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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on May 23, 2017 6:21:07 GMT
Damn DC-Fan you sure do over-think stuff way more than you should, take some advice and try to understand that it's NOT BASED ON REAL LIFE and that its based on FANTASY. But then again you just have too much free time on your hands, too much...
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 6:32:58 GMT
I'm sorry DC-Fan, you're really going to need to stop rambling
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Post by Stuart "2-D" Pot on May 23, 2017 7:35:08 GMT
Tony had full Government Authority to do that, and Peter didn't want May to know what was going on so Tony respected that. No, Tony didn't have Government Authority to kidnap Peter. Peter is a private citizen and isn't in the military so the government doesn't have the authority to draft him into service. Moreover, Peter is a minor so he couldn't be drafted anyway. And the government has no authority to allow anyone to kidnap a minor and transport the minor out of the country without the consent of the minor's parents or legal guardian.
Also, what Peter wants is irrelevant. Peter is a minor so under the law, Peter isn't allowed to leave the country without the consent of his parents or legal guardian. Since Peter is a minor, transporting him out of the country under false pretenses and lying to Aunt May is considered kidnapping of a child, regardless of whether or not the child went voluntarily. Since Peter is a child, he's not legally able to give consent so what Peter wants is irrelevant.
If you were paying attention during civil war, Stark didn't kidnap Peter, he needed him to help stop Cap's team, and he had gotten General Ross's permission for Peter to be on his team. And Peter didn't want May to know about the whole Spider-Man thing, and Stark was actually listening to this.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 23, 2017 8:27:21 GMT
No, Tony didn't have Government Authority to kidnap Peter. Peter is a private citizen and isn't in the military so the government doesn't have the authority to draft him into service. Moreover, Peter is a minor so he couldn't be drafted anyway. And the government has no authority to allow anyone to kidnap a minor and transport the minor out of the country without the consent of the minor's parents or legal guardian.
Also, what Peter wants is irrelevant. Peter is a minor so under the law, Peter isn't allowed to leave the country without the consent of his parents or legal guardian. Since Peter is a minor, transporting him out of the country under false pretenses and lying to Aunt May is considered kidnapping of a child, regardless of whether or not the child went voluntarily. Since Peter is a child, he's not legally able to give consent so what Peter wants is irrelevant.
If you were paying attention during civil war, Stark didn't kidnap Peter, he needed him to help stop Cap's team, and he had gotten General Ross's permission for Peter to be on his team. And Peter didn't want May to know about the whole Spider-Man thing, and Stark was actually listening to this. General Ross has no parental or legal guardian rights over Peter so General Ross can't give Stark any permission for Peter to be on the team. Since Peter is a minor, the only person who can give permission for Peter to be on the team is his legal guardian, Aunt May. But Stark lied to Aunt May and took Peter out of the country under false pretenses. That's kidnapping of a child.
And you dumb MCU fans obviously don't know how to read. Like I already said, what Peter wants is irrelevant. Peter is a minor so under the law, Peter isn't allowed to leave the country without the consent of his parents or legal guardian. Since Peter is a minor, transporting him out of the country under false pretenses and lying to Aunt May is considered kidnapping of a child, regardless of whether or not the child went voluntarily. Since Peter is a child, he's not legally able to give consent so what Peter wants is irrelevant.
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Post by Stuart "2-D" Pot on May 23, 2017 9:14:09 GMT
Missing my point again
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Post by sostie on May 23, 2017 9:32:23 GMT
DC-Fan's fervent defence of the innocence of a fictional character and knee jerk accusations of paedophilia toward another in the context of a COMIC BOOK MOVIE is quite worrying. Are your posts less about Spider-Man and perhaps more about you? Did something happen? At a kids party perhaps or on Halloween? Were you "Peter Parker"? Or are you a guilt ridden "Tony Stark"? Because frankly this is being taken waaaay to seriously by you.
And people wonder why (some) DC fans are considered a bit too "serious".
