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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 12, 2021 17:24:04 GMT
Hollywood keep remaking every 80s horror film, surprised they haven't got around to that one.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Aug 12, 2021 20:08:14 GMT
It probably would be cancelled. The killer turns to be a tranny which means that if any minority is a villain it's frowned upon by the LGBT community. Unless they can avoid it somehow but the twist in the original is such an important moment I can't see how it could be. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Aug 12, 2021 22:45:09 GMT
Probably because of the controversial ending.
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Post by spooner5020 on Aug 13, 2021 0:49:49 GMT
Honestly that ending was dumb. I didn’t think much of it when I first watched it months ago. I was expecting something else from that ending, but whatever.
I think a remake has been in the works for a while.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 13, 2021 1:03:27 GMT
The ending would certainly rankle a lot of feathers if it was retained in a remake.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Aug 13, 2021 8:29:02 GMT
Agree about the ending thing being too controversial today, but a lot of 80s slashers never got a remake. And thank god for that. The 1983 film is a horror classic and I will bestow a curse on any film maker who attempts to remake it.
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Post by kolchak92 on Aug 13, 2021 17:24:48 GMT
Everyone (and I mean everyone) who would have any connection to it would be blacklisted from Hollywood.
Psycho is apparently considered "transphobic" now, Psycho. So you could only imagine the reaction that Sleepaway Camp would get.
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Post by jonesjxd on Aug 17, 2021 0:04:30 GMT
It probably would be cancelled. The killer turns to be a tranny which means that if any minority is a villain it's frowned upon by the LGBT community. Unless they can avoid it somehow but the twist in the original is such an important moment I can't see how it could be. I'm not advocating remaking Sleepaway Camp, but there is a way to do the character where it would be embraced by that community. Make a good movie with a villain with good development, motivation, that defies stereotype and is just plain fun to watch do their thing and you'll have a hit. I think back to Gone Girl, there was controversy around the idea of a movie having a womanizer as the hero and a relentless evil woman as the villain/anti-hero, but the movie was a hit.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Aug 17, 2021 2:05:15 GMT
It probably would be cancelled. The killer turns to be a tranny which means that if any minority is a villain it's frowned upon by the LGBT community. Unless they can avoid it somehow but the twist in the original is such an important moment I can't see how it could be. I'm not advocating remaking Sleepaway Camp, but there is a way to do the character where it would be embraced by that community. Make a good movie with a villain with good development, motivation, that defies stereotype and is just plain fun to watch do their thing and you'll have a hit. I think back to Gone Girl, there was controversy around the idea of a movie having a womanizer as the hero and a relentless evil woman as the villain/anti-hero, but the movie was a hit. That could probably work. I think if she were more spontaneous like in 2 and 3 that would go well with the approach you're talking about.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 17, 2021 2:41:36 GMT
They could always flip it and make Angela the protagonist...it wouldn't be the first slasher remake to change who the killer is (My Bloody Valentine comes to mind).
I also think it's worth pointing out that the transgender serial killer is a well worn (heh) cliche, and while that community can be a little sensitive, I can't really blame them for being tired of that one.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Aug 17, 2021 2:47:29 GMT
I'd be curious to see whom they cast as Aunt Martha.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Aug 17, 2021 3:16:46 GMT
It probably would be cancelled. The killer turns to be a tranny which means that if any minority is a villain it's frowned upon by the LGBT community. Unless they can avoid it somehow but the twist in the original is such an important moment I can't see how it could be. You are correct in that their would be outcry, but the killer isn't really a trans person imo. As far as I remember, in Sleepaway Camp the killer was forced to dress and act like a female by his crazy mother. Now, the movie might have been trying to say that that is what a trans person is, but I don't think that was the intent. The killer is more akin to Buffalo Bill, though The Silence of the Lambs goes out of it's way to make a distinction. The fact that the trans community complain about that movie, tells me they would go after a remake of Sleepaway Camp with no mercy. Actually, you're right about that. Didn't realize that's the actual case. I don't think there was any indication that the brother was trans so it mustn't have been the intent. Though, that means it would likely be offensive to crossdressers then.  But then again if the trans community will be complaining about SOTL then there's a good chance a SC remake will get the same treatment. I can see there being a remake or sequel made without getting into popular distribution, maybe it can avoid the controversy that way.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 17, 2021 3:27:58 GMT
