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Post by Jesse Custer on May 21, 2017 20:56:14 GMT
As for Wolverine. I have really no interest, in another pussified Wolverine. Thats why i dont like the previous X-Men films.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on May 21, 2017 23:06:03 GMT
DC-Fan - Tony Stark wanted extra muscle to help apprehend Captain America and the rest of his group, since The Hulk is nowhere to be reached, Daredevil is too much of a mystery to seek out and get an answer in time, and Luke Cage hasn't even gone public yet Spider-Man, another NYC based hero with fantastic abilities, caught his attention. Its been revealed through the marketing material for Spider-Man: Homecoming that Peter Parker's alter ego is something of an internet celeb( Enough to get a mention to in a state far away in passing in Ant-Man for example). Peter isn't as wise as heroes of mature age who know how to keep themselves cloaked from public awareness and avoid revealing minor details about their suits, backgrounds, etc. that obviously led Tony to find out Peter's secret. No, it's not exactly the wisest of decisions to take a minor to be involved in a brawl between other people with far more experience dealing with the fantastic but the kid had a lot of special abilities that would've been of some assistance. The kid gives it his all, and Tony sends him home. Tony still plays a part in his life because Peter doesn't have the wealth he does and is still pretty impressionable at his age(One really bad day could turn anyone, especially a youngster, to a life of violence and anger) so he wants to make sure he makes the right choices. Call this "creepy" all you like but Professor X has a whole school established for this and as formersamhmd mentioned Batman too.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on May 21, 2017 23:30:12 GMT
Not really, my argument was that Fox didn't really care about Deadpool and wanted to put all their chips on X-Men: Apocalypse for it to be one of if not their biggest release of the year, but as it turned out the film they didn't have too much care in from the start outdid the one they were far more attentive to and had much more creative control over.
When you really think about it, Deadpool owes more to Marvel Studios than it does with the previous X-Men installments, as the majority of references to Marvel Studios/Disney is done a more respecting kind of way whereas a few of the X-Men-on-film jokes were also criticisms on Fox's handling of the material - the inconsistent timelines, for one. Speaking of which, the story revolving those X-Men comics in Logan and Wolverine's attitude towards them seemed like a play on how the studio viewed those books when adapting them to movies - the less accurate and visually ashamed they were the worse they got but the more accurate and embracive the better they were( even if they had to play in the sandbox established with the weaker entries).
Should be noted that Deadpool's director Tim Miller was working on a Marvel Studios production and was encouraged to leave and put all attention on directing Deadpool by several higher ups from the studio, including directors Joe and Anthony Russo. Many team players for Marvel Studios expressed love and appreciation for Deadpool after it release, including its faces RDJ, Chris Evans, and Chris Pratt.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 6:20:05 GMT
Agreed. The Amazing Spider-Kid did more talking than fighting. And dumb MCU fans complain about the "Martha scene" when they didn't understand it at all, the Cap-Spider-Kid scene was even worse: Cap: "I'm from Queens." Spider-Kid: "I'm from the Bronx." Cap: "Really, kid? We're from the same city? OK, let's stop fighting." Stops fighting and walks away in the middle of the fight. That was almost as lame as Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer of Planets getting defeated by a Dance-Off. So in Infinity War, Thanos will probably be defeated by a karaoke challenge. well I cannot remember that particular CW scene, but the Marvel counterpart to the Martha scene in Cap 3 is this: Ironman stating: " I don't care. He killed my mom." starting an idiotic brawling scene between middle aged Ironman and his ally cap, jeopardizing everything they built up. ..  .... This shows how deeply these characters are rooted in childish pulp - grown up characters suffering from mommy issues that determine their actions in critical situations. One brawling is ended by an mommy issue, the other is started by it - you can chose which one is the worse writing... The embarrassing dance off scene in GotG made me not watch part 2, but technically the baddy was just distracted by the dancing, but defeated by one of these convenient mcguffin thingies? Whatever, that is like saying that it was the bullet that killed the victim, not the shooter. But it's pointless to make fun of it, it's for kids. I have never read something so close-minded or idiotic in my life.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 22, 2017 8:17:44 GMT
well I cannot remember that particular CW scene, but the Marvel counterpart to the Martha scene in Cap 3 is this: Ironman stating: " I don't care. He killed my mom." starting an idiotic brawling scene between middle aged Ironman and his ally cap, jeopardizing everything they built up. ..  .... This shows how deeply these characters are rooted in childish pulp - grown up characters suffering from mommy issues that determine their actions in critical situations. One brawling is ended by an mommy issue, the other is started by it - you can chose which one is the worse writing... The embarrassing dance off scene in GotG made me not watch part 2, but technically the baddy was just distracted by the dancing, but defeated by one of these convenient mcguffin thingies? Whatever, that is like saying that it was the bullet that killed the victim, not the shooter. But it's pointless to make fun of it, it's for kids. I have never read something so close-minded or idiotic in my life. lol at the butthurt drama queen. Sorry that this ripped a hole into the safety zone of your echo bubble, kiddo. Seems you did not just run out of bubble gum after all. But there is always time to grow up.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 22, 2017 14:23:51 GMT
well I cannot remember that particular CW scene, but the Marvel counterpart to the Martha scene in Cap 3 is this: Ironman stating: " I don't care. He killed my mom." starting an idiotic brawling scene between middle aged Ironman and his ally cap, jeopardizing everything they built up. ..  .... This shows how deeply these characters are rooted in childish pulp - grown up characters suffering from mommy issues that determine their actions in critical situations. One brawling is ended by an mommy issue, the other is started by it - you can chose which one is the worse writing... The embarrassing dance off scene in GotG made me not watch part 2, but technically the baddy was just distracted by the dancing, but defeated by one of these convenient mcguffin thingies? Whatever, that is like saying that it was the bullet that killed the victim, not the shooter. But it's pointless to make fun of it, it's for kids. I have never read something so close-minded or idiotic in my life. They're ashamed of comics, better get used to that kind of attitude.
