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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 17:42:22 GMT
Salmon Rushdie is a writer from India, who lives in England of Muslim background. In the late 80s, he wrote a book & had it published, titled The Satanic Verses, which apparently took a jab at Muhammad. Naturally, millions of Muslims from around the entire world were deeply offended, & burned copies of the book, whenever they could find them. But, what finally sealed the name Salmon Rushdie in the minds of most people was when the Ayatollah of Iran imposed a fatwa (bounty) on Rushdie's head, awarding millions of dollars on the person who would murder the man!!!! Rushdie was in hiding for a very long time after that. Ironically, the Ayatollah died only a few months after imposing this fatwa, & Rushdie is still alive right down to this very day. That said, the fatwa that was placed upon him is still in place right down to this day (no doubt with interest on the reward for his life). Thanks for the short summary. That is interesting. I always love learning new things. 'Welcome.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 17:46:49 GMT
Salmon Rushdie is a writer from India, who lives in England of Muslim background. In the late 80s, he wrote a book & had it published, titled The Satanic Verses, which apparently took a jab at Muhammad. Naturally, millions of Muslims from around the entire world were deeply offended, & burned copies of the book, whenever they could find them. But, what finally sealed the name Salmon Rushdie in the minds of most people was when the Ayatollah of Iran imposed a fatwa (bounty) on Rushdie's head, awarding millions of dollars on the person who would murder the man!!!! Rushdie was in hiding for a very long time after that. Ironically, the Ayatollah died only a few months after imposing this fatwa, & Rushdie is still alive right down to this very day. That said, the fatwa that was placed upon him is still in place right down to this day (no doubt with interest on the reward for his life). The Japanese translator of Rushdie's (phone misspelled his name) book was killed, although it was not confirmed that he was by a Muslim. web.archive.org/web/20110721021445/http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/rushdie.htmlSpeaking of your correct point that not all Arabs are Muslims, there are boxes most people put areas of civilization in. The Middle East is really the only area that is associated with Muslims. but of course that in no way means all Arabs are Muslim and that only Arabs are Muslims. It is just that it is much more common for Arabs to be Muslims, in part because for the ones who live in the Middle East it is dangerous for you not to be a Muslim. Latino people, black people, East Asians and white people are Christianity, because that is the largest religion and was able to spread the fastest due to force and the control Europe had 2000 years ago and from then on. Jews are Israel and spread out here and there across the world but in more small doses. Buddhism is Indians and East Asians and Hinduism is India and East Asia. So every area and color of person is associated in general with some form of religion. Smart people know those are just generalities though. Well, all Muslims must pray and recite the Qur'an in Arabic, go to Saudi Arabia to do the Hajj and preferably a convert should adopt an Arab name. So while not all Muslims are Arabs, you cannot take the Arabic out of Islam. Love talking about this stuff and learning new information. I don't know why anyone wouldn't be interested in learning new things. It is very easy to have an open mind when you don't have stuff like religion or government scaring you into not wanting to learn new things.
