:06 GMT
I used to think that dittos were overreacting and silly when they talked about "trigger warnings," but it turns out they were right all along. Makes me wonder sometimes...
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Post by Morgana on Jul 31, 2021 10:23:09 GMT
I used to think that dittos were overreacting and silly when they talked about "trigger warnings," but it turns out they were right all along. Makes me wonder sometimes... What are dittos?
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Post by Sarge on Jul 31, 2021 22:52:54 GMT
I used to think that dittos were overreacting and silly when they talked about "trigger warnings," but it turns out they were right all along. Makes me wonder sometimes... What are dittos? A fan of Rush Limbaugh. Back in the 90s they would call into the show and say, "ditto," or extend, "dittos," (a form of greeting) to show they agree with everything Rush said; eventually calling themselves dittoheads or dittos for short. A cult.
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Post by goz on Jul 31, 2021 23:05:17 GMT
How and why do you attribute this to the 'left'?
Whatever you think that is.
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Post by Sarge on Jul 31, 2021 23:32:12 GMT
How and why do you attribute this to the 'left'? Whatever you think that is. The Left is one of 2 major US political tribes, currently aligned with the Democratic Party. Sometimes called Liberals, but it's a mish-mash of ideologies (liberal and non-liberal) that are all opposed to the other major political tribe, The Right, which treats them like enemies. Don't think too hard on it, they don't. I don't know the history of the word, Woke, but it means you have awakened to inequalities built into our society. The Woke believe that equal opportunity is not enough, that everyone should receive equal treatment, which leads to The Right calling them Marxists.
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Post by goz on Jul 31, 2021 23:35:21 GMT
How and why do you attribute this to the 'left'? Whatever you think that is. The Left is one of 2 major US political tribes, currently aligned with the Democratic Party. Sometimes called Liberals, but it's a mish-mash of ideologies (liberal and non-liberal) that are all opposed to the other major political tribe, The Right, which treats them like enemies. Don't think too hard on it, they don't. I don't know the history of the word, Woke, but it means you have awakened to inequalities built into our society. The Woke believe that equal opportunity is not enough, that everyone should receive equal treatment, which leads to The Right calling them Marxists. Thanks. I know all that. I was just curious about how and why the OP attributed this particular thing to 'the left' and wokeness. There doesn't seem to be a discernable logical link...at least to me.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 1, 2021 0:43:44 GMT
Content Warning: This post discusses noted transphobic author J.K. Rowling and her wizard series.
I am totally in support of transgender people but I personally believe everything has a place. A list of "Fastest Selling Books in U.S. History" isn't an appropriate place to bring politics. But people are eager now a days to bring politics everywhere (irrespective of their political denomination). I am on no social media, facebook, twitter, instagram etc etc because I try to avoid seeing opinions of people who are too political. I don't even read news except for news on things like Coronavirus, travel, sports, food and a few other topics. The only forum I post on is IMDV v2 and here too mainly on the sports board.
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Post by Morgana on Aug 1, 2021 9:15:35 GMT
How and why do you attribute this to the 'left'? Whatever you think that is. I was so upset after reading 'the warning' that I came on and went on a diatribe against it. I have nothing against the left, I used to see myself as one, but now I'm probably more of a centrist - if there is such a thing.
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