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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 22:17:34 GMT
I loved wrestling in the 1980s and 1990s.
I was a wrestling freak. An encyclopedia of knowledge when it comes to that era.
Now, it’s unwatchable. Why!?
First and foremost it’s kid friendly. What made it cool as a kid was when WWF had attitude and WCW had bloody matches and barbed wire. Cursing, drinking, boobs, etc…
Then, on top of that. They had great personality. Every guy didn’t have to look buff or like a model. You had Hacksaw Jim Dugan. Big Boss Man. Big Van Vader. Even Hulk Hogan was a balding man with long hair and ugly af. It was about charisma, personality. Who could shoot?
Also, you had good story plots. It was a soap opera for men. It made you care for a face. And hate a heel. Now, you could care less. If someone turned heel, it meant something. It didn’t happen every show.
Next, you had fake fighting. Over the top junk. Guys doing ridiculous things. Not “technical” wrestling. Back then, guys would lock up, then do something cool like choke someone out. The ref would check to see if they could lift their arm. Could someone get out of the sharp shooter? And if a major superstar hit their finishing move, it was over. Nobody kicked out unless it was WrestleMania or some major battle of the Titans. Nowadays, they look like they do flips, jumps, flashy moves. But they just get right up. Back in the day, if you hit someone, they’d hold their head and act hurt, maybe a heel is really going after someone’s knee. So you as a viewer are worried about the guys knee. He’s limping, giving it his all. And if he ends up pushing through the knee pain, landing his move after he blew out his knee. Gets the 1-2-3!!! It was EPIC. Or a back injury, whatever. Now, there’s no weight. You land a big pile driver, he quickly gets the 1-2 … kick out. Guy gets right up like he’s fine. They keep moving, they don’t take a moment to breathe.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 20, 2021 13:45:38 GMT
That was the WWF in the 80s as well.
I absolutely 100% agree with this. The art of selling is dying out. And unfortunately, a lot of it is because of the WWF Attitude Era. Too many guys during cage and ladder matches started jumping and falling off higher and higher heights, and still getting back up to finish the match. A lot of it became too much of a spot fest.
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Post by factchecker2point0 on Sept 20, 2021 16:42:21 GMT
“We used to pretend to beat each other up, would barely touch each other, and fans thought it was real, so we called them Marks. Now we really beat the hell out of each other, and fans think it’s fake. Who are the Marks now?”
Jim Cornette
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Post by MooseNugget on Sept 20, 2021 16:53:56 GMT
I don't have a problem with being kid friendly... well in reality advertiser friendly, but I would call what WWE does is aim their product towards children and it makes their product uncool.
The wrestling has gotten worse because there’s no territory system for wrestlers to learn in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 16:57:03 GMT
That was the WWF in the 80s as well. I absolutely 100% agree with this. The art of selling is dying out. And unfortunately, a lot of it is because of the WWF Attitude Era. Too many guys during cage and ladder matches started jumping and falling off higher and higher heights, and still getting back up to finish the match. A lot of it became too much of a spot fest. You’re right, it was kid friendly. But it wasn’t geared towards kids. It was more like “Family Friendly” that’s the difference. It still had blood, Jake the Snake, there was an edge to it. Like Superheroes in live action,
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Post by petrolino on Sept 20, 2021 17:02:38 GMT
That was the WWF in the 80s as well. I absolutely 100% agree with this. The art of selling is dying out. And unfortunately, a lot of it is because of the WWF Attitude Era. Too many guys during cage and ladder matches started jumping and falling off higher and higher heights, and still getting back up to finish the match. A lot of it became too much of a spot fest. You’re right, it was kid friendly. But it wasn’t geared towards kids. It was more like “Family Friendly” that’s the difference. It still had blood, Jake the Snake, there was an edge to it. Like Superheroes in live action,
Hulk Hogan seemed like a superhero. It felt like he was an industry in himself when I was a kid. The toys, the merchandise, the catchphrases, the film roles. He would do a ton of axe handles, a big bad power slam, run hard between the ropes ... the shirt was slowly ripped open to expose his freshly oiled, tanned muscles, like the Incredible Hulk on holiday. Sometimes he would spend an eternity hulking up and there was only one outcome. Captain America was no match for the Hulkster.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 20, 2021 19:26:28 GMT
That was the WWF in the 80s as well. I absolutely 100% agree with this. The art of selling is dying out. And unfortunately, a lot of it is because of the WWF Attitude Era. Too many guys during cage and ladder matches started jumping and falling off higher and higher heights, and still getting back up to finish the match. A lot of it became too much of a spot fest. You’re right, it was kid friendly. But it wasn’t geared towards kids. It was more like “Family Friendly” that’s the difference. It still had blood, Jake the Snake, there was an edge to it. Like Superheroes in live action, Actually, the WWF was one of the first, and certainly biggest, companies to be geared towards kids. That was one of Vince's goals. That's why they started coming out with toys, lunchboxes, cartoons, and other merchandise exclusively for children. And as for blood and an edge, the current WWE does still have that. There are guys like Brock Lesnar, Randy Orton, and others that certainly push the limits of the PG era. There are still infidelity angles and Bray Wyatt was set on fire not too long ago. I do believe WWE went far too hard with the kid-friendly PG era several years ago when Linda was running for Senate, and that no doubt turned a lot of fans away from the product. But nowadays, the issues aren't with the lack of edge, there's as much edge now as there was in the 80s. The real issues are with hot shotting or nonsensical angles. No real consistency or continuity with most of the roster. And 50/50 booking that leads to no real stakes.
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Post by redcharge on Sept 27, 2021 1:31:49 GMT
stale and predictable is one reason
"Oh whats he/she gonna do now?"
"A Chair shot I cant believe it a chair shot"
Really? did you honestly think they were grabbing the chair just to sit down in the ring to catch a breather?
same as Nascar
"WOW A LEFT TURN" WTF is so exiting about a left turn?
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