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Post by hi224 on Oct 16, 2021 14:06:45 GMT
I guess mine was Jerry Maguire.
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Post by mikef6 on Oct 16, 2021 14:36:32 GMT
Since you started with "Jerry Maguire" which is neither classic nor classic era (for what it's worth, according to me, anyway) I will go with "Agora" (2009) seen in 2019. The last true classic was TCM's theatrical showing of "The Maltese Falcon" (1941) in 2016 for it's 75th anniversary. Check out my recent thread on this very board for the Falcon's 80th anniversary earlier this month. IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/283555/maltese-falcon-80-years-old |
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Post by politicidal on Oct 16, 2021 15:56:35 GMT
The Dark Knight.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 16, 2021 16:20:04 GMT
Since you started with "Jerry Maguire" which is neither classic nor classic era (for what it's worth, according to me, anyway) I will go with "Agora" (2009) seen in 2019. The last true classic was TCM's theatrical showing of "The Maltese Falcon" (1941) in 2016 for it's 75th anniversary. Check out my recent thread on this very board for the Falcon's 80th anniversary earlier this month. IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/283555/maltese-falcon-80-years-oldits 25 years old and can very much be defined as a a classic within its era, its kind of funny how we seem to cutoff at a certain date for films without realizing eventually film we watched that gets raved will be seen as a classic masterpiece. in 20 years No Country for Old men will in fact be, considered a classic.
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Post by mikef6 on Oct 16, 2021 16:25:58 GMT
Since you started with "Jerry Maguire" which is neither classic nor classic era (for what it's worth, according to me, anyway) I will go with "Agora" (2009) seen in 2019. The last true classic was TCM's theatrical showing of "The Maltese Falcon" (1941) in 2016 for it's 75th anniversary. Check out my recent thread on this very board for the Falcon's 80th anniversary earlier this month. IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/283555/maltese-falcon-80-years-oldits 25 years old and can very much be defined as a a classic within its era, its kind of funny how we seem to cutoff at a certain date for films without realizing eventually film we watched that gets raved will be seen as a classic masterpiece. in 20 years No Country for Old men will in fact be, considered a classic. Yes, it is personal. For me the Silent Era ended in 1927. The Classic Era ended in the very last years of the 1960s as the New Hollywood, the new film school directors, and the fall of the Production Code ushered in the Modern Era. So, until the years after the (admittedly arbitrary) date of 1970 become another historical period in film, anything 1970 and forward is not classic. Like I said, that is by my own personal reckoning. No one else has to abide by it (and I don't think anybody does).
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Post by hi224 on Oct 16, 2021 16:29:22 GMT
its 25 years old and can very much be defined as a a classic within its era, its kind of funny how we seem to cutoff at a certain date for films without realizing eventually film we watched that gets raved will be seen as a classic masterpiece. in 20 years No Country for Old men will in fact be, considered a classic. Yes, it is personal. For me the Silent Era ended in 1927. The Classic Era ended in the very last years of the 1960s as the New Hollywood, the new film school directors, and the fall of the Production Code ushered in the Modern Era. So, until the years after the (admittedly arbitrary) date of 1970 become another historical period in film, anything 1970 and forward is not classic. Like I said, that is by my own personal reckoning. No one else has to abide by it (and I don't think anybody does). as I am not forcing you to abide by my definition.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 16, 2021 16:30:06 GMT
was a re-release recent?.
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Post by OldAussie on Oct 16, 2021 21:03:34 GMT
11 Dec 2020 Die Hard
13 Jul 2020 Predator
02 Mar 2020 Casablanca
17 Feb 2020 The Night of the Hunter
09 Dec 2019 It's a Wonderful Life
02 Dec 2019 The Searchers
18 Nov 2019 Bonnie and Clyde
04 Nov 2019 All the President's Men
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 16, 2021 21:20:03 GMT
By definition, a classic film is one that is 25 years old or older, and has made an impact on culture and cinematic zeitgeist.
So it has to be a movie made before 1996.
And i can`t really think of any movies i have seen in the cinema made before 1996 that had a impact on culture and cinematic zeitgeist.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 16, 2021 22:55:22 GMT
By definition, a classic film is one that is 25 years old or older, and has made an impact on culture and cinematic zeitgeist. So it has to be a movie made before 1996. And i can`t really think of any movies i have seen in the cinema made before 1996 that had a impact on culture and cinematic zeitgeist. By your definition. |
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Post by marianne48 on Oct 16, 2021 23:52:31 GMT
Forrrst Gump.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Oct 17, 2021 0:15:23 GMT
When it comes to defining a classic film, probably the only thing upon which most could agree is that very few can agree on what defines one. A strictly calendar-based cutoff point like 25 years strikes me as arbitrary, but Feologild Oakes 's addition of "an impact on culture and cinematic zeitgeist" as criteria add some validating heft to the theory. To that, I think I'd add "endurance:" qualities that still resonate with viewers after the periods in which they were made have long passed. If I had to go out on a limb, I'd step as far as to acknowledge that there existed what can be called a "classic era," and mikef6 's description of that era as having "ended in the very last years of the 1960s as the New Hollywood, the new film school directors, and the fall of the Production Code ushered in the Modern Era" is a credible and well-reasoned one. I hasten to note, however, that production and release within that period needn't necessarily confer "classic" status upon any given film on its own. And I would depart from him at the point where "anything 1970 and forward is not classic." That would knock out films like Cabaret, The Godfather, Chinatown and Network for example, which are titles I'd be loath to exclude from any "classics" list. Perhaps they deserve their own category: New Classics; Modern Classics? The "classic" designation itself is no stranger to sub-categories: "Cult Classic;" "Camp Classic" and what-have-you. An old friend from the even older - and now defunct - IMDB boards (who now posts on another movie site) is fond of noting that every viewer experiences and processes every film in a way that's unique to them. Citing one of his favorites, he sums it up as " My Psycho is not your Psycho." In that sense, it may be that everyone is entitled to their own definition; my classics are not your classics. I can't say Jerry Maguire is one of mine, but it's not for me to say it can't be one for hi224 or anybody else. And what was the last classic film I saw in a theater? As a character in a widely-acknowledged classic said, "That's so long ago I don't remember." |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 17, 2021 1:56:12 GMT
its 25 years old and can very much be defined as a a classic within its era, its kind of funny how we seem to cutoff at a certain date for films without realizing eventually film we watched that gets raved will be seen as a classic masterpiece. in 20 years No Country for Old men will in fact be, considered a classic. Yes, it is personal. For me the Silent Era ended in 1927. The Classic Era ended in the very last years of the 1960s as the New Hollywood, the new film school directors, and the fall of the Production Code ushered in the Modern Era. So, until the years after the (admittedly arbitrary) date of 1970 become another historical period in film, anything 1970 and forward is not classic. Like I said, that is by my own personal reckoning. No one else has to abide by it (and I don't think anybody does). I use a similar divide of about 1980. An arbitrary date as the writing was on the wall for a large part of the 1970s (a "transitional" period maybe). 1980 is a nice round number, plus it's the year of Heaven's Gate and when "the accountants really took over Hollywood". That being said, later films can still be "classics", but not "classic era".
