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Post by Xeliou66 on Oct 18, 2021 0:11:36 GMT
No call on the Brown's facemask pull on Pats #15 on 3rd and 3 incompletion was huge. Forced to punt. The refs were godawful. Looks for a 7-10 season for the Pats. (Jets, Falcons, Colts, Jaguars and Dolphins). Dolphins away with Tua, a newly confident Colts, even the Jaguars win now. And the Texans almost got us. So these five wins are not guaranteed. But let say we manage an upset victory...7-10. That's a regress to last year despite all the spending. We got Hightower and Co. back (but traded Gilmore). And Mac Jones is not the problem. I hope Kraft liberates us from Belichick. I doubt the Pats will get to 7 wins. I think right now the Colts, Falcons and maybe the Dolphins would be favored over them. The Pats just aren’t that good on either side of the ball, they put up good fights and they could pull off an upset but they don’t have a lot of talent.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 18, 2021 0:13:53 GMT
No call on the Brown's facemask pull on Pats #15 on 3rd and 3 incompletion was huge. Forced to punt. The refs were godawful. Looks for a 7-10 season for the Pats. (Jets, Falcons, Colts, Jaguars and Dolphins). Dolphins away with Tua, a newly confident Colts, even the Jaguars win now. And the Texans almost got us. So these five wins are not guaranteed. But let say we manage an upset victory...7-10. That's a regress to last year despite all the spending. We got Hightower and Co. back (but traded Gilmore). And Mac Jones is not the problem. I hope Kraft liberates us from Belichick. 7-10 won't be enough to get rid of BB. We're stuck with him unless we finish 4-12 or worse. Even then I think Kraft gives him one more year. I don't think the Colts game in Indy is a gimme. And we struggled in Miami with the GOAT, so nothing is guaranteed down there. But the Jags, Jets and Falcons are must wins.
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Post by bluerisk on Oct 18, 2021 0:19:34 GMT
No call on the Brown's facemask pull on Pats #15 on 3rd and 3 incompletion was huge. Forced to punt. Pokes also got away with like 9 holds before finally getting called for one on that late drive in the 4th. But the refs also took away an obvious TD from the Cowboys in the 1st half, so it all evens out in the end. I don't blame refs for losses, Agholor would've dropped it anyway. 0-4 at home this season. Who besides me saw that coming? Season's far from over though. We can start a new win streak against the Jets next week and take it from there. One game at a time. Jets ok, but they don't count save for the W, but the Chargers, Panthers and Browns...maybe the Panthers (with our Gilmore). 9-8 or 8-9, that was my prediction at the beginning of the season, but now I'm rather expecting a 7-10 or worse. Without the many flags (no matter if bad calls by the refs, or the stupidity or lack of discipline on side of the Cowboys), we had clearly lost inmo. 115 yards in penalties. Look at the stats: 32 first downs (vs. 17). Nearly 600 yards vs. our 300+. They were constantly shooting themselves in the foot and thus keeping us alive. That's how I see it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 18, 2021 0:22:30 GMT
The refs were godawful. Looks for a 7-10 season for the Pats. (Jets, Falcons, Colts, Jaguars and Dolphins). Dolphins away with Tua, a newly confident Colts, even the Jaguars win now. And the Texans almost got us. So these five wins are not guaranteed. But let say we manage an upset victory...7-10. That's a regress to last year despite all the spending. We got Hightower and Co. back (but traded Gilmore). And Mac Jones is not the problem. I hope Kraft liberates us from Belichick. I doubt the Pats will get to 7 wins. I think right now the Colts, Falcons and maybe the Dolphins would be favored over them. The Pats just aren’t that good on either side of the ball, they put up good fights and they could pull off an upset but they don’t have a lot of talent. I think they have the talent (and this isn't a shot at Billychuck for once), they just need to put together a complete game. They looked great on D at times in this game, and that Cowboys team is stacked. They only needed one more stop. Mac Jones was out of this world until that one critical mistake late, and he bounced back from it immediately. The running game came alive on that 4th quarter drive, if they can sustain that throughout a game much less the season (which is what we expected coming into the season), they'll be able to control the tempo of the game and really limit the scoring opportunities for the opponents by keeping them off the field. Sustain momentum on both sides of the ball (and no bonehead special teams miscues). They've been in all of these games. Maybe they're just one of those teams that loses close games all year long, time will tell. If they are, sooner or later we have to start blaming the coach, right?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 18, 2021 0:26:19 GMT
Pokes also got away with like 9 holds before finally getting called for one on that late drive in the 4th. But the refs also took away an obvious TD from the Cowboys in the 1st half, so it all evens out in the end. I don't blame refs for losses, Agholor would've dropped it anyway. 0-4 at home this season. Who besides me saw that coming? Season's far from over though. We can start a new win streak against the Jets next week and take it from there. One game at a time. Jets ok, but they don't count save for the W, but the Chargers, Panthers and Browns...maybe the Panthers (with our Gilmore). 9-8 or 8-9, that was my prediction at the beginning of the season, but now I'm rather expecting a 7-10 or worse. Without the many flags (no matter if bad calls by the refs, or the stupidity or lack of discipline on side of the Cowboys), we had clearly lost inmo. 115 yards in penalties. Look at the stats: 32 first downs (vs. 17). Nearly 600 yards vs. our 300+. They were constantly shooting themselves in the foot and thus keeping us alive. That's how I see it. The stats don't lie, and yet we were still in the game. All of our losses have come down to critical mistakes or lack of execution late. That also reflects poorly on BB, but it isn't like the team is flat out atrocious. They compete, you have to at least give them that. I think we can beat the Browns in Foxborough. Panthers is a coin toss as of now.
