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Post by ck100 on Sept 29, 2021 2:45:25 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Sept 29, 2021 3:21:27 GMT
After all the delays, it’s finally coming out next week.
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Sept 30, 2021 1:42:35 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Sept 30, 2021 23:36:25 GMT
"It isn't the sleekest or most daring 007 adventure, but No Time to Die concludes Daniel Craig's franchise tenure in satisfying style" is the current consensus.
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Post by moviemanjackson on Oct 2, 2021 17:44:00 GMT
I got to see it on Wed. Def under Casino Royale and Skyfall, above Spectre and QoS.
I think it's pretty good, great first two acts, loses steam in the final act but a beautiful ending. Blofeld is better here, but it does minimize Safin as a villain (like Malek but has little to work with and make an impact on). Nevertheless, the action is good, and so is the cast as a whole. Think it'll be hard for most to be disappointed with the send-off for Craig.
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Post by Nora on Oct 2, 2021 19:08:56 GMT
just saw it. cant believe what they did to the franchise. poor ian fleming must be turning in his grave. awfull.
could have been a very good action movie just not a bond movie.
bloody gen Zs or whoevers fault this is.
aaargh.
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Post by Lux on Oct 2, 2021 19:11:34 GMT
I got to see it on Wed. Def under Casino Royale and Skyfall, above Spectre and QoS. I think it's pretty good, great first two acts, loses steam in the final act but a beautiful ending. Blofeld is better here, but it does minimize Safin as a villain (like Malek but has little to work with and make an impact on). Nevertheless, the action is good, and so is the cast as a whole. Think it'll be hard for most to be disappointed with the send-off for Craig. I disagree about Blofeld, I think he was rather useless and even more of an Austin Powers parody than he was in Spectre, he was brought on for five minutes pushed through an endless slow conveyer belt only to be strangled to death sort of, if anything it was Safin that was better than Blofeld in this and with an infinitely better reason for being a villain than "Bond stealing his daddy" even if Safin was a bit over the top by the end.
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Post by Downey on Oct 2, 2021 19:15:02 GMT
just saw it. cant believe what they did to the franchise. poor ian fleming must be turning in hos grave. awful. could have been a very good action movie just not a bond movie. bloody gen Zs or whoevers fault this is. aaargh. Why? Are you talking about just Craig's films and this?
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Post by moviemanjackson on Oct 2, 2021 20:27:09 GMT
I got to see it on Wed. Def under Casino Royale and Skyfall, above Spectre and QoS. I think it's pretty good, great first two acts, loses steam in the final act but a beautiful ending. Blofeld is better here, but it does minimize Safin as a villain (like Malek but has little to work with and make an impact on). Nevertheless, the action is good, and so is the cast as a whole. Think it'll be hard for most to be disappointed with the send-off for Craig. I disagree about Blofeld, I think he was rather useless and even more of an Austin Powers parody than he was in Spectre, he was brought on for five minutes pushed through an endless slow conveyer belt only to be strangled to death sort of, if anything it was Safin that was better than Blofeld in this and with an infinitely better reason for being a villain than "Bond stealing his daddy" even if Safin was a bit over the top by the end. Totally get that, and the conveyor belt thing was too much. I think for me, my expectations were tamped down more as it pertains to Blofeld, so I much enjoyed him here and found him more believable/compelling.
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Post by Nora on Oct 2, 2021 20:35:20 GMT
just saw it. cant believe what they did to the franchise. poor ian fleming must be turning in hos grave. awful. could have been a very good action movie just not a bond movie. bloody gen Zs or whoevers fault this is. aaargh. Why? Are you talking about just Craig's films and this? just this installment. liked the previous ones a lot.
