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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2021 21:27:06 GMT
I have a kid i counsel who told me, “I was born a female, but I am a man inside. I prefer the pronoun “they” or “them” but I feel like I’m a gay man because I’m attracted to men.”
Now, is there a specific term for this?
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Post by Ass_E9 on Oct 21, 2021 22:31:02 GMT
And if they fully transition, "gay man"?
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Post by mystery on Oct 22, 2021 1:24:20 GMT
I would call them a tomboy.
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Post by onethreetwo on Oct 22, 2021 1:31:01 GMT
Where do you counsel kids?
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Post by Spitfire926f on Oct 22, 2021 3:06:58 GMT
I have a kid i counsel who told me, “I was born a female, but I am a man inside. I prefer the pronoun “they” or “them” but I feel like I’m a gay man because I’m attracted to men.” Now, is there a specific term for this? I'd get the kid's parents involved and maybe refer her to a specialist that deals with this kind of thing specifically in kids. It's a volatile time at that age. Might be legit, might be a phase, but that's what a gender dysphoria specialist can help work out. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2021 4:37:00 GMT
I have a kid i counsel who told me, “I was born a female, but I am a man inside. I prefer the pronoun “they” or “them” but I feel like I’m a gay man because I’m attracted to men.” Now, is there a specific term for this? Confused is the word you're looking for.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 22, 2021 14:07:03 GMT
I have a kid i counsel who told me, “I was born a female, but I am a man inside. I prefer the pronoun “they” or “them” but I feel like I’m a gay man because I’m attracted to men.” Now, is there a specific term for this? Confused is the word you're looking for. That implies kids don't know who they are. Children are far more perceptive than we give them credit for. Many people who've come out knew who they were as far back as childhood.
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Post by Marv on Oct 22, 2021 23:41:47 GMT
Kind of adding to the question here but…
Do other people have like a check list in their head on what it means to be a man or a woman? I can’t recall ever really having this. As a man who thinks he’s a man and has no issue on the matter…I just have a hard time understanding what this is…like….I have a lot of traits that define me…but I wouldn’t catalog any of those traits as unique or even particular to men in general. Physically people are what they are but mentally I don’t see any reason to put walls up around what constitutes a man or a woman.
Just to be clear I don’t have any issue with a person born a man saying they identify as a woman or whatever…I just don’t understand the lines in the sand outside the obvious physical differences like genitalia.
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Post by Admin on Oct 23, 2021 0:32:33 GMT
Confused is the word you're looking for. That implies kids don't know who they are. Children are far more perceptive than we give them credit for. Many people who've come out knew who they were as far back as childhood. Here's a girl who thinks she's a homosexual boy. Surely you aren't saying she isn't confused? It might be best to wait until we start talking about what's confusing her before we argue.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 23, 2021 5:46:55 GMT
Attention-seeking behavior? When I started Jr High I went by a fake name for a whole year. I have no idea why. My kids went through some weird phases. If you take it seriously, you feed the delusion.
I would be genuinely curious what makes her think she's a man ... she's never been a man, so how would she know what that feels like? I don't have a clue what it feels like to be a woman.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 18:41:12 GMT
Gender and sexuality are separate things.
Also do refer them to someone else as someone else suggested. They can prolly use the help of a specialist ....you dont seem educated on these issues
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 25, 2021 13:22:23 GMT
That implies kids don't know who they are. Children are far more perceptive than we give them credit for. Many people who've come out knew who they were as far back as childhood. Here's a girl who thinks she's a homosexual boy. Surely you aren't saying she isn't confused? It might be best to wait until we start talking about what's confusing her before we argue. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. The point is we can't be immediately dismissive of them. I'm saying you can't decide she's confused without knowing her.
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Post by Admin on Oct 25, 2021 23:47:20 GMT
Here's a girl who thinks she's a homosexual boy. Surely you aren't saying she isn't confused? It might be best to wait until we start talking about what's confusing her before we argue. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. The point is we can't be immediately dismissive of them. I'm saying you can't decide she's confused without knowing her. I'm not being dismissive; I'm being observant. Perhaps "deluded" is a better word.