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Post by hi224 on Oct 17, 2021 2:00:48 GMT
Yes, it is personal. For me the Silent Era ended in 1927. The Classic Era ended in the very last years of the 1960s as the New Hollywood, the new film school directors, and the fall of the Production Code ushered in the Modern Era. So, until the years after the (admittedly arbitrary) date of 1970 become another historical period in film, anything 1970 and forward is not classic. Like I said, that is by my own personal reckoning. No one else has to abide by it (and I don't think anybody does). I use a similar divide of about 1980. An arbitrary date as the writing was on the wall for a large part of the 1970s (a "transitional" period maybe). 1980 is a nice round number, plus it's the year of Heaven's Gate and when "the accountants really took over Hollywood". That being said, later films can still be "classics", but not "classic era". I didn't realize this thread would get derailed with this, but just simply mean classics not referring to an era. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 17, 2021 2:01:49 GMT
And in response to the OP
Kwaidan (1964) in October 2019
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Oct 17, 2021 2:04:13 GMT
I use a similar divide of about 1980. An arbitrary date as the writing was on the wall for a large part of the 1970s (a "transitional" period maybe). 1980 is a nice round number, plus it's the year of Heaven's Gate and when "the accountants really took over Hollywood". That being said, later films can still be "classics", but not "classic era". I didn't realize this thread would get derailed with this, but just simply mean classics not referring to an era. Apologies, unfortunately you can never tell where a thread will go. Discussion is discussion and if it's keeping the board active and engaged, I'm not complaining. I did go back and answer you OP too.
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Post by jervistetch on Oct 17, 2021 2:08:36 GMT
A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE Paramount Theater. Oakland, CA. 2011 Ten years, now? Too long.  |
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Post by hi224 on Oct 17, 2021 2:10:35 GMT
And in response to the OP Kwaidan (1964) in October 2019 [br Lucky man good film. |
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Post by mikef6 on Oct 17, 2021 2:25:35 GMT
Yes, it is personal. For me the Silent Era ended in 1927. The Classic Era ended in the very last years of the 1960s as the New Hollywood, the new film school directors, and the fall of the Production Code ushered in the Modern Era. So, until the years after the (admittedly arbitrary) date of 1970 become another historical period in film, anything 1970 and forward is not classic. Like I said, that is by my own personal reckoning. No one else has to abide by it (and I don't think anybody does). I use a similar divide of about 1980. An arbitrary date as the writing was on the wall for a large part of the 1970s (a "transitional" period maybe). 1980 is a nice round number, plus it's the year of Heaven's Gate and when "the accountants really took over Hollywood". That being said, later films can still be "classics", but not "classic era". I think I like the idea of 1980 instead of 1970. As Doghouse6 says above, my way leaves out films like Cabaret, The Godfather, Chinatown and Network. Mmmmm. I going to have to study on that. I've stuck with 1970 for a long time now, but, hey, who wants to be set in his ways? A sign of old age? Not me dude. I'm with it. Far out.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Oct 17, 2021 3:58:32 GMT
I use a similar divide of about 1980. An arbitrary date as the writing was on the wall for a large part of the 1970s (a "transitional" period maybe). 1980 is a nice round number, plus it's the year of Heaven's Gate and when "the accountants really took over Hollywood". That being said, later films can still be "classics", but not "classic era". I didn't realize this thread would get derailed with this, but just simply mean classics not referring to an era. To Fox in the Snow's, I'll add my own apology for the part I played in taking your thread off the rails (although I'm wholeheartedly on board with anything keeping a thread active and engaged). On the rare occasions I start one, I usually encourage others to do with it as they will but, as with any OP: your thread; your rules. So, to try and rectify having gone all Claude Rains/King Kong on your train, I've dug deep into the recesses of memory and narrowed an answer down to either Oklahoma! at Hollywood's Egyptian Theater or Lawrence Of Arabia at the now-gone Plitt Century City Theater, both in beautiful new 70mm prints and both about 30 years ago. That brings to mind a whole carload of thoughts about classic cinema in the great revival theater era of the late '60s into the '80s, but I'm hesitant about diverting again onto an unauthorized spur line.
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