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 23, 2017 11:13:13 GMT
For transparency: I would not. I just love how Tristan outright ignores the post where I point out there is no tight-wearing in the MCU. don't go drama raptor on me, and don't you straw man silence. I saw your post and it's evidently beside the point. The classic "beefcake in tights" thing in all it's permutation is not about the literal wearing of tights (in fact in '89 Batman it was explicitly stated that his beefy abs (and lush nipple) were just a form of body armor). But it's a remark on the oft bemoaned juvenilization and dumbing down of movies and pop culture. And of course to make fun of emotionally immature grown ups who are still into this kind of stuff typically aimed at emotionally insecure boys of 6-12, by giving them beefy power fantasies they can project to. Some claim it's a closeted form of homoeroticism, but I doubt that. In fact one of my favorite responses when asking a friend why she broke up with someone is "he is reading comic books" (very special look in her eyes), which regularily causes hearty laugh-at-the-manchild laughs...QED
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 23, 2017 14:57:02 GMT
I just love how Tristan outright ignores the post where I point out there is no tight-wearing in the MCU. don't go drama raptor on me, and don't you straw man silence. I saw your post and it's evidently beside the point. The classic "beefcake in tights" thing in all it's permutation is not about the literal wearing of tights (in fact in '89 Batman it was explicitly stated that his beefy abs (and lush nipple) were just a form of body armor). But it's a remark on the oft bemoaned juvenilization and dumbing down of movies and pop culture. And of course to make fun of emotionally immature grown ups who are still into this kind of stuff typically aimed at emotionally insecure boys of 6-12, by giving them beefy power fantasies they can project to. Some claim it's a closeted form of homoeroticism, but I doubt that. In fact one of my favorite responses when asking a friend why she broke up with someone is "he is reading comic books" (very special look in her eyes), which regularily causes hearty laugh-at-the-manchild laughs...QED How many conversations are you currently involved in regarding movies you don't like? How many times are you going to play the 'maturity' card while making embarrassing posts like the one I've just quoted? The real question (and these are all rhetorical, I have no interest in a conversation with someone as juvenile as yourself) is, just how much do you actually hate yourself? You really should seek therapy, start a meditation routine, something. Read a self-help book if you must, but do yourself a favor and get a more positive and fulfilling hobby.
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 23, 2017 15:04:32 GMT
So your answers are:
No, Tony didn't turn himself in to the authorities after kidnapping and transporting a minor out of the country under false pretenses, lying to the minor's guardian.
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No, Tony didn't apologize to Aunt May for lying to her and stalking and kidnapping her under-age nephew out of the country to fight a battle against super-powered fugitives.
So Tony didn't own up to his crimes. Got it.
Last time I checked, Robin's dead in the DCEU, and it was on Batman's watch. Ouch. SaveSave
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 23, 2017 15:32:05 GMT
don't go drama raptor on me, and don't you straw man silence. I saw your post and it's evidently beside the point. The classic "beefcake in tights" thing in all it's permutation is not about the literal wearing of tights (in fact in '89 Batman it was explicitly stated that his beefy abs (and lush nipple) were just a form of body armor). But it's a remark on the oft bemoaned juvenilization and dumbing down of movies and pop culture. And of course to make fun of emotionally immature grown ups who are still into this kind of stuff typically aimed at emotionally insecure boys of 6-12, by giving them beefy power fantasies they can project to. Some claim it's a closeted form of homoeroticism, but I doubt that. In fact one of my favorite responses when asking a friend why she broke up with someone is "he is reading comic books" (very special look in her eyes), which regularily causes hearty laugh-at-the-manchild laughs...QED How many conversations are you currently involved in regarding movies you don't like? How many times are you going to play the 'maturity' card while making embarrassing posts like the one I've just quoted? The real question (and these are all rhetorical, I have no interest in a conversation with someone as juvenile as yourself) is, just how much do you actually hate yourself? You really should seek therapy, start a meditation routine, something. Read a self-help book if you must, but do yourself a favor and get a more positive and fulfilling hobby. Barbarus hic ego sum, quia non intellegor ulli. Liberae sunt nostrae cogitationes; de omnibus dubitandum. Gutta cavat lapidem non vi sed saepe cadendo. Bis repetita non placent!
