basmaticathury
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Post by basmaticathury on Oct 20, 2021 22:58:50 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 20, 2021 23:23:27 GMT
This guy sounds like he might need to see a therapist.
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Post by onethreetwo on Oct 20, 2021 23:39:05 GMT
This guy sounds like he might need to see a therapist. Yeah this is a lot of rage for something so little. He definitely needs some help. |
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 20, 2021 23:45:27 GMT
Oh no, what are they going to do without him…
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 20, 2021 23:53:42 GMT
This guy sounds like he might need to see a therapist. Yeah this is a lot of rage for something so little. He definitely needs some help. It honestly sounds like these people are forcing themselves to get angry. Superman is an illegal immigrant anyway, and one of his creators was Canadian.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 21, 2021 3:10:06 GMT
I'm sure the thing his grandfather was thinking about while bleeding out on the beach of Normandy was "This is so comic book characters can say patriotic things and fuck chicks".
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Post by Lux on Oct 21, 2021 9:36:17 GMT
I'm sure the thing his grandfather was thinking about while bleeding out on the beach of Normandy was "This is so comic book characters can say patriotic things and fuck chicks". I agree that he's a bit over the top but you actually have a lot in common with him with both of your bad takes in regards to your reply to this topic. He's obviously talking about America as a whole and not just what Wonder Woman says in her sleep. |
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 21, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Oh no, what are they going to do without him… They'll painting Sup's leotards orange. I wasn’t even aware “colourist” was a job… |
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Post by Stammerhead on Oct 21, 2021 14:23:51 GMT
And he’s taking his pencils with him.  |
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 21, 2021 16:12:30 GMT
I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, I don't see anything wrong with changing Superman's slogan to be more encompassive of the entire world. He is, after all, supposed to be a superhero that looks out over the entire Earth and not just the US. So changing his slogan to "a better tomorrow" absolutely makes sense and a good move.
However, a part of me is also imagining what it would be like if some icon from my native culture was changed up just so other people not from my culture can feel better about themselves. Superman is an American creation and part of American culture. I'm not American, so I have no issues at all with DC changing Superman's slogan to be less American and more generalized. But I can see why making Superman less American-ish would upset some Americans.
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Post by sostie on Oct 21, 2021 20:16:39 GMT
However, a part of me is also imagining what it would be like if some icon from my native culture was changed up just so other people not from my culture can feel better about themselves. But it was already changed. Supe's creators had written the slogan as just "truth and justice". "The America Way" was added to the radio show in the 40s and TV show in the 50s to drum support for the fights against Nazi's and Communist's. It's a case of people complaining about the phrase going back to it's original form.
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Post by Skaathar on Oct 21, 2021 21:00:47 GMT
However, a part of me is also imagining what it would be like if some icon from my native culture was changed up just so other people not from my culture can feel better about themselves. But it was already changed. Supe's creators had written the slogan as just "truth and justice". "The America Way" was added to the radio show in the 40s and TV show in the 50s to drum support for the fights against Nazi's and Communist's. It's a case of people complaining about the phrase going back to it's original form. Superman as we know him first came out in 1938 if Wikipedia is to be believed. If you're right that they added "The American Way" as his slogan in the 40's, then that means that slogan has been part of nearly the entire history of the character. That's more than enough time for it to have become embedded in American culture even if it was originally worded differently. All I'm saying is, there are people who grew up with Superman (and his slogan) as part of their culture and something they were proud of. I don't want to insensitively shut them down when they complain about this just because I can't relate.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 21, 2021 23:33:44 GMT
But it was already changed. Supe's creators had written the slogan as just "truth and justice". "The America Way" was added to the radio show in the 40s and TV show in the 50s to drum support for the fights against Nazi's and Communist's. It's a case of people complaining about the phrase going back to it's original form. Superman as we know him first came out in 1938 if Wikipedia is to be believed. If you're right that they added "The American Way" as his slogan in the 40's, then that means that slogan has been part of nearly the entire history of the character. That's more than enough time for it to have become embedded in American culture even if it was originally worded differently. All I'm saying is, there are people who grew up with Superman (and his slogan) as part of their culture and something they were proud of. I don't want to insensitively shut them down when they complain about this just because I can't relate. That's how I feel when someone tries to justify Batman killing. At this point, that's just not who Batman is. I get the idea of dropping the "American way' part, because Superman isn't the type to dismantle a Republic to install dictators for easier oil access. On the other hand, Superman is meant to represent the positives of America, particularly a foreign immigrant who comes to America to succeed. Ironically, that seems like the kinda thing that'd trigger this colorist who only cares about the American way as it relates to him, but Superman dropping the line is just letting assholes like the colorist define what the American way is. |
