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Post by staggerstag on Aug 8, 2021 10:54:01 GMT
1st, 2nd, 3rd favourites :
Newly promoted Watford's coach Munoz leads the rather open field with just 38 games in his career so far, 11 of those at Dinamo Tibilisi where he helped win them the title. Overall managerial win rate 68.42%.
Patrick Viera, 49.10% win rate over 179 games with New York City and OSG Nice, arrives as second favourite and will have heard about the Frank de Boer 5 game tenure at Selhurst Park in 2017 but will hope not to be dispatched in similar fashion should he get off to an equally poor start of four losses in the first five games at Palace.
Steve Bruce, overall win rate 37.90%, enjoyed 16 points from the last 24 and lifted Newcastle to a finish of 12th place, relieving some of the pressure heaped on him by all four corners of Tyneside and of course from all the dark nasty crevices of Twatter and suchlike. But he knows the hounding is just a-waiting round the corner should Newcastle not come out on the front foot in the opening games.
Xisco Munoz (Watford)
5/1
Patrick Vieira (C Palace)
7/1
Steve Bruce (Newcastle)
9/1
Mikel Arteta (Arsenal)
10/1
Ralph Hasenhuttl (Southampton)
10/1
Rafael Benitez (Everton)
12/1
Bruno Lage (Wolves)
14/1
Daniel Farke (Norwich)
14/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Man U)
14/1
Thomas Frank (Brentford)
14/1
Graham Potter (Brighton)
16/1
Nuno Espirito Santo (Tottenham)
16/1
Sean Dyche (Burnley)
16/1
Dean Smith (A Villa)
18/1
David Moyes (West Ham)
20/1
Marcelo Bielsa (Leeds)
25/1
Thomas Tuchel (Chelsea)
25/1
Brendan Rodgers (Leicester)
33/1
Jurgen Klopp (Liverpool)
50/1
Pep Guardiola (Man C)
50/1
No Manager To Leave
500/1
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 8, 2021 12:28:01 GMT
It’s gotta be Bruce surely.
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Post by sdm3 on Aug 8, 2021 12:29:40 GMT
Hasenhuttl is on thin ice with a squad that I can see battling relegation.
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Post by staggerstag on Aug 8, 2021 12:46:10 GMT
It’s gotta be Bruce surely. Newcastle lose its opening game to West Ham at St James' and just watch the crap heaped on Bruce. But he keeps going!
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Post by staggerstag on Aug 8, 2021 12:51:35 GMT
Hasenhuttl is on thin ice with a squad that I can see battling relegation. Nuno at Tottenham is my fancy for one of the first to go, or at least not to last the season. But the question of replacing managers always remains so unless Tottenham languish in the lower half he might get another season. Yes, Husenhutti has to face the two Manchester clubs and Everton and West Ham in his first 5 outings. The other game is versus Bruce.
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Post by staggerstag on Aug 27, 2021 23:23:13 GMT
Arteta is now odds-on to be the first head on the chopping block. With Man City up next, it's vital that Arsenal take maximum points from the following two games - Norwich and Burnley. That's followed by the North London derby on September 26th. Somehow, some way, he's gotta turn things around between then and now. With Tottenham on maximum points, yet to concede and Kane back in the mix, 19th place Arsenal's next 3 games are probably as important as any in recent times, you have to say.
ARTETA 5/6
VIEIRA 9/2
BRUCE 8/1
MUNOZ 8/1
HASENHUTTI 12/1
LAGE 16/1
20/1 BAR
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Post by staggerstag on Aug 27, 2021 23:24:43 GMT
...and Nuno is set to take my words and shove them back down my throat - and jolly fair play to him. I know when I've got egg on my face.
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Post by MrFurious on Aug 28, 2021 11:59:34 GMT
...and Nuno is set to take my words and shove them back down my throat - and jolly fair play to him. I know when I've got egg on my face. 
