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Post by SportsFan19 on Nov 18, 2021 18:19:13 GMT
Looks like a pretty weak field compared to Pujols heyday. Harper might win, despite his season being poor compared to his big season in Washington. I'd be embarrassed to win NL MVP this season, unless it's Trey Turner. I respectfully disagree, Harper really does deserve it this year (the nonsense in this thread notwithstanding). I know people hate Harper, but he led the league in doubles, SLG, OPS and OPS+, all with a not-great lineup around him. Moreover, he single-handedly carried the Phillies to a near-playoff berth and that's meaningful. Juan Soto, to me is the best hitter in the game today and there's no denying how incredible he is. He put up a .465 OBP which is amazing, but honestly, he basically spent the entire season getting intentionally unintentionally walked, if that makes sense (last year too). You can probably count the fastballs he saw on two hands. Of course, it'll be funny if Soto (or anyone else) wins the award for obvious reasons, but objectively for me, and all things being equal, it should be Harper. OH I don't hate Harper, my posts regarding all things Philly are purely facetious, for obvious reasons (also because there's often not a lot of serious discussion around here). My biggest gripe with Harper (and Rendon for that matter) us leaving D.C., I'd love seeing Soto and Harper playing the corner OF spots, racking uo BB's, HR, 2B's, Runs and RBI while Rendon punishes the lefties brought in to counter them. But it's 2021, not 1921.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 18, 2021 18:37:37 GMT
I respectfully disagree, Harper really does deserve it this year (the nonsense in this thread notwithstanding). I know people hate Harper, but he led the league in doubles, SLG, OPS and OPS+, all with a not-great lineup around him. Moreover, he single-handedly carried the Phillies to a near-playoff berth and that's meaningful. Juan Soto, to me is the best hitter in the game today and there's no denying how incredible he is. He put up a .465 OBP which is amazing, but honestly, he basically spent the entire season getting intentionally unintentionally walked, if that makes sense (last year too). You can probably count the fastballs he saw on two hands. Of course, it'll be funny if Soto (or anyone else) wins the award for obvious reasons, but objectively for me, and all things being equal, it should be Harper. OH I don't hate Harper, my posts regarding all things Philly are purely facetious, for obvious reasons (also because there's often not a lot of serious discussion around here). My biggest gripe with Harper (and Rendon for that matter) us leaving D.C., I'd love seeing Soto and Harper playing the corner OF spots, racking uo BB's, HR, 2B's, Runs and RBI while Rendon punishes the lefties brought in to counter them. But it's 2021, not 1921. I'm really curious as to what the Nationals will do with Soto; he's signed through next year, then has 2 years of arbitration eligibility left before hitting free agency in 2025. He's a generational talent, a perennial MVP caliber player (not unlike Harper or Turner, but for my money, better). They HAVE to give him a ridiculous extension to cover his free agent years and every day they waste, is another 0 added on. I bet they ink him to that extension during spring training after the CBA situation gets cleared up (assuming it does). They did let Harper walk, in part, because they had Soto. If I'm the Nationals, I see the Braves as a contender for the next few years and the Marlins on the upswing. The Mets are the Mets and the Phillies are good, but aren't set up for long term success the way the Braves and Marlins are. That means within a year or two, they can get back to relevance, especially given that they did bring back a quality battery in Josiah Gray and Keibert Ruiz, the Dodgers top 2 prospects. So at least they have a young foundation to build around. It's insane that Juan Soto is only 23 years old.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 18, 2021 19:57:17 GMT
In a little over 3 short hours
Brycie will be officially named the best player in the galaxy
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 18, 2021 23:20:20 GMT
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 18, 2021 23:22:58 GMT
And there it is. Yes indeed. I like it. I do. The Best Player in the Galaxy. And he plays in my own backyard. Do you folks know that Brycie was the 18th highest player in baseball this year? What a steal for the Best! And we've got him locked up for another 10 years folks. Do you know that after Brycie turns 35 - his salary starts to decrease and the final 3 years of his contract we're only paying him $23.5 mil? What a steal! For the best player in baseball! #1 Baby! EAT IT!
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 18, 2021 23:33:30 GMT
Do you folks know that Brycie was the 18th highest player in baseball this year? What a steal for the Best! What was he smoking?
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 19, 2021 0:31:13 GMT
Shohei 30 for 30.
All 30 1st place votes.
Harper 17 - He also had a 5th, a 4th, and two 3rds Soto 6 Brandon Crawford 4 Tatis Jr. 2 Trea Turner 1
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Post by klawrencio79 on Nov 19, 2021 0:34:10 GMT
Shohei 30 for 30. All 30 1st place votes. Harper 17 - He also had a 5th, a 4th, and two 3rds Soto 6 Crawford 4 Tatis Jr. 2 Trea Turner 1 JP Crawford!!