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Post by Sarge on Oct 26, 2021 5:23:42 GMT
Gender and sexuality are separate things.
Maybe, I think you meant gender and sex, which are synonyms and that's why they are used interchangeably on forms. Keep in mind the same specialities who claim gender is fluid, are the same specialities that brought us recovered memories, which was all the rage in the 80s. It destroyed families, and individuals went to prison for years, sometimes decades, for nothing. That reminder is no small thing because most of society bought into recovered memories, psychologists, law enforcement, the courts, counselors, the public, Hollywood, most people accepted that it was a real thing. (it's not) And gender fluidity is also not a real thing. The idea spawned from gender role studies where gender role was sometimes shortened to "gender," and then later the sexual aspects were emphasized as it was adopted by the gay community. One of the world's leading biologists will tell you it's not a real thing. Buying into these absurd concepts is a product of being blasé, a well-studied phenomenon where people become overstimulated and simultaneously bored, which can lead to thrill seeking or adoption of extreme ideas. Being gender-fluid is a way for people to express individuality in a world where is it increasingly more difficult to be unique. Once it is seen as mainstream, it will no longer be an avenue toward individuality and something else will take its place.
*Merriam Webster Definition of blasé
1 : apathetic to pleasure or excitement as a result of excessive indulgence or enjoyment
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 26, 2021 13:10:57 GMT
Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. The point is we can't be immediately dismissive of them. I'm saying you can't decide she's confused without knowing her. I'm not being dismissive; I'm being observant. Perhaps "deluded" is a better word. Saying someone is confused or deluded without knowing them is being dismissive. You can't be observant of someone you've never met, seen, nor studied. That goes against the very definition of the word. Deluded is not a better word either because you don't know the kid. She may in fact be right about herself.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 26, 2021 13:16:25 GMT
Medical science used to think a woman's uterus wandered around her body. We learn and improve. As do all sciences.
There are scientists who think the world is flat. Being in an expert in one field does not make you an expert in all the fields. A biologist does not study gender.
It'd be more believable if it weren't for the fact gender fluidity had been going on for hundreds of years long before our increasingly overstimulated modern world developed. It'd be like saying being gay is a product of celebrities coming out.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 26, 2021 20:08:47 GMT
I have a kid i counsel who told me, “I was born a female, but I am a man inside. I prefer the pronoun “they” or “them” but I feel like I’m a gay man because I’m attracted to men.” Now, is there a specific term for this? So this girl comes all the way back around to being attracted to boys when it all comes down to it. The kid is confused. Or the kid was messing with you. Or YOU'RE messing with us. Any of the above.
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Post by vegalyra on Oct 26, 2021 21:24:54 GMT
My favorite Trans is a Trans Am.
No Joke
I’m thinking that the girl was playing a joke. It sounds like something we would have pulled back in school even before it was really a thing. I’m a woman trapped in a mans body but I still love women.
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Post by Admin on Oct 26, 2021 22:37:34 GMT
I'm not being dismissive; I'm being observant. Perhaps "deluded" is a better word. Saying someone is confused or deluded without knowing them is being dismissive. You can't be observant of someone you've never met, seen, nor studied. That goes against the very definition of the word. Deluded is not a better word either because you don't know the kid. She may in fact be right about herself. I know enough to know she's a girl who thinks she's a boy. When someone is wrong, only the wicked would cheer them on.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Oct 26, 2021 22:41:55 GMT
Saying someone is confused or deluded without knowing them is being dismissive. You can't be observant of someone you've never met, seen, nor studied. That goes against the very definition of the word. Deluded is not a better word either because you don't know the kid. She may in fact be right about herself. I know enough to know she's a girl who thinks she's a boy. When someone is wrong, only the wicked would cheer them on. That's not enough to actually know her as a person. When someone judges a child without meeting them, that is truly wicked.
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