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Post by Mulder and Scully on Aug 25, 2021 21:55:20 GMT
One thing I don't understand is how some people are able to sue about something that happened decades ago.
Aren't there supposed to be statute of limitations to prevent this?
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 25, 2021 22:13:45 GMT
I've wondered about that too...
If it was such a big problem, at the time... then they should have complained, then...
or in the case, of the Nirvana Baby... You can do so for a short period when you become 18/21.
The Nirvana Baby is now in his younger 30s... If it was such and issue, he should have sued, 10 years ago. But why not?
Well, in his case, I think we know why... It wasn't a problem, then, since he has said it provided opportunities for him, but now it's just a way to get money...
And now, suddenly, the band and others are being sued...
I think there should be a statute of limitations for many things... This, idea, of suing people 30 years later, is BS.
Courts should have the policy of: "You Snooze, You Lose!"
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Post by novastar6 on Aug 25, 2021 22:51:54 GMT
I've wondered about that too... If it was such a big problem, at the time... then they should have complained, then... I think there should be a statute of limitations for many things... This, idea, of suing people 30 years later, is BS. Courts should have the policy of: " You Snooze, You Lose!"
For a lot of things I agree, but what about things that the people in question couldn't at the time? Like all those state school kids who were locked up in the 40s-50s and actually had moron stamped in their files as a medical diagnosis, and weren't even able to tell anyone, let alone speak up about it without fear of being sent back, until 20+ years later? Even once they were 18, they couldn't just leave, the cops would bring them back, so for many it was a long time before they could freely talk about it without fear of repercussions.
What about the children abused by the Catholic church that the archdiocese did their own internal investigations and built up THOUSANDS of reports on the cases, and did NOTHING about it?
How about the Vietnam Vets who were denied their disability benefits for FIFTY YEARS because the military and the government stalled them at every turn hoping they'd all die before they ever had to pay out for their cancer and shrapnel wounds and PTSD, always claiming those injuries and illnesses were pre-existing BEFORE the men went to Vietnam?
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Post by langdona on Aug 26, 2021 4:46:18 GMT
I mean....there are statute of limitations .. civil or criminal, its just that they vary from jurisdiction and depending on the offense. People will just take advantage of some things not having a limit on when you start legal procedures....I mean in those situations youre talking about I assume. People also get screwed over by waiting too long as well.
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Post by Sandman on Aug 26, 2021 15:37:32 GMT
One thing I don't understand is how some people are able to sue about something that happened decades ago. Aren't there supposed to be statute of limitations to prevent this? Here's what I don't get. These women that say they were raped years and years ago. I think most times when its a famous person these women come out of the woodwork claiming they were raped because they think they can get money from the famous guy. Or their own careers are going nowhere and they want publicly.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Aug 26, 2021 15:43:39 GMT
One thing I don't understand is how some people are able to sue about something that happened decades ago. Aren't there supposed to be statute of limitations to prevent this? Here's what I don't get. These women that say they were raped years and years ago. I think most times when its a famous person these women come out of the woodwork claiming they were raped because they think they can get money from the famous guy. Or their own careers are going nowhere and they want publicly. Some woman sued Bob Dylan for sexually abusing her when she was 12 yrs old in 1965. That's 56 years later. Ridiculous. That's just misuse of the law. |
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 26, 2021 17:02:08 GMT
Some people are just slow to react and they have rights too.  |
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Post by Sarge on Aug 27, 2021 2:12:46 GMT
The world is run by lawyers.
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Post by Mia on Aug 27, 2021 19:01:04 GMT
Some thing men will never understand is the trauma of rape and child abuse. Until recently, sexual assault and/or rape were invalidated and dismissed, by both genders, but especially by men. Women have been blamed for the victimization.
When it happens to you when you were a child during your formative years, the damage extends far beyond physical trauma. Expecting a 7 year old to come forward and report their father to the police is far-fetched. Even expecting them to come forward when they reach the age of 18 is still not grasping the extent of trauma of what one goes through as a child.
The actual brain development is altered when there's trauma at such a young age. There's shame, there's stigma, and social pressure.