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Post by Lux on Oct 2, 2021 20:56:27 GMT
I disagree about Blofeld, I think he was rather useless and even more of an Austin Powers parody than he was in Spectre, he was brought on for five minutes pushed through an endless slow conveyer belt only to be strangled to death sort of, if anything it was Safin that was better than Blofeld in this and with an infinitely better reason for being a villain than "Bond stealing his daddy" even if Safin was a bit over the top by the end. Totally get that, and the conveyor belt thing was too much. I think for me, my expectations were tamped down more as it pertains to Blofeld, so I much enjoyed him here and found him more believable/compelling. Yes the Blofeld conveyor belt was peak Austin Powers. I didn't find Blofeld that compelling from the start of Spectre, the jealous step brother angle was honestly the most ridiculous villain's origin story I've ever seen and that absurdity remained with this latest Bond film. You need to understand that having your dad prefer another child over you isn't international crime boss worthy.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Oct 2, 2021 23:03:41 GMT
just saw it. cant believe what they did to the franchise. poor ian fleming must be turning in hos grave. awful. could have been a very good action movie just not a bond movie. bloody gen Zs or whoevers fault this is. aaargh. Without spoilers, what were your issues with it?
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Post by spooner5020 on Oct 2, 2021 23:24:39 GMT
How was the writing? Could you tell the woman from Fleabag wrote it?
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Oct 2, 2021 23:41:06 GMT
I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but there's one floating around about Bond having a kid...
If so, I hasten to add that Ian "I'm Not Exactly Spinning in My Grave" Fleming writes at the end of the novel You Only Live Twice (published in 1964) that... Kissy Suzuki is pregnant with Bond's child.
So in the Bond literary canon, at least, James Bond is a daddy.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 3, 2021 0:17:00 GMT
I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but there's one floating around about Bond having a kid... If so, I hasten to add that Ian "I'm Not Exactly Spinning in My Grave" Fleming writes at the end of the novel You Only Live Twice (published in 1964) that... Kissy Suzuki is pregnant with Bond's child. So in the Bond literary canon, at least, James Bond is a daddy. I remember that some British tabloid (maybe the Daily Mail) released set photos of Daniel Craig and other crew members with a young child that was suspected to be playing his daughter.
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Post by Lux on Oct 3, 2021 0:29:41 GMT
How was the writing? Could you tell the woman from Fleabag wrote it? Yes you could actually tell she wrote some parts I actually don't like her but the parts I suspect she contributed to in the Bond film were quite funny.
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Post by Nora on Oct 3, 2021 14:34:29 GMT
How was the writing? Could you tell the woman from Fleabag wrote it? Yes you could actually tell she wrote some parts I actually don't like her but the parts I suspect she contributed to in the Bond film were quite funny. like which ones??
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Post by Nora on Oct 3, 2021 14:35:03 GMT
just saw it. cant believe what they did to the franchise. poor ian fleming must be turning in hos grave. awful. could have been a very good action movie just not a bond movie. bloody gen Zs or whoevers fault this is. aaargh. Without spoilers, what were your issues with it? it cannot be said without massive spoilers... maybe just one part. the cheesines of it all bugged me. but thats minor complaint against the main ones i have.
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Post by Lux on Oct 3, 2021 14:44:20 GMT
Yes you could actually tell she wrote some parts I actually don't like her but the parts I suspect she contributed to in the Bond film were quite funny. like which ones?? The scientist scenes, maybe the replacement 007 scenes, the Bond henchman Primo fight scenes, the Paloma agent scenes, the Bond fan CIA agent scenes it was a lot funnier than Craig's previous Bond films.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Oct 3, 2021 20:17:58 GMT
Saw this today. The 3D was interesting. A definite improvement over Spectre and Craigs Bond kind of came full circle as the tormented one.
The so-called "wokeness" criticism was exagerrated. They handled the female 007 Nomi nicely and it wasn't distracting.
It was a bit disappointing to see Ana De Aramas role was basically an extended cameo. Her character Paloma was sweet and badass.
Madeleine Swann was better handled here than Spectre. Seydoux gave a solid performance.
They could have given Safin a bit more back story. Malek did the best he could with the material.
The action scenes were well shot. Fukunaga knows how to film action scenes.
Overall I think this was a solid Bond entry and Craig's third best behind Casino Royale and Skyfall. I feel like Craig at least 1 more Bond movie left in him. He still looked lively in the role.
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