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Post by hi224 on Aug 20, 2021 7:36:25 GMT
Fernandes.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Aug 20, 2021 9:06:53 GMT
Harry Maguire
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Post by sdm3 on Aug 20, 2021 10:42:00 GMT
Probably Rashford, then Shaw.
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 20, 2021 14:17:34 GMT
Greenwood. I’m hoping it will be Sancho by Christmas.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Aug 20, 2021 14:21:05 GMT
Now, nada. But, if I had been able to watch back in the day, I would have been a big Eric Cantona fan. And Roy Keane, until he maimed a player.
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Post by nogbad on Aug 20, 2021 14:34:58 GMT
Given that my disinterest in English football has now reached such a profound level as to be almost spiritual, I struggle to name any of their players aside from Rashford (who annoys all the right people), Maguire (who looks like the offspring of a rat and an onion) and Lingard; so I'll go for the latter as he seems to be quite good when given the opportunity.
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 20, 2021 15:08:46 GMT
Now, nada. But, if I had been able to watch back in the day, I would have been a big Eric Cantona fan. And Roy Keane, until he maimed a player. So your fandom of Keane would’ve lasted 5 minutes, 10 tops ?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Aug 20, 2021 15:26:47 GMT
Now, nada. But, if I had been able to watch back in the day, I would have been a big Eric Cantona fan. And Roy Keane, until he maimed a player. So your fandom of Keane would’ve lasted 5 minutes, 10 tops ? Not sure, to tell he truth. During his playing heyday, we didn't get European football over here. America was exposed to the EPL as much as Mongolian Professional Badminton League. I'm just going by youTube clips and what I've read. I thought the Alf Haaland incident was a bit over the edge (lucky he didn't have a gun?) but I thought that was near the end of his career.
When I was younger, there was an American football team, the Oakland Raiders. Probably as close to a "second team" as I've ever had. The Raiders had a reputation for 'dirty play". Somewhat deserved, somewhat not. They were fun to watch, with players like Jack Tatum, "The Assassin", Ted Hendricks "The Mad Stork", Ken Stabler, "The Snake". Seems like they were a US Manchester United. Also, they had a history for last second wins
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 20, 2021 16:34:59 GMT
So your fandom of Keane would’ve lasted 5 minutes, 10 tops ? Not sure, to tell he truth. During his playing heyday, we didn't get European football over here. America was exposed to the EPL as much as Mongolian Professional Badminton League. I'm just going by youTube clips and what I've read. I thought the Alf Haaland incident was a bit over the edge (lucky he didn't have a gun?) but I thought that was near the end of his career.
When I was younger, there was an American football team, the Oakland Raiders. Probably as close to a "second team" as I've ever had. The Raiders had a reputation for 'dirty play". Somewhat deserved, somewhat not. They were fun to watch, with players like Jack Tatum, "The Assassin", Ted Hendricks "The Mad Stork", Ken Stabler, "The Snake". Seems like they were a US Manchester United. Also, they had a history for last second wins
Keane was a hard man. His duels with Patrick Vieira (Man Utd v Arsenal) were absolutely legendary. Oddly though, despite Keane and Cantona, Man Utd have always been known more for their attacking flair and panache rather than defensive steel. The team you need is Wimbledon FC, and the man your after is Vinnie Jones. Mad as a cut snake, a real firebrand, and Wimbledon shocked the establishment several times…..
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Aug 20, 2021 17:09:10 GMT
Not sure, to tell he truth. During his playing heyday, we didn't get European football over here. America was exposed to the EPL as much as Mongolian Professional Badminton League. I'm just going by youTube clips and what I've read. I thought the Alf Haaland incident was a bit over the edge (lucky he didn't have a gun?) but I thought that was near the end of his career.
When I was younger, there was an American football team, the Oakland Raiders. Probably as close to a "second team" as I've ever had. The Raiders had a reputation for 'dirty play". Somewhat deserved, somewhat not. They were fun to watch, with players like Jack Tatum, "The Assassin", Ted Hendricks "The Mad Stork", Ken Stabler, "The Snake". Seems like they were a US Manchester United. Also, they had a history for last second wins
Keane was a hard man. His duels with Patrick Vieira (Man Utd v Arsenal) were absolutely legendary. Oddly though, despite Keane and Cantona, Man Utd have always been known more for their attacking flair and panache rather than defensive steel. The team you need is Wimbledon FC, and the man your after is Vinnie Jones. Mad as a cut snake, a real firebrand, and Wimbledon shocked the establishment several times….. I read tales of Leeds and Millwall being dirty, but not sure if it was the players or the fans. I watched the Damned United but I read that wasn't too accurate.