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Post by WullieFort on Aug 28, 2021 12:30:54 GMT
Arteta must be odds on. A little gunner tells that a certain manager called Conte is rubbing his hands in anticipation
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Aug 28, 2021 15:20:01 GMT
1st, 2nd, 3rd favourites : Newly promoted Watford's coach Munoz leads the rather open field with just 38 games in his career so far, 11 of those at Dinamo Tibilisi where he helped win them the title. Overall managerial win rate 68.42%. Patrick Viera, 49.10% win rate over 179 games with New York City and OSG Nice, arrives as second favourite and will have heard about the Frank de Boer 5 game tenure at Selhurst Park in 2017 but will hope not to be dispatched in similar fashion should he get off to an equally poor start of four losses in the first five games at Palace. Steve Bruce, overall win rate 37.90%, enjoyed 16 points from the last 24 and lifted Newcastle to a finish of 12th place, relieving some of the pressure heaped on him by all four corners of Tyneside and of course from all the dark nasty crevices of Twatter and suchlike. But he knows the hounding is just a-waiting round the corner should Newcastle not come out on the front foot in the opening games. Xisco Munoz (Watford) 5/1 Patrick Vieira (C Palace) 7/1 Steve Bruce (Newcastle) 9/1 Mikel Arteta (Arsenal) 10/1 Ralph Hasenhuttl (Southampton) 10/1 Rafael Benitez (Everton) 12/1 Bruno Lage (Wolves) 14/1 Daniel Farke (Norwich) 14/1 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Man U) 14/1 Thomas Frank (Brentford) 14/1 Graham Potter (Brighton) 16/1 Nuno Espirito Santo (Tottenham) 16/1 Sean Dyche (Burnley) 16/1 Dean Smith (A Villa) 18/1 David Moyes (West Ham) 20/1 Marcelo Bielsa (Leeds) 25/1 Thomas Tuchel (Chelsea) 25/1 Brendan Rodgers (Leicester) 33/1 Jurgen Klopp (Liverpool) 50/1 Pep Guardiola (Man C) 50/1 No Manager To Leave 500/1 what job will jorge sampaoli take over? chelsea?
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Post by staggerstag on Aug 28, 2021 21:10:11 GMT
So after a day of Saturday action, of which I saw the square root of nothing, Mikel Arteta's odds have plummeted to 4/9 from 5/6. "I question myself", he is reported to have said after the 5-0 hammering by Man City. Mesut Ozil got in on the act by tweeting a read-between-the-lines tweet of "trust the process" accompanied by broken heart and anxious-face emojis, although quite what Arsenal has to do with him anymore is up for debate and they themselves can only "reflect and look in the mirror" as Aubameyang opined after the game.
But if you look into the mirror at a depressing reflection, it'll surely make you more depressed. The mirror needs smashing and real life on the pitch needs to be taken by the scruff of the neck, surely. It feels strange to say that Arsenal's next two games are relegation dog-fights but in 20th position they play Norwich (19th) followed by Burnley (18th) Surely to god the points are there for them - even so, it's hardly a given, the way things have started.
Any replacement for him is completely up in the air. Bookmaker Paddy Power have thrown a few names together for mug punters to consider, but would you take the following book seriously?
Next Permanent Arsenal Manager
Brendan Rodgers 2/1
Eddie Howe 4/1
Antonio Conte 6/1
and a plethora of others, from Steven Gerrard to Diego Simione.
Can you see Arsenal actually sacking him before Christmas? I can't, I think he'll be there at least to the end of the year, come what may. 21.5 years of Wenger has rather torn up the form-book regarding sackings at Arsenal. Emery went with a 55% win rate and Arteta is currently on 51%.
You don't want to see a man lose his job but when that man turns around and says "I question myself" it's hardly pay-rise territory, is it.
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 29, 2021 10:29:37 GMT
Why the actual F- -k would Brendan Rogers leave Leicester to manage Arsenal ?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 29, 2021 15:25:00 GMT
Bielsa
2 points after 3 games, time to get rid of him. He has done what he can for Leeds.