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Post by bluerisk on Oct 18, 2021 0:33:53 GMT
The refs were godawful. Looks for a 7-10 season for the Pats. (Jets, Falcons, Colts, Jaguars and Dolphins). Dolphins away with Tua, a newly confident Colts, even the Jaguars win now. And the Texans almost got us. So these five wins are not guaranteed. But let say we manage an upset victory...7-10. That's a regress to last year despite all the spending. We got Hightower and Co. back (but traded Gilmore). And Mac Jones is not the problem. I hope Kraft liberates us from Belichick. 7-10 won't be enough to get rid of BB. We're stuck with him unless we finish 4-12 or worse. Even then I think Kraft gives him one more year. I don't think the Colts game in Indy is a gimme. And we struggled in Miami with the GOAT, so nothing is guaranteed down there. But the Jags, Jets and Falcons are must wins. Because Brady had no weapons left (=> 2019). Julian was washed up since he was (or better had to be) overused. 2019: first game against Miami was a demonstration because everyone was healthy, in the last game of the season against Miami we were de facto without weapons and lost. And the defense might win championships, but one still needs to score. But like I said: Dolphins with Tua, the Colts with a new confidence...we might lose there, but also land one or two upset victories. 7-10, 8-9 max. My hope is that Kraft and the team will get tired of his character. Belichick got away with a lot because he was successful, and that might change. I this guy is leading us nowhere. He spent all our cap space, got the best and most ready Rookie QB as it seems, and he got all his opt out back. But we even struggle against the hopeless Texans. And we lost Gilmore because we couldn't pay him (=> cap space). Success was keeping a lot together, but Belichicks attitude, his way of taking all fun away, and the lack of success might lead to some exodus, and it will be harder to get good players - even if we could pay them. Playing with no hope of success und under a "no fun"-regime of Belichick. This man is becoming more and more a burden. Brady was the one factor that kept all together.
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Post by bluerisk on Oct 18, 2021 0:43:19 GMT
The refs were godawful. Looks for a 7-10 season for the Pats. (Jets, Falcons, Colts, Jaguars and Dolphins). Dolphins away with Tua, a newly confident Colts, even the Jaguars win now. And the Texans almost got us. So these five wins are not guaranteed. But let say we manage an upset victory...7-10. That's a regress to last year despite all the spending. We got Hightower and Co. back (but traded Gilmore). And Mac Jones is not the problem. I hope Kraft liberates us from Belichick. I doubt the Pats will get to 7 wins. I think right now the Colts, Falcons and maybe the Dolphins would be favored over them. The Pats just aren’t that good on either side of the ball, they put up good fights and they could pull off an upset but they don’t have a lot of talent. Hm...for that the games with the Bucs and Cowboys were too close imho. But ok, the flags and the weather(Bucs) were of great help. But the Falcons have also a great talent to shot themselves in the foot. The Colts...like I said, could go wrong for us if they have found a new confidence. And the Dolphins were beaten by the Jaguars. We are not a trash fire, but we are going nowhere. Even if Jones get better, we will hardly become a playoff contender, save for a Super Bowl contender. And our cap space is burned, what is why we had to cut Gilmore (or later Belichick traded him - some say out of pure spite against Brady). I have no problem with some losing season, with a rebuilt, but I need the confidence that it is leading somewhere, and I have no trust in Belichick. I never like him as human being, but now he has also become inacceptable as coach.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 18, 2021 0:45:59 GMT
No call on the Brown's facemask pull on Pats #15 on 3rd and 3 incompletion was huge. Forced to punt. Pokes also got away with like 9 holds before finally getting called for one on that late drive in the 4th. But the refs also took away an obvious TD from the Cowboys in the 1st half, so it all evens out in the end. I don't blame refs for losses, Agholor would've dropped it anyway. 0-4 at home this season. Who besides me saw that coming? Season's far from over though. We can start a new win streak against the Jets next week and take it from there. One game at a time. When was the last time the Patriots had 4 home losses?