I don't deny that there are people who abuse things like the #MeToo movement for personal gain. However the price we pay by neglecting victims when they come forward is perpetuating rape culture and the unnecessary burden of shame women carry.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 28, 2021 22:28:53 GMT
Some thing men will never understand is the trauma of rape and child abuse. Until recently, sexual assault and/or rape were invalidated and dismissed, by both genders, but especially by men. Women have been blamed for the victimization. When it happens to you when you were a child during your formative years, the damage extends far beyond physical trauma. Expecting a 7 year old to come forward and report their father to the police is far-fetched. Even expecting them to come forward when they reach the age of 18 is still not grasping the extent of trauma of what one goes through as a child. The actual brain development is altered when there's trauma at such a young age. There's shame, there's stigma, and social pressure. I don't deny that there are people who abuse things like the #MeToo movement for personal gain. However the price we pay by neglecting victims when they come forward is perpetuating rape culture and the unnecessary burden of shame women carry.
Men and boys are also victims of abuse and rape, as a rule, abusers are made by abusers. The reality of life is that some predators will escape justice, especially when the victim waits to come forward. If you are raped and choose not to report it immediately, the predator will probably escape justice. It might not be fair, it might not be "right," but it is reality. And yes, there are people who make accusations for personal gain, and it's not uncommon, that's why we should expect proof just like any other accusation.
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Post by langdona on Aug 29, 2021 19:42:39 GMT
Some thing men will never understand is the trauma of rape and child abuse. Until recently, sexual assault and/or rape were invalidated and dismissed, by both genders, but especially by men. Women have been blamed for the victimization. When it happens to you when you were a child during your formative years, the damage extends far beyond physical trauma. Expecting a 7 year old to come forward and report their father to the police is far-fetched. Even expecting them to come forward when they reach the age of 18 is still not grasping the extent of trauma of what one goes through as a child. The actual brain development is altered when there's trauma at such a young age. There's shame, there's stigma, and social pressure. I don't deny that there are people who abuse things like the #MeToo movement for personal gain. However the price we pay by neglecting victims when they come forward is perpetuating rape culture and the unnecessary burden of shame women carry.
Men and boys are also victims of abuse and rape, as a rule, abusers are made by abusers. The reality of life is that some predators will escape justice, especially when the victim waits to come forward. If you are raped and choose not to report it immediately, the predator will probably escape justice. It might not be fair, it might not be "right," but it is reality. And yes, there are people who make accusations for personal gain, and it's not uncommon, that's why we should expect proof just like any other accusation.
Just because that's 'reality' doesn't mean things can't be changed. People don't HAVE to sit back if an injustice is happening. And nobody is saying there shouldn't be proof for an allegation.. On the other hand, if you are justifying people getting away with crimes because, that's just 'reality' ...you're being complacent and dont care. Men and boys are victims too...you're right, more reason for us to take all these crimes seriously and have compassion if someone cant immediately come forward for reasons the quotes poster mentioned.. |
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Post by Sarge on Aug 30, 2021 0:33:51 GMT
Men and boys are also victims of abuse and rape, as a rule, abusers are made by abusers. The reality of life is that some predators will escape justice, especially when the victim waits to come forward. If you are raped and choose not to report it immediately, the predator will probably escape justice. It might not be fair, it might not be "right," but it is reality. And yes, there are people who make accusations for personal gain, and it's not uncommon, that's why we should expect proof just like any other accusation.
Just because that's 'reality' doesn't mean things can't be changed. People don't HAVE to sit back if an injustice is happening. And nobody is saying there shouldn't be proof for an allegation.. On the other hand, if you are justifying people getting away with crimes because, that's just 'reality' ...you're being complacent and dont care. Men and boys are victims too...you're right, more reason for us to take all these crimes seriously and have compassion if someone cant immediately come forward for reasons the quotes poster mentioned.. Okay, you are compassionate and care deeply about something that may, or may not, have happened, and you want to change 'things' in defiance of reality. So what does that mean? Imagine your coworker was fired after a sexual assault allegation? There are no witnesses, no evidence. What are your feelings about that, and where does your compassion land? What specifically are you going to do to change "things," or what things do you want to change?
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