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Post by mikef6 on Oct 23, 2021 4:03:22 GMT
My local ABC affiliate station (very interested because the incident happened in state) reports that an assistant director in charge of props picked up one of three guns on a table, announced to the set the technical term “cold gun” meaning no live round, and then handed it to Baldwin.
BUT, they also reported that several crew members – camera men, electricians, lighting, etc – were on set that morning to collect equipment and pay because they had resigned over issues of accommodations, wages, and…..safety. One crew member told ABC that on another day there had been two accidental discharges of weapons on set. Complaints about safety had been ignored by production. They also said this was no ordinary film shoot because each day was chaotic, no organization.
So, no. Alec Baldwin will no doubt NOT be criminally charged but, as a producer, he may later be held responsible in civil court for failure to maintain safety standards.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 23, 2021 13:18:30 GMT
My local ABC affiliate station (very interested because the incident happened in state) reports that an assistant director in charge of props picked up one of three guns on a table, announced to the set the technical term “cold gun” meaning no live round, and then handed it to Baldwin. BUT, they also reported that several crew members – camera men, electricians, lighting, etc – were on set that morning to collect equipment and pay because they had resigned over issues of accommodations, wages, and…..safety. One crew member told ABC that on another day there had been two accidental discharges of weapons on set. Complaints about safety had been ignored by production. They also said this was no ordinary film shoot because each day was chaotic, no organization. So, no. Alec Baldwin will no doubt NOT be criminally charged but, as a producer, he may later be held responsible in civil court for failure to maintain safety standards. Oh boy. I wonder if IATSE will raise hell about this.
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Post by damngumby on Oct 23, 2021 16:06:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 16:24:55 GMT
^yikes, did not age well.
Look, I completely understand this was an accident but Baldwin ignored #1 fundamental rule of fun safety. Even though the guy is just a top to bottom miserable prick I feel for him and hope he can continue with life as a better and more mature person.
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Post by MCDemuth on Oct 23, 2021 16:59:54 GMT
The "Prop" Gun was supposed to have been empty...
How did it get loaded with Ammunition?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 17:02:37 GMT
The "Prop" Gun was supposed to have been empty... How did it get loaded with Ammunition? Why did they even have ammunition on set? This whole situation is so absurd and so mishandled with such incompetency it's hard not to get conspiratorial.
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Post by mikef6 on Oct 23, 2021 17:36:28 GMT
The cop INTENDED to kill that person. It was done deliberately and with malice. Baldwin's action was accidental and he is devastated by it. The cop, no doubt, shrugged it off knowing that cops are always cleared by the internal "investigation."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 19:21:47 GMT
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Post by damngumby on Oct 23, 2021 23:27:21 GMT
The cop INTENDED to kill that person. It was done deliberately and with malice. Baldwin's action was accidental and he is devastated by it. The cop, no doubt, shrugged it off knowing that cops are always cleared by the internal "investigation." Are you fucking retarded?
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Oct 23, 2021 23:41:42 GMT
How fuck1ng horrid for everyone involved. I have not adequate words.
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Post by mikef6 on Oct 24, 2021 0:37:06 GMT
The cop INTENDED to kill that person. It was done deliberately and with malice. Baldwin's action was accidental and he is devastated by it. The cop, no doubt, shrugged it off knowing that cops are always cleared by the internal "investigation." Are you fucking retarded? Are you really that naïve about cops? Or have you been watching too many of those CBS cop shows?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 24, 2021 2:50:48 GMT
Anyone who tries to use this incident as an opportunity to take shots at Alec Baldwin for hating Trump is a scumbag. A person died and Baldwin will have to live with that guilt for the rest of his life. If a person thinks that’s something worth celebrating or bragging about, then they just might be a sociopath.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 4:17:58 GMT
Anyone who tries to use this incident as an opportunity to take shots at Alec Baldwin for hating Trump is a scumbag. A person died and Baldwin will have to live with that guilt for the rest of his life. If a person thinks that’s something worth celebrating or bragging about, then they just might be a sociopath. Trump is an irrelevant person unless he decides a 2024 run, but until then, irrelevant. What is relevant is that Baldwin doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about when it comes to guns so he should shut the fuck up about it forever and always.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Oct 24, 2021 5:05:35 GMT
Are you fucking retarded? Are you really that naïve about cops? Or have you been watching too many of those CBS cop shows? He's using this woman's death as a partisan gotcha. Not naive, just a dick.
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Post by darkpast on Oct 24, 2021 5:14:54 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 24, 2021 16:11:37 GMT
Anyone who tries to use this incident as an opportunity to take shots at Alec Baldwin for hating Trump is a scumbag. A person died and Baldwin will have to live with that guilt for the rest of his life. If a person thinks that’s something worth celebrating or bragging about, then they just might be a sociopath. Trump is an irrelevant person unless he decides a 2024 run, but until then, irrelevant. What is relevant is that Baldwin doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about when it comes to guns so he should shut the fuck up about it forever and always. Baldwin wasn’t using a real gun. It was a prop that, for some reason, had a live round in it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 16:18:32 GMT
Trump is an irrelevant person unless he decides a 2024 run, but until then, irrelevant. What is relevant is that Baldwin doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about when it comes to guns so he should shut the fuck up about it forever and always. Baldwin wasn’t using a real gun. It was a prop that, for some reason, had a live round in it. you can’t put ammunition in a fake gun and have it operate as a deadly weapon. It was a real firearm. In Hollywood prop guns are often if not always real firearms.
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Post by Marv on Oct 24, 2021 16:52:12 GMT
Baldwin wasn’t using a real gun. It was a prop that, for some reason, had a live round in it. you can’t put ammunition in a fake gun and have it operate as a deadly weapon. It was a real firearm. In Hollywood prop guns are often if not always real firearms. Salmon J you sonofabich howareya?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 24, 2021 16:54:50 GMT
Baldwin wasn’t using a real gun. It was a prop that, for some reason, had a live round in it. you can’t put ammunition in a fake gun and have it operate as a deadly weapon. It was a real firearm. In Hollywood prop guns are often if not always real firearms. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59006905Baldwin was handed a gun and told what to do with it. Using this as a “gotcha” moment is downright disgusting. Also, that person whose video you linked to is a deranged Trump supporter who’s celebrating the fact that a person died, just because Baldwin was involved in it. You claiming that Trump is “irrelevant” is a load of BS, when you directly linked to someone who is celebrating this incident solely because Baldwin is a Democrat who hates Trump.
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Post by Lux on Oct 24, 2021 17:36:13 GMT
you can’t put ammunition in a fake gun and have it operate as a deadly weapon. It was a real firearm. In Hollywood prop guns are often if not always real firearms. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59006905Baldwin was handed a gun and told what to do with it. Using this as a “gotcha” moment is downright disgusting. Also, that person whose video you linked to is a deranged Trump supporter who’s celebrating the fact that a person died, just because Baldwin was involved in it. You claiming that Trump is “irrelevant” is a load of BS, when you directly linked to someone who is celebrating this incident solely because Baldwin is a Democrat who hates Trump. Alec was the executive producer of the movie not some recent acting school graduate thrown out of the back of a truck onto a film set. He shouldn't just accept any gun given to him without making sure it's safe to use first. Stop bringing Trump supporters into every available opportunity it's boring.
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