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Nov 19, 2021 1:09:23 GMT
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Post by tristramshandy on Nov 19, 2021 1:25:29 GMT
By WAR, choosing Harper is a travesty.
Juan Soto - 7.0 Fernando Tatis Jr - 6.6 Tyler O'Neill - 6.3 Paul Goldschmidt - 6.2 Austin Riley - 6.1 Brandon Crawford - 6.1 Bryan Reynolds - 6.0 Bryce Harper -5.9
Zack Wheeler and Walker Buehler had higher WARs too.
So the MVP was given to the 10th best player in the National League?
So Harper is the Crash of MVPs?
Oof - - this isn't going to age well.
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Post by NJtoTX on Nov 19, 2021 2:42:24 GMT
By WAR, choosing Harper is a travesty. Juan Soto - 7.0 Fernando Tatis Jr - 6.6 Tyler O'Neill - 6.3 Paul Goldschmidt - 6.2 Austin Riley - 6.1 Brandon Crawford - 6.1 Bryan Reynolds - 6.0 Bryce Harper -5.9 Zack Wheeler and Walker Buehler had higher WARs too. So the MVP was given to the 10th best player in the National League? So Harper is the Crash of MVPs? Oof - - this isn't going to age well. Missed 22 games.
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Post by tristramshandy on Nov 19, 2021 4:30:11 GMT
By WAR, choosing Harper is a travesty. Juan Soto - 7.0 Fernando Tatis Jr - 6.6 Tyler O'Neill - 6.3 Paul Goldschmidt - 6.2 Austin Riley - 6.1 Brandon Crawford - 6.1 Bryan Reynolds - 6.0 Bryce Harper -5.9 Zack Wheeler and Walker Buehler had higher WARs too. So the MVP was given to the 10th best player in the National League? So Harper is the Crash of MVPs? Oof - - this isn't going to age well. Missed 22 games. Tatis missed 31 . . . and beat Harper by .7 WAR. Real MVP!
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 19, 2021 4:32:47 GMT
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 19, 2021 8:41:29 GMT
Do you folks know that Brycie was the 18th highest player in baseball this year? What a steal for the Best! What was he smoking? That's just the type of guy Brycie is.
An everyday guy. He's not money hungry like the players on your guys teams.
He cares about the game first and foremost
13 years and $330 million will do just fine
By being so unselfish - it will allow us to sign the Top Free Agents in the game this Hot Stove Season - like his best friend Kris Bryant.
Part of Brycie's job which I've stated in the past is to attract the upper echelon players in the league.
Now that he's got yet another MVP under his belt and he's under 30 years old - well - the floodgates have opened.
We're typically at the top of the league when it comes to spending money - and what player wouldn't want to play with the best player in baseball?
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 19, 2021 8:47:59 GMT
Fun Brycie Facts and then I'll let this thread die a slow death - Compared to one of my heroes Barry Bonds - Per MLB Insider Todd Zolecki - 'Bryce Harper just got his 100th walk. He is the fourth outfielder in baseball history to have 100 runs, 100 walks, 40 doubles and 35 home runs in a season: Babe Ruth (1921, 1923), Barry Bonds (1998) and Stan Musial (1949).'Another fun Brycie Fact when it comes to one of my heroes Barry Bonds - Per MLB Network - Brycie is only the 5th player in MLB History to win an MVP on 2 different teams - the others being Bonds, AROD (another hero of mine), and 2 guys named Frank Robinson and Jimmie Foxx (whoever the hell they are - I've only heard of Foxx by old time locals spinning yarns in bars because he played for the Philly A's and Phils back in like 1892 - other than that I know nothing about him - but it just goes to show how elite and special Brycie is)
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 19, 2021 12:45:30 GMT
That's just the type of guy Brycie is.
An everyday guy. He's not money hungry like the players on your guys teams.
You said he was the 18th highest player in the league.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Nov 20, 2021 10:22:29 GMT
This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in my life
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Post by Shane Falco on Nov 20, 2021 12:27:16 GMT
Bad MVP year. Reminds me of Sosa or Arod winning. The top 3 finalists all having their teams miss the playoffs. Bad year. Will anyone remember this Harper year? Disappointing.
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Post by Shane Falco on Nov 20, 2021 12:30:04 GMT
Meanwhile I will bask in the glow of this Atlanta World Series Championship.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Dec 1, 2021 21:00:24 GMT
Knebel to play with Brycie
Per Jon Heyman -
$10 mil - 1 year
I want Bryant and Castellanos next
Rumors we're in on Schwarber.....
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