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Post by teleadm on Aug 17, 2021 17:15:39 GMT
In the case of She 1935, and I'm writing from memory, was that it was planned as a Technicolor movie, all sets and decors and clothes were made to suit color, but in the last minute RKO cut the budget short, for reasons I've forgotten. The movie was made anyway with sets etc. that wasn't suited for black-and-white. So for that reason and that reason only that I watched the colorized version, but if it was colorized correctly according to original color schemes I'm not the man to say.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Aug 17, 2021 17:20:35 GMT
I 'd say no. I don't like the look of it.
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Post by lune7000 on Aug 18, 2021 0:38:54 GMT
... the decline in interest in classic movies will continue ... Do you have any evidence for that? I am not disputing it, you may well be right. But in which past decades did more people watch movies that are over 40 years old? Did people in the 1970s watch more films from the 1930s than we today watch films from the 1970s? Maybe. I just do not know. About 3 months ago I got really interested in the history of film and read or scanned @ 20 books and a couple of dozen internet articles and this is what I remember: 1. I ran across a bunch of interviews with older professors of film where a number of them said that the knowledge of classic cinema among new students has sharply declined during their tenure. They said many incoming students hardly knew any classic films or stars vs. when they taught in the 1980's. 2. I also ran into an article that indicated streaming/subscription services have dropped a lot of classic titles due to declining demand. I guess Netflix (or whoever does this) used to mail out a number of classic DVD's years ago but it's gone down a lot since then. 3. I ran into another article that indicated the decline in exposure was due to the fact that TV in the period 1960-1990 exposed young people to classic films by showing them as TV movies but that this practice sharply declined in the 1980's. Today there are so many entertainment options that interest in many forms of traditional media is in decline. Network TV, sports, news shows and newspapers, magazines, etc. are all falling rapidly. It's scaring a lot of people in those fields. You Tube, Video Games, social media are all booming. It's sad but, if trends keep this way, I see classic cinema going the way of silent film. If I had to guess, I would say over 70% of the people on this forum are over 50 years old- the pipeline doesn't look good.
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Post by lune7000 on Aug 18, 2021 0:46:31 GMT
Out of curiosity, not opposed to colorization, but would prefer majority of effort be put into restoring the original b&w. This is a worthy goal too- and one that worries me. There was a period of time where rich people and endowments donated money for restoration but, as the most popular films were restored, the pace has declined. I am shocked at how many classic films still look awful. A big part of the problem is that they are still owned by corporations that will not lower profits by dedicating much money to their older properties. These films need to be released into public domain and donated to non-profits to take up the cause via crowdfunding. Each year that passes by is an enemy to celluloid and we are losing a priceless heritage.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 18, 2021 20:34:00 GMT
In the case of She 1935, and I'm writing from memory, was that it was planned as a Technicolor movie, all sets and decors and clothes were made to suit color, but in the last minute RKO cut the budget short, for reasons I've forgotten. The movie was made anyway with sets etc. that wasn't suited for black-and-white. So for that reason and that reason only that I watched the colorized version, but if it was colorized correctly according to original color schemes I'm not the man to say. I’ve only seen that movie in color and I thought it looked decent. |
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Post by jervistetch on Aug 18, 2021 21:25:52 GMT
Let me think about it.  No! |
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Post by Archelaus on Aug 18, 2021 21:32:57 GMT
Black-and-white fantasy and adventure movies may benefit from a colorization process, but both color and black-and-white are totally different cinematographic techniques. One Technicolor film would not easily translate into black-and-white and vice versa.
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Post by amyghost on Aug 18, 2021 21:44:58 GMT
Absolutely not. There's a reason B&W films invariably look peculiar when colorized, even in a good colorization process. Everything visual in the film, from lighting to makeup, was crafted specifically around the particular needs of filming in black and white. The techniques used differed fundamentally from those used for filming in color and it's impossible to mask those differences through colorization; the finished product will pretty much always read as essentially visually wrong.
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Post by louise on Aug 22, 2021 12:42:32 GMT
I really prefer to see films as they were made.
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Post by Isapop on Aug 22, 2021 15:32:27 GMT
Let me think about it. No! Reminds me of a funny line in Gremlins 2: The New Batch. A PA system announcement for a wealthy mogul's TV station: "Tonight on Movie Classics...Casablanca. Now in color, AND with a happier ending!"
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