There was an offensive (apt word) lineman in the 70's, Conrad Dobler. he might have been the dirtiest player in any sport in history. He was an expert at insulting, biting, leg whipping, ball kicking/twisting. Players opposing him would have to take themselves out of the game for a play or two to get the spit off their faces. Dobler went a bit beyond. Absolutely no way he would get away with it now.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Aug 24, 2021 14:11:48 GMT
Keane was a hard man. His duels with Patrick Vieira (Man Utd v Arsenal) were absolutely legendary. Oddly though, despite Keane and Cantona, Man Utd have always been known more for their attacking flair and panache rather than defensive steel. The team you need is Wimbledon FC, and the man your after is Vinnie Jones. Mad as a cut snake, a real firebrand, and Wimbledon shocked the establishment several times….. Oh yeah, those were the days. The classic 1997-2005 battles, (which I feel sums up their meetings and rivalry, both on the pitch and off) and I would always get very nervous whenever those giant matches would arrive, even if it was a few weeks away, it just kind of lied there at the back of the mind, like knowing it would be either heaven or "hell". Losing, either one or both of the games, usually meant the winner would go all the way, and also included a certain psychological advance. But there was always respect and a certain "hidden" (would never dare to admit it to my Arsenal supporting classmates) jelaousy towards how good some of the Wenger teams really were, around 1997-99 and then of course during the early 00s, before losing one key player after another, and where Chelsea arriving along with Roman and Mourinho at the helm, to stir up the dominance, and Arsenal never quite got back to their former heights, even if they for a few seasons, seemed to get their act together. But when it mattered the most, they just did not have the same strong and powerful personas, as Wenger's classic teams had so much of. That right balance of power and elegance, and where I guess Arsene later seemed to be more obssessed about the latter, and not so much about having powerful and strong players, both physically and mentally, which surely hurted him, more and more. I often seem to notice most fans rave about the Battle of Old Trafford (2003), The Battle of the Buffet (2004) and the 2005 match at Highbury, when speaking of classic and intense meetings between the heavy weights. But for me, I believe the first minutes of their FA Cup match in winter of 2003, was where it just seemed to reach a whole new kind of agressive nature, and where I wonder how many red cards, would be handed out, if it was played in todays game? Jeff Winter sure ended up having himself a rather busy workday:
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Post by sdm3 on Aug 24, 2021 14:19:11 GMT
Keane was a hard man. His duels with Patrick Vieira (Man Utd v Arsenal) were absolutely legendary. Oddly though, despite Keane and Cantona, Man Utd have always been known more for their attacking flair and panache rather than defensive steel. The team you need is Wimbledon FC, and the man your after is Vinnie Jones. Mad as a cut snake, a real firebrand, and Wimbledon shocked the establishment several times….. I read tales of Leeds and Millwall being dirty, but not sure if it was the players or the fans. I watched the Damned United but I read that wasn't too accurate.
There was an offensive (apt word) lineman in the 70's, Conrad Dobler. he might have been the dirtiest player in any sport in history. He was an expert at insulting, biting, leg whipping, ball kicking/twisting. Players opposing him would have to take themselves out of the game for a play or two to get the spit off their faces. Dobler went a bit beyond. Absolutely no way he would get away with it now.
To be honest Manchester United are nothing like the Raiders; they're pretty much a carbon copy of the Dallas Cowboys. Full to bursting with past success, fans everywhere, but held back recently by their front office and coaching staff.
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Post by Zos on Aug 25, 2021 8:29:26 GMT
Loathe the team and fans but will say Varane as he is not tainted in my eyes yet and is undoubtedly the best bit of business done this window .
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Post by weststigersbob on Aug 25, 2021 10:41:07 GMT
Loathe the team and fans but will say Varane as he is not tainted in my eyes yet and is undoubtedly the best bit of business done this window . I thought we were mates ?!? Varane, Maguire, Lindelof Impressive defence line …….
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Post by NJtoTX on Aug 25, 2021 11:28:27 GMT
George Best
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Post by Carl LaFong on Aug 25, 2021 12:19:40 GMT
Juan Mata. Lovely bloke.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Aug 25, 2021 12:29:26 GMT
Seems like a genuine nice guy, one of the few, where I cannot think of any opposite fans has anything bad to say about him, and it is kind of strange, that he has been at United since winter of 2014. Feels like a small enternity since Moyes purchased him, which I guess was his last transfer before getting the sack later that year. Sadly, his time at United never quite ended up as successful or dominant as his years at Chelsea. However, he did produce some stunning moments.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Aug 25, 2021 12:38:13 GMT
Out of todays Manchester United team, I guess my pick would be either Scott McTominay or Mason Greenwood. Love to see their passion, and while maybe McTominay will never become the next "big thing", he do from time to time, reminds me in a way of some of the "squad players" which Fergie often would benefit from when rotating his line up, specially duirng more hectical periods, with lots of games being played over a short time. Those classic workhorses, that would run through a brickwall for their boss and teammates, but would rarely get the same glamour and attention, as those with more flare and stardom to their names.
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Post by Zos on Aug 25, 2021 13:33:45 GMT
Loathe the team and fans but will say Varane as he is not tainted in my eyes yet and is undoubtedly the best bit of business done this window . I thought we were mates ?!? Varane, Maguire, Lindelof Impressive defence line ……. Sorry, didn't know, I'll make an exception. Utd, have a good line up this year, but not a good enough manager. Trouble is that he doesn't do bad enough to get replaced. Target for Utd, I would guess this year is to be competitive to the end. Finishing more than 6 points behind City and Chelsea would be a bad season/ Must get some silverware too.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 25, 2021 14:00:13 GMT
Paul Scholes
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