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Post by yogabagaba on May 23, 2017 20:35:27 GMT
How many conversations are you currently involved in regarding movies you don't like? How many times are you going to play the 'maturity' card while making embarrassing posts like the one I've just quoted? The real question (and these are all rhetorical, I have no interest in a conversation with someone as juvenile as yourself) is, just how much do you actually hate yourself? You really should seek therapy, start a meditation routine, something. Read a self-help book if you must, but do yourself a favor and get a more positive and fulfilling hobby. Barbarus hic ego sum, quia non intellegor ulli. Liberae sunt nostrae cogitationes; de omnibus dubitandum. Gutta cavat lapidem non vi sed saepe cadendo. Bis repetita non placent! Yes, your posts do come across as quite barbaric. That's largely because you act like one. And if you think your constant rambling is going to wear people down and make them see your view over time, you're sadly mistaken. Also, writing entire posts in Latin does not make you seem intelligent. Rather, it makes you seem desperate to appear intelligent.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on May 23, 2017 21:12:53 GMT
Barbarus hic ego sum, quia non intellegor ulli. Liberae sunt nostrae cogitationes; de omnibus dubitandum. Gutta cavat lapidem non vi sed saepe cadendo. Bis repetita non placent! Yes, your posts do come across as quite barbaric. That's largely because you act like one. And if you think your constant rambling is going to wear people down and make them see your view over time, you're sadly mistaken. Also, writing entire posts in Latin does not make you seem intelligent. Rather, it makes you seem desperate to appear intelligent. enter FlyingJ87, dude you truly sound like a broken record. This is exactly why I said "Bis repetita non placent!". "I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get them all riled up like that, huh, kid?" I was asked several times to respond, and when I do, I cut through the BS and state facts and personal experience as are. Stating the obvious is never popular with some; nerds with a healthy mind will take it cum grano salis and with humor, the emotionally unstable ones, well, you saw the last nutjob's meltdown.... But a healthy reality check is always beneficial, even when shocking. Ah, and I switch to Latin and similar when I simply get tired with dimwitted, whining manchildren plaguing me, it works wonders, believe me. Und nun möchtet ich wiederum die Sprache wechseln, da du als personifizierter intellektueller Nudist kein adäquater Ansprechpartner für mich bist. Ou en francais,...non, tu es Canadien...tant pis pour toi.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 23:17:28 GMT
Yes, your posts do come across as quite barbaric. That's largely because you act like one. And if you think your constant rambling is going to wear people down and make them see your view over time, you're sadly mistaken. Also, writing entire posts in Latin does not make you seem intelligent. Rather, it makes you seem desperate to appear intelligent. enter FlyingJ87, dude you truly sound like a broken record. This is exactly why I said "Bis repetita non placent!". "I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get them all riled up like that, huh, kid?" I was asked several times to respond, and when I do, I cut through the BS and state facts and personal experience as are. Stating the obvious is never popular with some; nerds with a healthy mind will take it cum grano salis and with humor, the emotionally unstable ones, well, you saw the last nutjob's meltdown.... But a healthy reality check is always beneficial, even when shocking. Ah, and I switch to Latin and similar when I simply get tired with dimwitted, whining manchildren plaguing me, it works wonders, believe me. Und nun möchtet ich wiederum die Sprache wechseln, da du als personifizierter intellektueller Nudist kein adäquater Ansprechpartner für mich bist. Ou en francais,...non, tu es Canadien...tant pis pour toi. The only one having a meltdown is you. Also, when you are going to acknowledge that none of the tall, muscly guys in the MCU wear tights like I pointed out?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 23:20:50 GMT
Yes, your posts do come across as quite barbaric. That's largely because you act like one. And if you think your constant rambling is going to wear people down and make them see your view over time, you're sadly mistaken. Also, writing entire posts in Latin does not make you seem intelligent. Rather, it makes you seem desperate to appear intelligent. enter FlyingJ87, dude you truly sound like a broken record. This is exactly why I said "Bis repetita non placent!". "I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get them all riled up like that, huh, kid?" I was asked several times to respond, and when I do, I cut through the BS and state facts and personal experience as are. Stating the obvious is never popular with some; nerds with a healthy mind will take it cum grano salis and with humor, the emotionally unstable ones, well, you saw the last nutjob's meltdown.... But a healthy reality check is always beneficial, even when shocking. Ah, and I switch to Latin and similar when I simply get tired with dimwitted, whining manchildren plaguing me, it works wonders, believe me. Und nun möchtet ich wiederum die Sprache wechseln, da du als personifizierter intellektueller Nudist kein adäquater Ansprechpartner für mich bist. Ou en francais,...non, tu es Canadien...tant pis pour toi. Finndu út hvaða tungumál þetta er, Tristan.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 24, 2017 1:00:33 GMT
Utinni!