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Post by charzhino on May 22, 2017 14:49:12 GMT
They're ashamed of comics, better get used to that kind of attitude. Nah, just ashamed of taking the easy route and poorly adapting screenplays that dont challenge audiences.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 22, 2017 15:43:21 GMT
They're ashamed of comics, better get used to that kind of attitude. Nah, just ashamed of taking the easy route and poorly adapting screenplays that dont challenge audiences. The easy route is that sell-out "grounded" approach to inherently wondrous properties whose source material never shied away from that kind of stuff. And before you bring up X-Men, there's nothing challenging about subtle-as-a-nuke Holocaust exploitation. In that regard, X-Men doesn't challenge people at all.
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Post by ReyKahuka on May 22, 2017 15:52:15 GMT
Nah, just ashamed of taking the easy route and poorly adapting screenplays that dont challenge audiences. The easy route is that sell-out "grounded" approach to inherently wondrous properties whose source material never shied away from that kind of stuff. And before you bring up X-Men, there's nothing challenging about subtle-as-a-nuke Holocaust exploitation. In that regard, X-Men doesn't challenge people at all. I disagree. I found it very challenging to sit through DOFP and Apocalypse.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on May 22, 2017 16:40:42 GMT
Test audiences for Civil War had difficulty deciding which side( Team Cap, Team Iron Man) was right or wrong, if they had played it safe they would've made the whole conflict black and white, but instead its all a gray area.
When it comes to taking the easy way out, sorry but as awesome as Deadpool and Logan were it isn't that difficult or all that risky making R rated movies out of those characters, as they're pretty easy to get from just a few media exposures, comics especially.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 18:56:44 GMT
I have never read something so close-minded or idiotic in my life. lol at the butthurt drama queen. Sorry that this ripped a hole into the safety zone of your echo bubble, kiddo. Seems you did not just run out of bubble gum after all. But there is always time to grow up.
I feel like you call others "kiddo" a lot just to cover up your own insecurities. I always love how you use the stupid bubble gum argument when trying to call someone childish. I'm just plain perplexed at how you managed to miss the point of everything you said was childish or bad writing, that is why I made that dramatic statment. I mean why do you hang around an MCU board yet it's clearly obvious you hate the MCU and want others to have the exact same opinion as you. I mean you of course have to make that ridiculous comparison of MCU and Transformers even though it's one hell of an inaccurate comparison given not one Transformer managed to even be as good as the worst MCU movie. You can call MCU derivative and childish all you want, saying it over and over again won't make it true or convince others to think that way.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 18:59:15 GMT
They're ashamed of comics, better get used to that kind of attitude. Nah, just ashamed of taking the easy route and poorly adapting screenplays that dont challenge audiences. Except there is one problem with your statement; MCU screenplays challenge audiences of all ages no matter how you try to state your opinion as a fact.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 22, 2017 19:18:50 GMT
Nah, just ashamed of taking the easy route and poorly adapting screenplays that dont challenge audiences. Except there is one problem with your statement; MCU screenplays challenge audiences of all ages no matter how you try to state your opinion as a fact. Agreed. All ages being the key phrase in your rebuttal. There appears to be a movement to take superheroes away from teens, preteens and children to leave them solely in the hands of "adults." This is ironic considering that comic books were initially designed for and targeted towards young adults. Those who want all grim, all adult comic book cinema all the time must have taken to the material as preteens or teenagers so, it's a bit of a mystery as to why they'd want to deprive young people of the same enjoyment. SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:21:40 GMT
lol at the butthurt drama queen. Sorry that this ripped a hole into the safety zone of your echo bubble, kiddo. Seems you did not just run out of bubble gum after all. But there is always time to grow up.