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Post by staggerstag on Aug 29, 2021 21:34:42 GMT
Why the actual F- -k would Brendan Rogers leave Leicester to manage Arsenal ? It's a fool's market. Let's have a good laugh and take a look at what another bookmaker, Betfair, is offering to punters with more money than sense, but then again the type of punter who engages this kind of market will already have no money, so : NEXT PERMANANT ARSENAL MANAGER Brendan Rodgers 2/1 Eddie Howe 4/1 Antonio Conte 4/1 Graham Potter 10/1 Ralph Hasenhuttl 11/1 Christophe Galtier (OSG Nice) 12/1 Roberto Martinez 14/1 Gian Piero Gasperini (Atalanta) 14/1 Steven Gerrard 14/1 Paulo Fonseca 14/1 Freddie Ljungberg 16/1 Sean Dyche 20/1 Thierry Henry 22/1 Sol Campbell 22/1 Maurizio Sarri 25/1 Rafa Benitez 25/1 Diego Simeone 25/1 Marco Rose 25/1 Massimiliano Allegri 33/1 Patrick Vieira 33/1 Julian Nagelsmann 33/1 Sam Allardyce 33/1 Arsene Wenger ( hey nutsberryfarm 🏜 have a punt) 40/1
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Post by MrFurious on Aug 29, 2021 21:40:30 GMT
Depressing stuff. Had ManCity win, Chelsea dc and ManU win bet lined up and never did it. Sickening. Fair play to that Wolves manager, he almost caught them.
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Post by darkshines on Aug 30, 2021 0:22:24 GMT
...and Nuno is set to take my words and shove them back down my throat - and jolly fair play to him. I know when I've got egg on my face.  
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Post by staggerstag on Sept 27, 2021 14:06:58 GMT
It's a relatively open field up front with Steve Bruce and Nuno vying for pole position. Bruce is as low as 5/2 with one bookie, countering the 4/1 at another. Nuno is a best-price 7/2 and 4s generally. Munoz, Farke and Viera aren't far behind with Arteta not out of the fire at a best priced 7s.
Hasenhutti is value at 12-16/1 with winless Saints a point above the drop zone.
It is testament to Brentford's fine start that 40/1 Thomas Frank finds himself in the same bracket as 2 of the EPL's top-rated managers, and David Moyes.
Sk*Bet
Bruce 3
Nuno 7/2
Arteta 11/2
Farke 6
Munoz 6
Vieira 10
Lage 14
Bielsa 14
Hasenhutti 16
Solskjaer 22
Dyche 25
Smith 25
Rodgers 28
Benitez 33
Potter 33
Frank 40
Guardiola 40
Moyes 40
Tuchel 40
Klopp 50
Nobody 100
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Post by MrFurious on Sept 27, 2021 19:32:50 GMT
Cant believe Ole is 22, Ronaldo will get him out the door if they lose their next few games. I think Conte is out there waiting in the wings.
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Post by WullieFort on Sept 28, 2021 10:40:23 GMT
Amazing what 90 minutes can do!
Arteta was about to start packing his bags on Sunday morning but now he is being hailed as the next Wenger!! (I'm not sure if that's a compliment or some sarcasm). However, Arsenal's demolition of Spurs seems to have changed the world's perception of him. In contrast Nuno, the Holy Ghost looks even more of a misfit at Levyland than Jose did.
Norwich's faith in and loyalty to Daniel Farke is beginning to look a little naive.
"They've had some really tough matches to play in the opening weeks of the season" his supporters say. This is the EPL, kiddo. ALL matches are tough. At Leeds, Bielsa's idiosyncrasies are beginning to look exactly what they are...silly. His team has lots of talent but they are not going anywhere. Maybe he needs to take a good look at them instead of studying for his agronomy degree. As for OGS, FFS!!. The situation with Sancho is embarrassing and his whinging about being refused penalties because allegedly, every referee believes that Klopp is a righteous man is unlikely to inspire his troops into playing with manful pride. Shut up, Olly. They don't need another fine mess.
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Post by staggerstag on Oct 3, 2021 21:21:11 GMT
So 5/1 shot Munoz is first to go, following Watford's decision to sack its 6th or 7th manager in about 4 years. He worked for 5 months last season finishing the job of promotion and is gone after, what, 10.
The book now goes 3/1 Bruce, 7/2 Nuno and 6/1 Farke and Solskjaer.
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