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Post by yogabagaba on May 24, 2017 3:55:16 GMT
enter FlyingJ87, dude you truly sound like a broken record. This is exactly why I said "Bis repetita non placent!". "I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get them all riled up like that, huh, kid?" I was asked several times to respond, and when I do, I cut through the BS and state facts and personal experience as are. Stating the obvious is never popular with some; nerds with a healthy mind will take it cum grano salis and with humor, the emotionally unstable ones, well, you saw the last nutjob's meltdown.... But a healthy reality check is always beneficial, even when shocking. Ah, and I switch to Latin and similar when I simply get tired with dimwitted, whining manchildren plaguing me, it works wonders, believe me. Und nun möchtet ich wiederum die Sprache wechseln, da du als personifizierter intellektueller Nudist kein adäquater Ansprechpartner für mich bist. Ou en francais,...non, tu es Canadien...tant pis pour toi. The only one having a meltdown is you. Also, when you are going to acknowledge that none of the tall, muscly guys in the MCU wear tights like I pointed out? This brat isn't going to acknowledge anything others point out that disprove his nonsensical posts. As evidenced by his refusal to acknowledge any of the actual arguments brought forth in your or my posts. Hell, he seems to think I'm some prior acquaintance, and in another post referred to me as a "lusty warrior," only to be confused when I was put-off by this random term (it leaves one wondering what kind of social circle Tristan has constructed in real life...if he has one at all). He also seems to believe that I'm Canadian, and can thus speak French? Hell, even I know that many Canadians, especially those in Western Canada, have no use for the French language. How ignorant can one child be? Ultimately, we should let the furry-enthusiast be. After all, what kind of grown man would be so obsessed with Thundercats that he'd use its logo as an avatar on a forum?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 4:56:21 GMT
The only one having a meltdown is you. Also, when you are going to acknowledge that none of the tall, muscly guys in the MCU wear tights like I pointed out? This brat isn't going to acknowledge anything others point out that disprove his nonsensical posts. As evidenced by his refusal to acknowledge any of the actual arguments brought forth in your or my posts. Hell, he seems to think I'm some prior acquaintance, and in another post referred to me as a "lusty warrior," only to be confused when I was put-off by this random term (it leaves one wondering what kind of social circle Tristan has constructed in real life...if he has one at all). He also seems to believe that I'm Canadian, and can thus speak French? Hell, even I know that many Canadians, especially those in Western Canada, have no use for the French language. How ignorant can one child be? Ultimately, we should let the furry-enthusiast be. After all, what kind of grown man would be so obsessed with Thundercats that he'd use its logo as an avatar on a forum? Even as a kid, I knew that French is only spoken by a minority in Canada. What's this guy's excuse? Speaking of foreign languages, the fact Google Translator perfectly translated all his Latin, German, and French (which NEVER happens when you're translating something legitimate with it) leads me to believe its what he used to begin with to make those posts. He doesn't know those languages for real. But yeah, you're right. He'll never acknowledge something that completely blows his inane crap out of the water.