I feel like you call others "kiddo" a lot just to cover up your own insecurities. I always love how you use the stupid bubble gum argument when trying to call someone childish. I'm just plain perplexed at how you managed to miss the point of everything you said was childish or bad writing, that is why I made that dramatic statment. MCU is more mature than you think. You're trying to reason with a guy who makes fun of the MCU for "having beefcakes in skintight outfits" despite the fact neither Cap nor Thor have never worn skintight outfits outside of Steve's days as a celebrity making propaganda films. And he unironically has a Thundercats avatar, a cartoon which actually did have beefcakes in skintight outfits.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 22, 2017 19:22:22 GMT
lol at the butthurt drama queen. Sorry that this ripped a hole into the safety zone of your echo bubble, kiddo. Seems you did not just run out of bubble gum after all. But there is always time to grow up.
MCU is more mature than you think.  oh yeah? Teletubbies are more mature than you think! Problem is proving it, the onus is with you. You even seem to be dense to get that my assessment referred to both EUs...  oh my, my insecurities rise. But always? Actually, you are the first one with that juvenile bubble gum line in his avatar to play upon. So prove me that I ever said that, but you won't, because it's just another empty claim you make up. yeah you are a perplexed drama queen, and your writing style is bad indeed. But as they say, one must be very shallow to find the beefcakes-in-tights business deep, one must be very fallacious to find your deflections valid, and one must be utterly dim to find your ramblings bright. Cheerio dude. 
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:25:56 GMT
Except there is one problem with your statement; MCU screenplays challenge audiences of all ages no matter how you try to state your opinion as a fact. Agreed. All ages being the key phrase in your rebuttal. There appears to be a movement to take superheroes away from teens, preteens and children to leave them solely in the hands of "adults." This is ironic considering that comic books were initially designed for and targeted towards young adults. Those who want all grim, all adult comic book cinema all the time must have taken to the material as preteens or teenagers so, it's a bit of a mystery as to why they'd want to deprive young people of the same enjoyment. SaveSaveBecause they're not mature enough to be self-aware. They actually buy their own bullcrap or they're trying to hide behind a mask of maturity out of shame. Either way, they're insecure and immature. Critics who look at "being adult" as something to praise rather than simply being a descriptive term still need to grow up. Its natural for children to want to be adults, to grow up, but once you're an adult, you're there. If you can't be secure enough in your adulthood to watch comic book movies or a Disney cartoon, then tough.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:27:55 GMT
You're trying to reason with a guy who makes fun of the MCU for "having beefcakes in skintight outfits" despite the fact neither Cap nor Thor have never worn skintight outfits outside of Steve's days as a celebrity making propaganda films. And he unironically has a Thundercats avatar, a cartoon which actually did have beefcakes in skintight outfits. That is some serious irony, if they make a Thudercats movie directed by Micheal Bay then I bet he'll try to argue that that'll be better than the MCU. Honestly, I'd watch the hell out of that, too. You're right, of course. No way would it be better than Marvel, but this guy would say it is just to spite us.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:31:11 GMT
MCU is more mature than you think.  oh yeah? Teletubbies are more mature than you think! Problem is proving it, the onus is with you. You even seem to be dense to get that my assessment referred to both EUs...  oh my, my insecurities rise. But always? Actually, you are the first one with that juvenile bubble gum line in his avatar to play upon. So prove me that I ever said that, but you won't, because it's just another empty claim you make up. yeah you are a perplexed drama queen, and your writing style is bad indeed. But as they say, one must be very shallow to find the beefcakes-in-tights business deep, one must be very fallacious to find your deflections valid, and one must be utterly dim to find your ramblings bright. Cheerio dude.  I picked that avatar because that's a very memorable line from a great movie. If you think MCU or this entire business is about skintight beefcakes with no depth then what are you doing here? Go discuss movies that interest you rather than coming here and belittling those who enjoy CBMS.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:33:04 GMT
MCU is more mature than you think.  oh yeah? Teletubbies are more mature than you think! Problem is proving it, the onus is with you. You even seem to be dense to get that my assessment referred to both EUs...  oh my, my insecurities rise. But always? Actually, you are the first one with that juvenile bubble gum line in his avatar to play upon. So prove me that I ever said that, but you won't, because it's just another empty claim you make up. yeah you are a perplexed drama queen, and your writing style is bad indeed. But as they say, one must be very shallow to find the beefcakes-in-tights business deep, one must be very fallacious to find your deflections valid, and one must be utterly dim to find your ramblings bright. Cheerio dude.  You keep going on about big men wearing tights, but there are actually no tights to be seen. All of Captain America's actual combat outfits have been actual military clothes customized to have his colors, which includes a pair of proper pants, boots, a shirt, and kevlar. Thor wears normal clothes with chainmail and light plate armor over them. So you can stop using that fallacy right now.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:36:48 GMT
That is some serious irony, if they make a Thudercats movie directed by Micheal Bay then I bet he'll try to argue that that'll be better than the MCU. Honestly, I'd watch the hell out of that, too. You're right, of course. No way would it be better than Marvel, but this guy would say it is just to spite us. Who wouldn't want to see cheetara Micheal Bay-ified? 
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