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Post by thebayharborbutcher on Sept 27, 2021 11:44:54 GMT
I think the Patriots are rushing Mac Jones as their starter. To me, he isn't ready to start yet. He's too young and inexperienced. They should have kept and started Cam Newton. Then slowly integrated Mac Jones in later.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 27, 2021 11:47:53 GMT
He was definitely in over his head yesterday. Doesn't really matter, because without an all time great QB, Belichick is exposed as the fraud he is. The guy sucks, and everyone knows it now.
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Post by thebayharborbutcher on Sept 27, 2021 17:00:01 GMT
He was definitely in over his head yesterday. Doesn't really matter, because without an all time great QB, Belichick is exposed as the fraud he is. The guy sucks, and everyone knows it now. I don't think he's a fraud. I think he's an incredibly knowledgable and successful coach. However, he's not infallible. He made a big mistake handling the Brady situation. Starting all the way back when he drafted Jimmy G. and starting grooming him as Brady's replacement. I know he has his ways and is stubborn. But he also has to learn to adapt and learn that in certain situations a one way method doesn't always work. He should have broke his own rules when it came to Brady, and unfortunately for him his decision not to is coming back to bite him in the behind. That being said I do think it's possible for him to rebuild, but it's gonna take time. Time he doesn't necessarily have with the lack of patience from the New England media/fandom and his age. I say you give the guy five years. I don't see anyone that much better coming along. If he can rebuild them into true contenders within the next 5 years (including 2020) then I think that's gonna speak volumes to his legacy. If not he's always gonna be remembered for his Brady debacle over just about anything else.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 27, 2021 17:55:41 GMT
He was definitely in over his head yesterday. Doesn't really matter, because without an all time great QB, Belichick is exposed as the fraud he is. The guy sucks, and everyone knows it now. I don't think he's a fraud. I think he's an incredibly knowledgable and successful coach. However, he's not infallible. He made a big mistake handling the Brady situation. Starting all the way back when he drafted Jimmy G. and starting grooming him as Brady's replacement. I know he has his ways and is stubborn. But he also has to learn to adapt and learn that in certain situations a one way method doesn't always work. He should have broke his own rules when it came to Brady, and unfortunately for him his decision not to is coming back to bite him in the behind. That being said I do think it's possible for him to rebuild, but it's gonna take time. Time he doesn't necessarily have with the lack of patience from the New England media/fandom and his age. I say you give the guy five years. I don't see anyone that much better coming along. If he can rebuild them into true contenders within the next 5 years (including 2020) then I think that's gonna speak volumes to his legacy. If not he's always gonna be remembered for his Brady debacle over just about anything else. He's only successful with Brady. 36-44 in 5 seasons in Cleveland, only once having a winning record and making the playoffs, where he went 1-1. Came to New England in 2000 and went 5-11 with a team that hadn't had a losing record since 1995. Started the next season 0-2, enter Brady who goes 11-3 in the regular season and wins the Super Bowl. (This is not the only time Brady would win the Super Bowl in his first season as a starter with his team.) Five division titles, three Super Bowls and two more Lombardis later, Brady goes down for the season in week one in 2008 and the Patriots miss the playoffs. Brady comes back, the Patriots win ELEVEN division titles and three more Super Bowls. Brady leaves town, the Patriots miss the playoffs for the first time since the last time he wasn't their yearlong starter. Spotting the trend yet? Belichick's overall record without Tom Brady: 63-74For the 'well, most of that that was Cleveland' crowd (as if the head coach isn't responsible for building a culture in five years?), Belichick without Tom Brady in New England: 26-28I can continue (and boy does this board know I can continue), but let's take a shortcut and explain how, if Belichick is so great, his winning percentage drops off a cliff when Brady isn't around. And yes, I already know "He's seen as an all time great by so and so, he's on all these lists, etc.," Get those authors, pundits and former greats to explain it then. Why can't he win without Tom Brady? From six rings with Brady to one playoff appearance and a 1-1 record without him? And it isn't exactly a small sample size. This will be season #4 in New England without Tom Brady, and Belichick has yet to make the playoffs. The 'greatest of all time' is a sub-.500 coach without Tom Brady. *Edit: I just realized I didn't add this year's record. So that's 64-76, 27-30 in NE without Brady. It literally gets worse by the week. You want to give him five years? He hasn't drafted well for at least 7 years, and look at the money he pissed away (in desperation, to fill in the holes Brady can't cover up anymore-- something he never bothered to do when Brady was here) this offseason for a team that will miss the playoffs again. He's terrible, he always was. Tom Brady got his teams to win despite Belichick's incompetence and stinginess. Without the greatest QB ever to cover for him, people are finally being reminded how shitty a coach he was before Brady fell into his lap. (And no, Belichick isn't the one who drafted Brady.) It's time for a fresh start with a new vision, not an old hack fucking up the coaching as much as the draft. The guy bought into his own hype and started to believe he could win with anyone. He's learning the hard way what anyone who has documented his career already knew. And Patriots fans have to suffer through losing season after losing season because Kraft won't admit he fucked up by choosing this bum over the QB who actually helped the team win.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Sept 27, 2021 20:53:00 GMT
I don’t agree I think the Pats were right to start Jones, and he isn’t playing terribly, he had a bad game yesterday but all rookie QB’s have some lousy showings. Do you think the Jags are rushing Lawrence? Are the Jets rushing Wilson? Both of those guys have played worse than Mac Jones.
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