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Post by lune7000 on Sept 4, 2021 19:13:19 GMT
I saw a movie where a released convict went to a club where you could buy tickets to dance with a girl of his choice. The girls worked there for just that purpose- one ticket per dance (they later go west together). I've seen something like this in other movies from 1940-1970.
What was the name for these businesses? There had to be a name for a club that specialized in this.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 4, 2021 19:19:56 GMT
The girls were called dime a dance girls or taxi dancers. They were supposed to encourage their partners to buy them drinks , on which the dance hall made money. Often the girls were strictly supervised, and not permitted to date the customers or agree to a side hustle. The business could only operate in certain legit neighborhoods if they kept away from prostitution.
I believe Gloria Graham ‘ s character worked at such a place in Criss Cross. Lucille Ball was a dime a dance girl in Lured.
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Post by mattgarth on Sept 4, 2021 19:45:56 GMT
Doris Day as 'Ruth Etting' starts out in that profession for eating money before getting a singing break at the opening of LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME.
And regarding CRISS CROSS -- I believe that was Yvonne de Carlo at the job and not Gloria. She's dancing with a then unknown Tony Curtis (doing a hot rhumba) when ex-hubby Burt Lancaster spots her.
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Post by jervistetch on Sept 4, 2021 19:52:54 GMT
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Post by mikef6 on Sept 4, 2021 20:55:57 GMT
The Dime A Dance joint in Kubrick's "Killer's Kiss" plays a vital role in the story. Also there is: 
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Post by lune7000 on Sept 4, 2021 22:39:44 GMT
Thanks for the replies. I'm surprised there isn't a short name for these places. I guess the girls were just one of the features of a club so clubs that had the girls didn't rate a special name. In the picture that I saw (I can't remember the name) it seemed like dancing was the main focus of the club. It was a film noir era piece where some quiet type ex con is just released (and warned to stay clean by the warden), he buys a bunch of tickets but dances w/ only one girl. They go out west together and work on some farm community in California in jeans and he is falsely accused of a crime. Eventually he is exonerated.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 4, 2021 22:55:44 GMT
Doris Day as 'Ruth Etting' starts out in that profession for eating money before getting a singing break at the opening of LOVE ME OR LEAVE ME. And regarding CRISS CROSS -- I believe that was Yvonne de Carlo at the job and not Gloria. She's dancing with a then unknown Tony Curtis (doing a hot rhumba) when ex-hubby Burt Lancaster spots her. I was thinking of Crossfire, where Grahame plays a taxi Dancer who meets the soldier at her apartment. Sorry, wrong title.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 4, 2021 23:06:09 GMT
Taxi dancers typically received half of the ticket price as wages and the other half paid for the orchestra, dance hall, and operating expenses.[18] Although they only worked a few hours a night, they frequently made two to three times the salary of a woman working in a factory or a store.[19] At that time, the taxi-dance hall surpassed the public ballroom in becoming the most popular place for urban dancing.[20]
Taxi-dancing flourished in the United States during the 1920s and 1930s, as scores of taxi-dance halls opened in Chicago, New York, and other major cities. Like other nightlife venues, the taxi-dance hall ran the gamut from the classy establishment to the cramped and seedy hole-in-the-wall. Roseland in New York City, for example, which offered taxi dancing in the late 1930s, appealed to the more discerning patron. Far more common, however, were halls catering to a working-class clientele. By the mid 1920s, taxi dancing had become a nightlife entertainment staple in many large American cities - Wikipedia
Taxi dance halls were in the middle of the spectrum bwteen dance instruction studios and brothels. No women customers were allowed , just dance hostesses. They were for the most part respectable, but the profession veered toward the line.
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Post by marianne48 on Sept 4, 2021 23:48:26 GMT
Any movies about male taxi dancers? Or was that too shocking a concept?
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Post by marshamae on Sept 5, 2021 2:04:19 GMT
One is featured in the mini series Lillie about Lillie Langtry. It shows her wanting to be the exclusive patron of an attractive dancer. This same idea is mentioned in Cotton Club, where the RICHARD Gère character admits he was paid to dance with old ladies, and talks about the “ after work” implying prostituti9n. Men did not get the same protections as women doing this work.