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 17:47:12 GMT
Salmon Rushdie is a writer from India, who lives in England of Muslim background. In the late 80s, he wrote a book & had it published, titled The Satanic Verses, which apparently took a jab at Muhammad. Naturally, millions of Muslims from around the entire world were deeply offended, & burned copies of the book, whenever they could find them. But, what finally sealed the name Salmon Rushdie in the minds of most people was when the Ayatollah of Iran imposed a fatwa (bounty) on Rushdie's head, awarding millions of dollars on the person who would murder the man!!!! Rushdie was in hiding for a very long time after that. Ironically, the Ayatollah died only a few months after imposing this fatwa, & Rushdie is still alive right down to this very day. That said, the fatwa that was placed upon him is still in place right down to this day (no doubt with interest on the reward for his life). The Japanese translator of Rushdie's (phone misspelled his name) book was killed, although it was not confirmed that he was by a Muslim. web.archive.org/web/20110721021445/http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/rushdie.htmlSpeaking of your correct point that not all Arabs are Muslims, there are boxes most people put areas of civilization in. The Middle East is really the only area that is associated with Muslims. but of course that in no way means all Arabs are Muslim and that only Arabs are Muslims. It is just that it is much more common for Arabs to be Muslims, in part because for the ones who live in the Middle East it is dangerous for you not to be a Muslim. Latino people, black people, East Asians and white people are Christianity, because that is the largest religion and was able to spread the fastest due to force and the control Europe had 2000 years ago and from then on. Jews are Israel and spread out here and there across the world but in more small doses. Buddhism is Indians and East Asians and Hinduism is India and East Asia. So every area and color of person is associated in general with some form of religion. Smart people know those are just generalities though. Well, all Muslims must pray and recite the Qur'an in Arabic, go to Saudi Arabia to do the Hajj and preferably a convert should adopt an Arab name. So while not all Muslims are Arabs, you cannot take the Arabic out of Islam. Yet, no Shintoist would ever kill a blasphemer of any Shinto deities, not even Amaterasu, the sun goddess & one of the most important deities of the Shinto pantheon.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 17:52:57 GMT
Yet, no Shintoist would ever kill a blasphemer of any Shinto deities, not even Amaterasu, the sun goddess & one of the most important deities of the Shinto pantheon. You are an information machine for me today. I hadn't heard of Shinto either. From quick Google search. "Shinto (Japanese: 神道, romanized: Shintō) is a religion which originated in Japan. ... Shinto is polytheistic and revolves around the kami ("gods" or "spirits"), supernatural entities believed to inhabit all things. The link between the kami and the natural world has led to Shinto being considered animistic and pantheistic." Is that correct?
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 17:54:25 GMT
Yet, no Shintoist would ever kill a blasphemer of any Shinto deities, not even Amaterasu, the sun goddess & one of the most important deities of the Shinto pantheon. You are an information machine for me today. I hadn't heard of Shinto either. From quick Google search "Shinto (Japanese: 神道, romanized: Shintō) is a religion which originated in Japan. ... Shinto is polytheistic and revolves around the kami ("gods" or "spirits"), supernatural entities believed to inhabit all things. The link between the kami and the natural world has led to Shinto being considered animistic and pantheistic." Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. I take it, you are not a world religions' buff, are you moviemouth?
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 18:00:41 GMT
You are an information machine for me today. I hadn't heard of Shinto either. From quick Google search "Shinto (Japanese: 神道, romanized: Shintō) is a religion which originated in Japan. ... Shinto is polytheistic and revolves around the kami ("gods" or "spirits"), supernatural entities believed to inhabit all things. The link between the kami and the natural world has led to Shinto being considered animistic and pantheistic." Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. I take it, you are not a world religions' buff, are you moviemouth ? No. Certainly not to that extent. I am mostly only familiar with the Abrahamic religions. I am also familiar with Buddhism, Hinduism, Janism and Pantheism. The latter being the most useless version of God I have heard of. Then obviously scientology, the most obviously untrue "religion."
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 18:09:08 GMT
Yes, that is correct. I take it, you are not a world religions' buff, are you moviemouth ? No. Certainly not to that extent. I am mostly only familiar with the Abrahamic religions. I am also familiar with Buddhism, Hinduism, Janism and Pantheism. The latter being the most useless version of God I have heard of. Then obviously scientology, the most obviously untrue "religion." Goddess worship is pantheistic. That is why there are no monotheistic goddess-worshipping religions. On Quora.com, there are a few Scientologists that post, & really swear by the religion.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 18:13:49 GMT
No. Certainly not to that extent. I am mostly only familiar with the Abrahamic religions. I am also familiar with Buddhism, Hinduism, Janism and Pantheism. The latter being the most useless version of God I have heard of. Then obviously scientology, the most obviously untrue "religion." Goddess worship is pantheistic. That is why there are no monotheistic goddess-worshipping religions. On Quora.com, there are a few Scientologists that post, & really swear by the religion. I was referring to the people that view the Universe as God. Or is that something else? Yes, scientologists seem to be quite hardcore. I just mean that is one religion that is very young and can be traced much more accurately and just reeks of a con game.