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 18, 2021 0:46:47 GMT
Not much offense in Pittsburgh.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 18, 2021 0:56:09 GMT
7-10 won't be enough to get rid of BB. We're stuck with him unless we finish 4-12 or worse. Even then I think Kraft gives him one more year. I don't think the Colts game in Indy is a gimme. And we struggled in Miami with the GOAT, so nothing is guaranteed down there. But the Jags, Jets and Falcons are must wins. Because Brady had no weapons left (=> 2019). Julian was washed up since he was (or better had to be) overused. 2019: first game against Miami was a demonstration because everyone was healthy, in the last game of the season against Miami we were de facto without weapons and lost. And the defense might win championships, but one still needs to score. But like I said: Dolphins with Tua, the Colts with a new confidence...we might lose there, but also land one or two upset victories. 7-10, 8-9 max. My hope is that Kraft and the team will get tired of his character. Belichick got away with a lot because he was successful, and that might change. I this guy is leading us nowhere. He spent all our cap space, got the best and most ready Rookie QB as it seems, and he got all his opt out back. But we even struggle against the hopeless Texans. And we lost Gilmore because we couldn't pay him (=> cap space). Success was keeping a lot together, but Belichicks attitude, his way of taking all fun away, and the lack of success might lead to some exodus, and it will be harder to get good players - even if we could pay them. Playing with no hope of success und under a "no fun"-regime of Belichick. This man is becoming more and more a burden. Brady was the one factor that kept all together. No argument here. Yeah the most damning thing about this season is that we spent $232M in free agency and we're 0-4 at home. Talk about pissing your money away. The Texans game was as embarrassing as a win can possibly be. And if we're being honest, McCarthy not going for it on 4th and 1 twice in the 4th quarter of this game is what kept the Pats in it. Regarding the 2019 season finale, that was 100% Belichick. The offense scored 24 points, including the go ahead TD with less than 4:00 remaining. Belichick's garbage defense let a 4-11 team march down the field and score a TD to win it-- in Foxborough no less. But in general for whatever reason we historically struggled in Miami, even with Brady. Hell one year we were 14-2 and one of those losses was to a putrid Dolphins team in Miami. So nothing is a given down there. It's clear Belichick is flailing now, all that money and nothing to show for it. His defense can't get stops when they need to (haven't been able to in well over a decade now), and his offense can't move the ball when they need to. He isn't going to change, the only question is how long do the fans have to suffer?
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Post by Xeliou66 on Oct 18, 2021 1:49:39 GMT
Steelers lead the Seahawks 14-0 at halftime. This is exactly how I expected this game to go, the Seahawks offense can’t do anything without Wilson and the Steelers are playing a solid game all around.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 18, 2021 2:47:10 GMT
Steelers lead the Seahawks 14-0 at halftime. This is exactly how I expected this game to go, the Seahawks offense can’t do anything without Wilson and the Steelers are playing a solid game all around. Seahawks with 2 TDs to pull within 17-14 and are down in the red zone again.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 18, 2021 2:49:28 GMT
Huge sack on Geno, Seahawks FG ries it at 17.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 18, 2021 2:54:27 GMT
Huge sack on Geno, Seahawks FG ries it at 17. Ruh-roh!
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 18, 2021 2:57:08 GMT
Looks like Ben's incomplete will be ruled a fumble.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 18, 2021 2:58:02 GMT
Huge sack on Geno, Seahawks FG ries it at 17. Ruh-roh! Get used to it. My vision has gotten much worse.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Oct 18, 2021 3:35:37 GMT
Boswell puts the Steelers ahead 20-17 with 1:30 left.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Oct 18, 2021 3:42:33 GMT
Looked like there was 0:01 on the clock to me.
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Post by hehatesshe on Oct 18, 2021 3:43:34 GMT
What is this bullshit.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Oct 18, 2021 3:46:44 GMT
Don't think I've ever seen Mike Tomlin so pissed.
Why did they spike it?
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