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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2017 16:45:08 GMT
Oddly enough I prefer the one off format to the old ST episodes but I agree that isn't the direction to go anymore. I'm a dinosaur when it comes to that stuff, the world has moved on.
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Post by bluerisk on May 18, 2017 17:55:09 GMT
Is there a single white actor left or did Hollywood complete the cultural genocide on my race?
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Post by knowlto on May 18, 2017 18:07:28 GMT
Oddly enough I prefer the one off format to the old ST episodes but I agree that isn't the direction to go anymore. I'm a dinosaur when it comes to that stuff, the world has moved on. I like series with mostly self-contained stories, but with an overall story arc that is referenced and progresses as the series goes on.
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Post by marsexplorer on May 18, 2017 18:16:46 GMT
It looks visually stunning, but I already have a problem with one thing. If this is pre Kirk why does there seem to be so many women Starship Captains? In Kirk's world women are relegated to communication officers and nurses.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 18, 2017 19:56:18 GMT
Oddly enough I prefer the one off format to the old ST episodes but I agree that isn't the direction to go anymore. I'm a dinosaur when it comes to that stuff, the world has moved on. I like series with mostly self-contained stories, but with an overall story arc that is referenced and progresses as the series goes on. Exactly how I feel. A problem of the week with an overall story arc is the best. TNG didn't necessarily have an overarching storyline per se, but it did reference things that happened in previous episodes and had continuing themes with various characters (Data's quest to be human, Worf's son, etc.) I thought it was a great way to have a problem of the week while keeping an ongoing arc for each character so they weren't completely static. I'd say the biggest plus for this format is it eliminates filler. The more moving parts you have in a story arc, the more stalling is involved, along with nonsensical decision making by the characters in order to keep the plot from being resolved too quickly.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 20:44:43 GMT
DS9 got it completely right in my book. Dark, political and an ongoing narrative.
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Post by sdm3 on May 18, 2017 21:55:13 GMT
The only thing that looks promising is the 13 episode long arc. 20+ episodic installments that have nothing to do with each other has had its day. Fewer episodes plus a season long arc is the way to go. 15 episodes actually.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 22:00:57 GMT
Damn, they've already upped it. It was definitely supposed to be 13, wasn't it?
The delays and removal of Fuller aside, this also doesn't bode well.
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Post by sdm3 on May 18, 2017 22:02:30 GMT
Yes there have been a great deal of issues already. I like the trailer but it's hard not to be a little worried.
Please be better than Voyager, please be better than Voyager...
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Post by sdm3 on May 20, 2017 5:11:06 GMT
I wish they'd quit making prequels. I'm a lot more interested in a story when I don't know how it's going to turn out. Also, why does their ship look so much more futuristic than Kirk's Enterprise if it's supposed to be taking place 10 years earlier? I wanted to go back and respond to this. You're mistaking the advancement in production values for advancement in in-universe technology. It would be beyond ridiculous for a 2017 series to adopt the aesthetics of 1966 just because it's supposed to be a prequel, for the reason that the makers of TOS featuring Kirk's Enterprise were only capable of rendering a vision of the future using the limited resources available to them at that time. 50 years later, budgets and technology have advanced far beyond what the makers of TOS could have dreamed of, and Discovery's team are rightfully taking advantage of that. How laughable would it be to see the crew using huge block computers and tricorders bigger than bricks, surrounded by blinking lightbulbs while the computer voice screeches "WORKING, WORKING" today?
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Post by knowlto on May 21, 2017 20:21:08 GMT
I wish they'd quit making prequels. I'm a lot more interested in a story when I don't know how it's going to turn out. Also, why does their ship look so much more futuristic than Kirk's Enterprise if it's supposed to be taking place 10 years earlier? I wanted to go back and respond to this. You're mistaking the advancement in production values for advancement in in-universe technology. It would be beyond ridiculous for a 2017 series to adopt the aesthetics of 1966 just because it's supposed to be a prequel, for the reason that the makers of TOS featuring Kirk's Enterprise were only capable of rendering a vision of the future using the limited resources available to them at that time. 50 years later, budgets and technology have advanced far beyond what the makers of TOS could have dreamed of, and Discovery's team are rightfully taking advantage of that. How laughable would it be to see the crew using huge block computers and tricorders bigger than bricks, surrounded by blinking lightbulbs while the computer voice screeches "WORKING, WORKING" today? It would be laughable, but that's the technology they were using. That's part of why prequels suck.
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