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 18:17:09 GMT
Goddess worship is pantheistic. That is why there are no monotheistic goddess-worshipping religions. On Quora.com, there are a few Scientologists that post, & really swear by the religion. I was referring to the people that view the Universe as God. Or is that something else? Yes, scientologists seem to be quite hardcore. I just mean that is one religion that is very young and can be traced much more accurately and just reeks of a con game. No, that is exactly what pantheism is: Everything is God; God is everything, which is why goddess-worship pantheistic. Eg: Mother Earth, Mother Nature, etc.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 18:18:28 GMT
I was referring to the people that view the Universe as God. Or is that something else? Yes, scientologists seem to be quite hardcore. I just mean that is one religion that is very young and can be traced much more accurately and just reeks of a con game. No, that is exactly what pantheism is: Everything is God; God is everything, which is why goddess-worship pantheistic. Eg: Mother Earth, Mother Nature, etc. Okay, now I see what you mean.
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 20:33:18 GMT
No, that is exactly what pantheism is: Everything is God; God is everything, which is why goddess-worship pantheistic. Eg: Mother Earth, Mother Nature, etc.Okay, now I see what you mean. Yes. The reason why goddess-worship is always pantheistic (or even polytheistic) as opposed to monotheistic is because, when the male creates, he creates outside of himself. When the female creates, she creates from within herself. So, when a religion believes that the Supreme Creator Created the universe outside of itself, the religion worships God-centred (monotheistic), but, if they believe that the Supreme Creator Created the universe from within, then the religion will be goddess-centred (pantheistic).
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 20:38:21 GMT
Okay, now I see what you mean. Yes. The reason why goddess-worship is always pantheistic (or even polytheistic) as opposed to monotheistic is because, when the male creates, he creates outside of himself. When the female creates, she creates from within herself. So, when a religion believes that the Supreme Creator Created the universe outside of itself, the religion worships God-centred (monotheistic), but, if they believe that the Supreme Creator Created the universe from within, then the religion will be goddess-centred (pantheistic). Never thought about it like that when it comes to what the main difference of Goddesses, but that makes a lot of sense. Child birth and all that.
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 20:39:07 GMT
Yes. The reason why goddess-worship is always pantheistic (or even polytheistic) as opposed to monotheistic is because, when the male creates, he creates outside of himself. When the female creates, she creates from within herself. So, when a religion believes that the Supreme Creator Created the universe outside of itself, the religion worships God-centred (monotheistic), but, if they believe that the Supreme Creator Created the universe from within, then the religion will be goddess-centred (pantheistic). Never thought about it like that, but that makes a lot of sense. Birth and all that. Yes, it's pretty interesting, isn't it?
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 20:41:31 GMT
Never thought about it like that, but that makes a lot of sense. Birth and all that. Yes, it's pretty interesting, isn't it? Well, it isn't uninteresting.
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 21:21:26 GMT
Yes, it's pretty interesting, isn't it? Well, it isn't uninteresting. World religions is one of the most fascinating topics to learn about, & yet, very few people are interested in learning the subject.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 21, 2021 21:29:58 GMT
Well, it isn't uninteresting. World religions is one of the most fascinating topics to learn about, & yet, very few people are interested in learning the subject. Well, not everyone finds the same things as interesting as others. I find it interesting, but not as interesting as you for example. You sort of have to start with an interest in it to begin with in order to want to learn more about it. I am interested in everything, but also lazy. There are other things I am more interested in and spend more time on that stuff. Movies are my biggest interest and I spend most of my time with movies.
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Post by clusium on Sept 21, 2021 22:29:50 GMT
World religions is one of the most fascinating topics to learn about, & yet, very few people are interested in learning the subject. Well, not everyone finds the same things as interesting as others. I find it interesting, but not as interesting as you for example. You sort of have to start with an interest in it to begin with in order to want to learn more about it. I am interested in everything, but also lazy. There are other things I am more interested in and spend more time on that stuff. Movies are my biggest interest and I spend most of my time with movies. Well, of course. These message forums originated from a movie/TV website.
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