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Post by yogabagaba on May 24, 2017 5:19:30 GMT
This brat isn't going to acknowledge anything others point out that disprove his nonsensical posts. As evidenced by his refusal to acknowledge any of the actual arguments brought forth in your or my posts. Hell, he seems to think I'm some prior acquaintance, and in another post referred to me as a "lusty warrior," only to be confused when I was put-off by this random term (it leaves one wondering what kind of social circle Tristan has constructed in real life...if he has one at all). He also seems to believe that I'm Canadian, and can thus speak French? Hell, even I know that many Canadians, especially those in Western Canada, have no use for the French language. How ignorant can one child be? Ultimately, we should let the furry-enthusiast be. After all, what kind of grown man would be so obsessed with Thundercats that he'd use its logo as an avatar on a forum? Even as a kid, I knew that French is only spoken by a minority in Canada. What's this guy's excuse? Speaking of foreign languages, the fact Google Translator perfectly translated all his Latin, German, and French (which NEVER happens when you're translating something legitimate with it) leads me to believe its what he used to begin with to make those posts. He doesn't know those languages for real. But yeah, you're right. He'll never acknowledge something that completely blows his inane crap out of the water. Indeed, that's a good point. That Google translate perfectly translates his latin and French posts proves what a poser he is. But hey, we should be taking pity on Tristan. After all, on top of all his insane posts, whether they be about comic book films of Star Wars films, the guy is a furry? Yeeesh XD
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 5:25:22 GMT
Even as a kid, I knew that French is only spoken by a minority in Canada. What's this guy's excuse? Speaking of foreign languages, the fact Google Translator perfectly translated all his Latin, German, and French (which NEVER happens when you're translating something legitimate with it) leads me to believe its what he used to begin with to make those posts. He doesn't know those languages for real. But yeah, you're right. He'll never acknowledge something that completely blows his inane crap out of the water. Indeed, that's a good point. That Google translate perfectly translates his latin and French posts proves what a poser he is. But hey, we should be taking pity on Tristan. After all, on top of all his insane posts, whether they be about comic book films of Star Wars films, the guy is a furry? Yeeesh XD What's worse is that for all his talk about "beefcakes in tights", out of the MCU and Thundercats, it's not the former that has big beefy dudes in skin-tight clothes.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 5:48:41 GMT
Yes, your posts do come across as quite barbaric. That's largely because you act like one. And if you think your constant rambling is going to wear people down and make them see your view over time, you're sadly mistaken. Also, writing entire posts in Latin does not make you seem intelligent. Rather, it makes you seem desperate to appear intelligent. enter FlyingJ87, dude you truly sound like a broken record. This is exactly why I said "Bis repetita non placent!". "I must have hit pretty close to the mark to get them all riled up like that, huh, kid?" I was asked several times to respond, and when I do, I cut through the BS and state facts and personal experience as are. Stating the obvious is never popular with some; nerds with a healthy mind will take it cum grano salis and with humor, the emotionally unstable ones, well, you saw the last nutjob's meltdown.... But a healthy reality check is always beneficial, even when shocking. Ah, and I switch to Latin and similar when I simply get tired with dimwitted, whining manchildren plaguing me, it works wonders, believe me. Und nun möchtet ich wiederum die Sprache wechseln, da du als personifizierter intellektueller Nudist kein adäquater Ansprechpartner für mich bist. Ou en francais,...non, tu es Canadien...tant pis pour toi. Dus je weet hoe Google Translate werkt. Nou je bent echt heel goed, slim en volwassen. Niet dus. Je denkt dat je superieur bent en claimt volwassen te zijn maar juist door dat gedrag laat je zien dat je nog nauwelijks haar op je worm hebt. Je mist duidelijk het vermogen om de onderliggende boodschappen in het MCU te zien en denkt dat die er niet zijn omdat er ooit een idioot was die gezegd heeft dat Nolans films voor volwassenen zijn en het MCU duidelijk anders is en je daarom concludeert dat het wel voor kinderen moet zijn. Het feit dat je verteld moet worden wat volwassen is en wat niet en daar dus niet zelf over kan nadenken maakt je tot iemand die vertelt moet worden wat te denken en wat te zeggen: een kind. Poor guy. Sarcasm translates so poorly on Google.
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