You are correct in that their would be outcry, but the killer isn't really a trans person imo. As far as I remember, in Sleepaway Camp the killer was forced to dress and act like a female by his crazy mother. Now, the movie might have been trying to say that that is what a trans person is, but I don't think that was the intent. The killer is more akin to Buffalo Bill, though The Silence of the Lambs goes out of it's way to make a distinction. The fact that the trans community complain about that movie, tells me they would go after a remake of Sleepaway Camp with no mercy. Actually, you're right about that. Didn't realize that's the actual case. I don't think there was any indication that the brother was trans so it mustn't have been the intent. Though, that means it would likely be offensive to crossdressers then. But then again if the trans community will be complaining about SOTL then there's a good chance a SC remake will get the same treatment. I can see there being a remake or sequel made without getting into popular distribution, maybe it can avoid the controversy that way. This stuff is tricky and the ideas in the movie about identity might have been interesting if it didn't come off as so silly. Also, it isn't as original as most people think it is. It is basically Friday the 13th combined with Homicidal (1961)
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Post by jamesbamesy on Aug 17, 2021 3:44:15 GMT
Actually, you're right about that. Didn't realize that's the actual case. I don't think there was any indication that the brother was trans so it mustn't have been the intent. Though, that means it would likely be offensive to crossdressers then. But then again if the trans community will be complaining about SOTL then there's a good chance a SC remake will get the same treatment. I can see there being a remake or sequel made without getting into popular distribution, maybe it can avoid the controversy that way. This stuff is tricky and the ideas in the movie about identity might have been interesting if it didn't come off as so silly. Also, it isn't as original as most people think it is. It is basically Friday the 13th combined with Homicidal (1961) It's also got some Terror Train mixed in there, if you know what I mean. The movie in spoiler tags delves into similar themes I take it?
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 17, 2021 3:47:41 GMT
This stuff is tricky and the ideas in the movie about identity might have been interesting if it didn't come off as so silly. Also, it isn't as original as most people think it is. It is basically Friday the 13th combined with Homicidal (1961) It's also got some Terror Train mixed in there, if you know what I mean. The movie in spoiler tags delves into similar themes I take it?
The twist is nearly identical.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 17, 2021 3:56:27 GMT
OK so regarding the controversial ending, it should be noted Angela/Peter wasn't really "transgender" (the gender assignment was forced upon him by the aunt). Interesting enough there was a real life social experiment of sorts not dissimilar from the movie ending, a rabbi was performing a bris and accidently hacked off way too much, so the parents decided to raise him as a girl, he developed severe emotional problems (just to clarify he wasn't actually transgender) and committed suicide. In fact interestingly enough, the movie ending could actually be interpreted as an argument for transgenderism (forcing people to gender assignments they don't adhere to can lead to bad outcomes).
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Post by jamesbamesy on Aug 17, 2021 4:10:43 GMT
It's also got some Terror Train mixed in there, if you know what I mean. The movie in spoiler tags delves into similar themes I take it?
The twist is nearly identical. Huh. Robert Hiltzik, you got some explaining to do!
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 17, 2021 4:13:27 GMT
OK so regarding the controversial ending, it should be noted Angela/Peter wasn't really "transgender" (the gender assignment was forced upon him by the aunt). Interesting enough there was a real life social experiment of sorts not dissimilar from the movie ending, a rabbi was performing a bris and accidently hacked off way too much, so the parents decided to raise him as a girl, he developed severe emotional problems (just to clarify he wasn't actually transgender) and committed suicide. In fact interestingly enough, the movie ending could actually be interpreted as an argument for transgenderism (forcing people to gender assignments they don't adhere to can lead to bad outcomes).I saw that as the whole point.
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Post by moviemouth on Aug 17, 2021 4:14:29 GMT
The twist is nearly identical. Huh. Robert Hiltzik, you got some explaining to do! Keep in mind that Homicidal itself is a rip-off of Psycho. It was piggybacking of the Psycho's success, being released the following year.
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Post by jamesbamesy on Aug 17, 2021 4:18:36 GMT
Huh. Robert Hiltzik, you got some explaining to do! Keep in mind that Homicidal itself is a rip-off of Psycho. It was piggybacking of the Psycho's success, being released the following year. Oh. It's like Psycho introduced the idea of a male killer resembling a woman and other movies took this concept and went all out with it huh?
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