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Oct 21, 2021 23:55:33 GMT
This guy sounds like he might need to see a therapist. Sounds to me like he's a bonafide I'm-not-a-x, with the "x" standing in for any of a number various bigotries, "racist", "sexist", "homophobe", etc. You can often find these people doing things like spouting racist invective before declaring, "I'm not a racist!". |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 22, 2021 0:32:20 GMT
Superman as we know him first came out in 1938 if Wikipedia is to be believed. If you're right that they added "The American Way" as his slogan in the 40's, then that means that slogan has been part of nearly the entire history of the character. That's more than enough time for it to have become embedded in American culture even if it was originally worded differently. All I'm saying is, there are people who grew up with Superman (and his slogan) as part of their culture and something they were proud of. I don't want to insensitively shut them down when they complain about this just because I can't relate. That's how I feel when someone tries to justify Batman killing. At this point, that's just not who Batman is. I get the idea of dropping the "American way' part, because Superman isn't the type to dismantle a Republic to install dictators for easier oil access. On the other hand, Superman is meant to represent the positives of America, particularly a foreign immigrant who comes to America to succeed. Ironically, that seems like the kinda thing that'd trigger this colorist who only cares about the American way as it relates to him, but Superman dropping the line is just letting assholes like the colorist define what the American way is. I wouldn’t compare “the American way” to Batman’s no-kill policy. The former was never something that the creators envisioned for the character. It was just something that the people who adapted the character came up with during a war that ended over 70 years ago. The term has long since become obsolete for the character. Besides, Joe Shuster was a Canadian immigrant who modeled Metropolis off Toronto.
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Post by Lux on Oct 22, 2021 20:56:45 GMT
Superman as we know him first came out in 1938 if Wikipedia is to be believed. If you're right that they added "The American Way" as his slogan in the 40's, then that means that slogan has been part of nearly the entire history of the character. That's more than enough time for it to have become embedded in American culture even if it was originally worded differently. All I'm saying is, there are people who grew up with Superman (and his slogan) as part of their culture and something they were proud of. I don't want to insensitively shut them down when they complain about this just because I can't relate. That's how I feel when someone tries to justify Batman killing. At this point, that's just not who Batman is. I get the idea of dropping the "American way' part, because Superman isn't the type to dismantle a Republic to install dictators for easier oil access. On the other hand, Superman is meant to represent the positives of America, particularly a foreign immigrant who comes to America to succeed. Ironically, that seems like the kinda thing that'd trigger this colorist who only cares about the American way as it relates to him, but Superman dropping the line is just letting assholes like the colorist define what the American way is. How is that not who Batman is? He will kill if he has to. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 22, 2021 22:16:50 GMT
That's how I feel when someone tries to justify Batman killing. At this point, that's just not who Batman is. I get the idea of dropping the "American way' part, because Superman isn't the type to dismantle a Republic to install dictators for easier oil access. On the other hand, Superman is meant to represent the positives of America, particularly a foreign immigrant who comes to America to succeed. Ironically, that seems like the kinda thing that'd trigger this colorist who only cares about the American way as it relates to him, but Superman dropping the line is just letting assholes like the colorist define what the American way is. I wouldn’t compare “the American way” to Batman’s no-kill policy. The former was never something that the creators envisioned for the character. It was just something that the people who adapted the character came up with during a war that ended over 70 years ago. The term has long since become obsolete for the character. Besides, Joe Shuster was a Canadian immigrant who modeled Metropolis off Toronto. Not sure I agree. The line is embedded in pop culture, far more so than Batman's no kill rule. The last theatrically released Superman movie even references the line. If the line is obsolete, why not quietly drop the whole thing instead of changing it? Metropolis was modeled after Toronto only after plans to set Superman in Cleveland fell through, but it's always been an American city. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 24, 2021 0:07:21 GMT
Said colorist Gabriel Eltaeb has uploaded this video to their YouTube channel -
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 24, 2021 0:11:27 GMT
This guy sounds like he might need to see a therapist. He is not the first person who has left DC over their creative and business decisions over the years, some of which are rooted in political bias. Apparently according to rumors DC will not hire anyone who associates themselves or takes part in the ComicsGate movement, which is independent comic book production that is largely against mainstream publication and distribution practices.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 24, 2021 0:12:49 GMT
This guy sounds like he might need to see a therapist. Yeah this is a lot of rage for something so little. He definitely needs some help. Little to you, not for him, hence why he's decided to leave the company. Based on his statements this has been bubbling up for a long time now.
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