The Wiki article mentioned that a respectable taxi dance hall would not allow female customers. The only women allowed were employees. It’s interesting to me that these dance halls were so popular. Was it financial, ? Was it that bringing a date to an evening of dancing meant transportation, flowers, drinks cover charge, while a taxi dance hall only charged 10 cents a dance and provided a compétant partner. If a young man really liked to dance this was a good deal
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Post by Doghouse6 on Sept 5, 2021 2:14:34 GMT
Any movies about male taxi dancers? Or was that too shocking a concept? While it's not the subject of it by any means, there is a scene in Conrad Veidt's final film, 1943's Above Suspicion, in which he's seen partnering a matron at an afternoon tea dance, and from what we know about his character at that point, he does pretty much everything for hire; guide, translator or whatever will bring in a buck (or a mark). My guess is that such a thing was more common in Europe than in the U.S. Describing his youth in Berlin, Billy Wilder sometimes referred to himself as a "gigolo," but he often mentioned that it entailed merely being a paid escort for an evening out dancing.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 5, 2021 2:42:36 GMT
I’m thinking of 0rofessional dancers at resort hotels in Europe and the Catskills. The dancers could do anything from ball room instruction to escort work to prostitution .
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Post by marianne48 on Sept 5, 2021 3:06:04 GMT
My favorite depiction of taxi dancers: the "Call Me a Taxi" episode of Laverne and Shirley.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 5, 2021 4:03:31 GMT
It really is funny there is not a smoother name for this. The complicated gluing words to gether is almost Germanic. It’s not an English word coining process at all. In English we typically borrow a term from another language, or take a useful adjective or verb and turn it into a noun, like escalator, or computer.
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Post by marshamae on Sept 5, 2021 4:08:50 GMT
HE WAS 23 and as shy as they come. To hear Toni tell it, he’d fall down at the very sight of a woman. So he came to the only place he knew where the women always said “yes” when he asked them to dance: Club Flamingo. For 35 cents a minute, he could dance with the woman of his choice and not have to worry about saying something stupid or embarrassing. This is a wonderfully written article about LA taxi dance ballrooms by Martin Booe. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-07-15-tm-549-story.html
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Post by timshelboy on Sept 8, 2021 21:53:28 GMT
Don't forget Charity Hope Valentine's colleagues....  this song is known as the taxi dancer's lament   sharp eyed posters will note Rita Hayworth, second from right, in an early B second lead from 1937.
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Post by timshelboy on Sept 8, 2021 22:07:39 GMT
It really is funny there is not a smoother name for this. The complicated gluing words to gether is almost Germanic. It’s not an English word coining process at all. In English we typically borrow a term from another language, or take a useful adjective or verb and turn it into a noun, like escalator, or computer. Nickel Hopper? you might like this on Taxi Dancer slang/argot THE LOST LINGO OF DEPRESSION ERA TAXI DANCERS some fascinating insights Marsha
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Post by jeffersoncody on Sept 9, 2021 10:17:46 GMT
The girls were called dime a dance girls or taxi dancers. They were supposed to encourage their partners to buy them drinks , on which the dance hall made money. Often the girls were strictly supervised, and not permitted to date the customers or agree to a side hustle. The business could only operate in certain legit neighborhoods if they kept away from prostitution. LOL. Don't believe the spin marshamae, or the whitewashed movies of the classic era. These girls would go at like bunnies if the Johns had bucks to spend. Also, people were a whole lot more discreet in those days. Way more privacy too.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 11, 2021 10:16:12 GMT
Shame of me for forgetting, but is Donna Reed's character in From Here to Eternity a taxi dancer, prostitute, taxi dancer/prostitute or whatever your sensibilities prefer?
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Post by timshelboy on Sept 11, 2021 10:49:09 GMT
Shame of me for forgetting, but is Donna Reed's character in From Here to Eternity a taxi dancer, prostitute, taxi dancer/prostitute or whatever your sensibilities prefer? She's a "hostess" in the film.... at The New Congress Club, run by Mrs Kipfer, a "social club where enlisted men could go to enjoy soft drinks, dancing, and recreation with the opposite sex". Dancing would seem to be one of her duties. She was a regular hooker in the novel. In the recent musical Lorene became a Hawaiian native. 
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